Since this has been in the news of late, what do you think about women becoming members of this prestigious Country Club? Is it just so men can act like boys here out of the sight of their wives, mothers, daughters, mistresses, etc. Seems to belong more to the 1912 era than 2012? I'll bet you could find some of these same kind of good ole boys on the ritzier decks of the Titanic.

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Since this has been in the news of late, what do you think about women becoming members of this prestigious Country Club? Is it just so men can act like boys here out of the sight of their wives, mothers, daughters, mistresses, etc. Seems to belong more to the 1912 era than 2012? I'll bet you could find some of these same kind of good ole boys on the ritzier decks of the Titanic.

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Why be so snarky? It is a tradition at Augusta and that's fine with me. I don't feel the slightest bit offended that I cannot play that course or be a member of that club! What is wrong with men have "Men Only" places? Good Lord!

Originally Posted by BaylorBear

Why be so snarky? It is a tradition at Augusta and that's fine with me. I don't feel the slightest bit offended that I cannot play that course or be a member of that club! What is wrong with men have "Men Only" places? Good Lord!

Have no idea what "snarky" means?

Some traditions send a message. This one does seem to be an old part of the glass ceiling. Wonder what Sarah Palin would say about this tradition at the Augusta National Golf Club?

It looks like the 300 or so Members of the Augusta National Golf Club are mainly people you would find on the Forbes list of the most powerful men in the US. That is more than just a bachelor party, a men's room, a men's gym, men's night out, etc.

I will bet she makes some kind of comment soon in one of her various Twitters.

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Have no idea what "snarky" means?

Some traditions send a message. This one does seem to be an old part of the glass ceiling. Wonder what Sarah Palin would say about this tradition at the Augusta National Golf Club?

It looks like the 300 or so Members of the Augusta National Golf Club are mainly people you would find on the Forbes list of the most powerful men in the US. That is more than just a bachelor party, a men's room, a men's gym, men's night out, etc.

I will bet she makes some kind of comment soon in one of her various Twitters.

Snarky is a nicer term for being snide and trying to something offensive in something that happens to be what it is. Does it really matter who is a member of Augusta? Since it's founding it has been a men only club. I am not defined as a woman by the places that men frequent that I cannot. It is their club and they should be allowed to run it the way they want. It is a lovely place and they pay for its upkeep. Leave them alone.

I don't really care what Sarah Palin, Barrack Obama or anyone else thinks about Augusta. I only know that I am not offended or demeaned in any way by its being male only. That's all. No offence was ever intended.

next we will have to take down all the signs that say no shirt, no shoes, no service!!!!

btk

Originally Posted by billethkid

next we will have to take down all the signs that say no shirt, no shoes, no service!!!!

btk

Does that mean all we have to wear is shirt and shoes?

Originally Posted by BaylorBear

Does it really matter who is a member of Augusta? Since it's founding it has been a men only club. I am not defined as a woman by the places that men frequent that I cannot. It is their club and they should be allowed to run it the way they want. It is a lovely place and they pay for its upkeep. Leave them alone.

Rotary Clubs used to be MEN ONLY. They saw the light over twenty years ago. God, I love intelligent people!

Xavier

TO THE ADMIN...why is this thread in Political ?????

People should be free to associate with whomever they choose. There are plenty of "Women's Clubs", "African-American Clubs", Gay Men's Clubs, Gay Women's clubs, Animal lover's clubs, etc., etc., etc.

Each one can be deemed discriminatory if you so choose to make an issue of it. People have a right to associate with like minded people. Even in all inclusive clubs or organizations, people segregate themselves into smaller groups of like minded people.

Women golfers have no limit of venues to create the same atmosphere for themselves as the men of Augusta have for themselves.

Originally Posted by Bucco

TO THE ADMIN...why is this thread in Political ?????

If Taltarzac is like me, I post just about every new thread to Political because of the extreme sensitivities of the "non-political" posters. If it's controversial for any reason......it's "political".

Originally Posted by Bucco

TO THE ADMIN...why is this thread in Political ?????

I thought that it would be moved or deleted if I put this issue any where else as it is bound to get political.

As to a point from Xavier--

It does look like it took a lawsuit to allow a CA Rotary Club to keep its 3 females members on the books. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotary_International

There has to be some very connected people (men) in the Augusta National Country Club to have kept it a men's only place for so long. You would have thought that would have been hit with various lawsuits by now or, at least, bad PR. http://blogs.findlaw.com/tarnished_t...icy-legal.html

I did not say successful lawsuits though given the Supreme Court's decision on allowing the Boy Scouts to discriminate against a gay scoutmaster based on the right of association and free speech. Boy Scouts v. Dale

First of all, I am not sure myself why it is in political. It is a subject of interest to all those that oppose men only clubs. It should have started out in either the Non-Villages Discussions or the Goof Sports discussions. If it becomes political then it can be moved by the admin people.

Tal, I have to ask - why is this such a problem with you? I agree with Richie. There are all kinds of special clubs which I cannot join nor do I want to join.

What is wrong with this one? Is this a pet peeve of yours?

Z

Originally Posted by zcaveman

First of all, I am not sure myself why it is in political. It is a subject of interest to all those that oppose men only clubs. It should have started out in either the Non-Villages Discussions or the Goof Sports discussions. If it becomes political then it can be moved by the admin people.

Tal, I have to ask - why is this such a problem with you? I agree with Richie. There are all kinds of special clubs which I cannot join nor do I want to join.

What is wrong with this one? Is this a pet peeve of yours?

Z

This is a very rich man's club mainly comprised of CEOs. Would like to see some females in it who belong there like the CEO of IBM. If and when we get a female President should she not be allowed to be a member of such a prestigious and highly influential club as the Augusta National Country Club?

Personally, I don't think that the government should be legislating who and how like-minded people can organize for their own personal purposes. What business is it of the government to regulate such things so long as no one is being hurt or negatively influenced by the actions of the few?

I believe that the members of Augusta National Golf Club, or any other club with membership limitations based on gender, religious preference, political leaning, hobby, or about any other criteria, should be able to establish their own criteria for membership...so long as their activities don't harm or negatively affect others in any way.

It seems to me that this conservative-leaning forum ought to be loudly defending the rights of the Augusta members. That doesn't seem to be the current bent, so I might ask, why not?

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

This is a very rich man's club mainly comprised of CEOs. Would like to see some females in it who belong there like the CEO of IBM. If and when we get a female President should she not be allowed to be a member of such a prestigious and highly influential club as the Augusta National Country Club?

Strange, when I quoted this note I got more than " Would like to see some females in it who belong there like the CEO of IBM." (I think you added this after the post)

Now you have made it political.

I did not realize that POTUS was a member of the Augusta County Club and I hope he/she has more important things to do that to attend four days of golf with his/her special security teams paid for by us. He/she can watch it on TV like the rest of us.

As for the IBM and any other company that appoints a female as CEO, I doubt that Augusta is at the top of their concerns.