I don't think it would be fair if they opened Augusta to rich, executive type women. What about women who aren't rich and couldn't afford to pay the membership fee? Or even men who want to join but can't afford the membership fee? That isn't fair. The government should make those rich country club people let everyone in who can't afford to join and force the big shots to teach me how to play golf as good as Lorena Ochoa.

Originally Posted by bkcunningham1

I don't think it would be fair if they opened Augusta to rich, executive type women. What about women who aren't rich and couldn't afford to pay the membership fee? Or even men who want to join but can't afford the membership fee? That isn't fair. The government should make those rich country club people let everyone in who can't afford to join and force the big shots to teach me how to play golf as good as Lorena Ochoa.

Maybe, if the Augusta National Country Club were in Cuba this argument would fly. Even then my guess is that the friends of the Castros would be getting tee times a lot faster than anyone else while eating much better food as well as drinking much better alcohol and smoking some fine Cubans. And, you probably could not praise God when you got a par.

To paraphrase George Orwell-- "All Cubans are equal, but some are more equal than others."

Some people really need to get a life and get a real job

Originally Posted by rubicon

Some people really need to get a life and get a real job

Anyone hiring??

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Anyone hiring??

I heard there were some openings in Augusta for some service jobs. They are temporary until the crowds leave. But I bet you can make some good tips.

Originally Posted by bkcunningham1

I heard there were some openings in Augusta for some service jobs. They are temporary until the crowds leave. But I bet you can make some good tips.

Good one, bkcunningham1.

you know, after giving this issue more thought I have reversed my opinion on this matter.

As a poor non talented white male I demand that this private organization open its door to anyone who expresses an interest in joining. I also look to Obama who is supportive of breaching this private organization to underwrite my expenses in joining this private organization. I mean if goverment can underwrite thousands of mortgages for people who clearly did not have the funds to make their first mortgage payment then he can underwrite my Augusta National Golf Club dues, fees and other expenses. I am an American and that is all that is needed to support my claim for these funds. My plans fits well with Obama's in advancing the redistribution of wealth.

And since Obama will fund my membership I think it logical that Obama also fund my private lesson from golf pro Butch Harmon. I make these demands because it is just not fair that Gates and company ge to join and I can't, after all we are all equal under the US Constitution.

Now that I have opened Obama's eyes to this inequity I need to send him information on the number Corporate Boards I desire to serve on and continuing his agenda of wealth redistribution, the amount of income I expect to receive along with stock options, etc.

Hmmmmmm maybe I should work on the Pope next?

Originally Posted by rubicon

you know, after giving this issue more thought I have reversed my opinion on this matter.

As a pYor non talented white male I demand that this private organization open its door to anyone who expresses an interest in joining. I also look to Obama who is supportive of breaching this private organization to underwrite my expenses in joining this private organization. I mean if goverment can underwrite thousands of mortgages for people who clearly did not have the funds to make their first mortgage payment then he can underwrite my Augusta National Golf Club dues, fees and other expenses. I am an American and that is all that is needed to support my claim for these funds. My plans fits well with Obama's in advancing the redistribution of wealth.

And since Obama will fund my membership I think it logical that Obama also fund my private lesson from golf pro Butch Harmon. I make these demands because it is just not fair that Gates and company ge to join and I can't, after all we are all equal under the US Constitution.

Now that I have opened Obama's eyes to this inequity I need to send him information on the number Corporate Boards I desire to serve on and continuing his agenda of wealth redistribution, the amount of income I expect to receive along with stock options, etc.

Hmmmmmm maybe I should work on the Pope next?

Looks like someone has been smoking those fine Cuban cigars. I had a Sociology teacher at the University of Nevada, Reno who was an ardent Marxist. He is probably the only person I know though that might go along with this argument.

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Looks like someone has been smoking those fine Cuban cigars. I had a Sociology teacher at the University of Nevada, Reno who was an ardent Marxist. He is probably the only person I know thought that might go along with this argument.

you can make fun of RUBICON all you want, but he is not far off !!!

Originally Posted by Bucco

you can make fun of RUBICON all you want, but he is not far off !!!

According to whom?? I have heard the claim that President Obama is a socialist bent on class warfare. Not really buying that claim. Show me how Mitt Romney would get the money to balance the budget without raising taxes?? Wealth redistribution claims against President Obama from a Republican usually means an attack on the increase of taxes on the rich.

Some traditions send a message. This one does seem to be an old part of the glass ceiling. Wonder what Sarah Palin would say about this tradition at the Augusta National Golf Club?

I think that is just fine for men to have "men only clubs" and women to have the same. My god, do we have no choice anymore of who we spend our time with on this planet ?

I think that some people are just predisposed to LOOKING for a message.

I guess we have to share our lives with everybody, no matter what!

notlongnow, AMEN!! AMEN!! AMEN!!

I fully support freedom of association for any group. Neither of my two sons wanted to join a Sorority and neither of my two daughters wished to become a member of any of the Fraternities. Sororities and Fraternities are private organizations that choose their own members and require that the members be of a specific gender. Every one that I know of receives government aid either directly or indirectly.

Most Masonic Lodges are men only while The Daughter of the American Revolution is restricted to women. Trying to distinguish these organizations from a Country Club is equally as sensible as debating how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. The basic idea of freedom is to allow people to do what they want so long as it does not hurt others. As I’ve told my children, you have every right to swing your arms, but that right ends where another person’s nose begins.

Originally Posted by BBQMan

I fully support freedom of association for any group. Neither of my two sons wanted to join a Sorority and neither of my two daughters wished to become a member of any of the Fraternities. Sororities and Fraternities are private organizations that choose their own members and require that the members be of a specific gender. Every one that I know of receives government aid either directly or indirectly.

Most Masonic Lodges are men only while The Daughter of the American Revolution is restricted to women. Trying to distinguish these organizations from a Country Club is equally as sensible as debating how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. The basic idea of freedom is to allow people to do what they want so long as it does not hurt others. As I’ve told my children, you have every right to swing your arms, but that right ends where another person’s nose begins.

There is a big difference though from a Soroity or Fraternity and the Augusta National Country Club where one of the most prestigious golf tournaments in the world is played. It is the Masters we are talking about here.


I have no problem say with women not being in the NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB as players or with them actually playing in the Masters Tournament. The Augusta National Country Club though is different in quality and kind.

Women in the NFL-- http://espn.go.com/espnw/news-opinio...-nfl-long-shot

http://weeklyworldnews.com/sports/28...women-to-play/

Sure would be a lot of challenges for a woman who played against the big boys in the NFL.

Women in NBA-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Meyers

http://espn.go.com/espnw/news-opinio...oman-shoot-nba

There is a big difference though from a Soroity or Fraternity and the Augusta National Country Club where one of the most prestigious golf tournaments in the world is played. It is the Masters we are talking about here.

I don't see the difference. There is only a difference if you care about golf and then only to some, a very few in my opinion.
Is it fair that Rory Mcilroy can't play in the LPGA open? I will never get to play at Augusta, what about me?

I don't think you are talking about competition though.
I think you think the 1% are just taking advantage of women and taking there right to play at Augusta.
I believe you are really reaching to find a connection to the ridiculous notion that conservatives are trying to limit women's rights, which is equally a stretch.