Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
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Since there seems to be lots of interest in Florida's CWL and the Castle Doctrine, now seems a good time for some acturate information on the subject.
First off, you do not need to even fire a firearm to get your concealed weapons permit for Florida. Personally if you get it this way you are more of a danger to yourself than you are to any criminal who attacks you. Second, find a good instructor, one who will give you basic firearms handling lessons, have your fire between 100 and 150 rounds and go over Florida Statute 790.xxx, you can google it and read it for yourself. Third, Florida is just one of several states that issue non-resident permits. Yes it is easy to get a permit in Florida for a non-resident that is honored in several states. Again read the statute concerning CWL and it will inform you of what states honor a non-resident Florida permit. There is not as many as you think. As a resident of Florida, your permit is honored in 31 states as of now. It goes up and down so always check Florida's up to date listing for all current states that honor Florida's permit. Google it, get the information for yourself. Now the Castle Doctrine: The Florida "Castle Doctrine" law basically does three things: One: It establishes, in law, the presumption that a criminal who forcibly enters or intrudes into your home or occupied vehicle is there to cause death or great bodily harm, therefore a person may use any manner of force, including deadly force, against that person. Two: It removes the "duty to retreat" if you are attacked in any place you have a right to be. You no longer have to turn your back on a criminal and try to run when attacked. Instead, you may stand your ground and fight back, meeting force with force, including deadly force, if you reasonably believe it is necessary to prevent death or great bodily harm to yourself or others. [This is an American right repeatedly recognized in Supreme Court gun cases.] Three: It provides that persons using force authorized by law shall not be prosecuted for using such force. It also prohibits criminals and their families from suing victims for injuring or killing the criminals who have attacked them. In short, it gives rights back to law-abiding people and forces judges and prosecutors who are prone to coddling criminals to instead focus on protecting victims. SO -- is this the impression you got from the news? Why not? Aren’t media people impartial purveyors of objective facts, with no bias or spin, faithfully and accurately reporting the news? Everyone who believes that’s an accurate description of the news media please raise your hand. See? No hands go up. Despite their protests otherwise, the news media has, in general, and especially with respect to gun issues, become an outrageous purveyor of agenda-driven nonsense on the dark side of the force. Surprise, Surprise, see you can not just go about shooting people on a whim. If you think that is the case, Florida has a place for you, free room and board and best of all, FREE medical care. What a deal. If you want great training and up to date information, contact me and I will direct you to a trainer who give one of the best classes for CWL in this part of Florida. When you finish his class, you know what you can and can not do and will know that your best defense is AVIODANCE, DETERANCE and your CELLPHONE. You can PM me and I will send you his information so that you can contact him. Now, I do private lessons, see certificates below, and I am also licensed by Florida for CWL training, but my time is taken up with competitive shooting, yes, shooting can be fun and relaxing, so I don't really want to get into that training part again. I am retired, the trainer that I will refer you to is not. Y'all have a Really Great Day.
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Florida CWL Instructor NRA Certified Law Enforcement Handgun/Shotgun Instructor NRA Certified Civilian Handgun/Shotgun Instructor NRA Chief Range Safety Officer NRA Certified Home Protection Instructor Retired Army Military Police Investigator - 20 years, 4 months, 13 days Retired Deputy Sheriff/Corrections Officer IDPA Safety Officer Instructor All skill is in vain when an Angel weewees in the flintlock of your musket. |
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Yes, the media has sensationalized the recent shooting. I had looked up the laws myself as they were intended though.
The non resident permit info is especially interesting. Who knew? Is there a shooting range and club in TV? |
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If your instructor tells you that you should purchase semi automatic handgun find another instructor that will talk to you about a revolver.
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Both posters are correct. You need way more training to run a semi-auto than a revolver. Not to say that ladies can not shoot semi's but a lot of ladies do not have the upper body strength to rack a semi. Lot's do, but lot's don't. A revolver is my first choice for a lady home defense firearm. I must add that I have trained lots of ladies to handle and fire a semi and some have even went on to place in IDPA competition.
As for ranges, Eustis Gun Club is the best in the area. $187 a year and you have pistol berms, a 25 and 50 yard pistol range, a 200 meter and 100 yard rifle range, and all the shotgun sports, 5 stand, sporting clays, trap and skeet. There is a shooting club in the Villages, two of them in fact. The Trap and Skeet Club meets on the third Wednesday of each month at Saddlebrook RC, at 7 PM and the Village Straight Shooters at Sea Breeze on the third Thursday of each month at 6 PM. If you are a CWL holder or want to learn how to safely handle and shoot your pistol, please join us at the Straight Shooters. We have two matchs a month during the week, a fun competition and then some shooting instructions all for free. There is a target and range fee of $15 per shoot. The yearly dues for the Straight Shooters is $20 a year and that covers our insurance. If you need more information about the Straight Shooters they have a website, URL: http:The Villages Straight Shooters Club - Home Give us a lookover.
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Florida CWL Instructor NRA Certified Law Enforcement Handgun/Shotgun Instructor NRA Certified Civilian Handgun/Shotgun Instructor NRA Chief Range Safety Officer NRA Certified Home Protection Instructor Retired Army Military Police Investigator - 20 years, 4 months, 13 days Retired Deputy Sheriff/Corrections Officer IDPA Safety Officer Instructor All skill is in vain when an Angel weewees in the flintlock of your musket. |
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The Gun Shop and Gun Range on RT 44 towards Leesburg has a nice range. You can rent time for $9 and hour and a handgun for $10 an hour (ammo and targets are extra).
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Jacksonville, Florida Andover, New Jersey The Villages Second star to the right, then straight on 'til morning. |
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So what are your recommendations for a small hand gun in the home for protection that is easy to handle for a man or woman?
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I like Taurus .38 special ultra light.
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s&w snub stainless steel. no rust that way!
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Whatever your choice of pistol for "home protection", I definitely would recommend taking a course by Figmo. I have met him and he is one level headed guy and knows what he talks about. He and I do not agree on lots of things but gun safety and knowing how to shoot in a stressful situation are areas we agree on completely.
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taurus is made in brazil....cheaper but not the same quality as s& w
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We'll have to go to the range to prove that. I'm very pleased with their quality and accuracy.
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I like the .38 special but my wife hates the noise and the weight so I let her practice with a .22 revolver. She is happy with that one. I also let her try a .22 automatic but she hates the way the shells eject and the way it recoils. If you decide to buy a handgun, remember you are looking in the $400 - 600 range for a reliable one. So you will want handguns that you and your wife will be happy with. The Gun Range on Rt 44 only has a .22 revolver for rent. I wish they had a .22 automatic and a few larger caliber revolvers for rent. I was able to borrow the other handguns from friends for her to check out.
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Jacksonville, Florida Andover, New Jersey The Villages Second star to the right, then straight on 'til morning. |
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OK, you he men, you want a new pistol, go buy it for yourself. If you are getting it for the lady of the house, take her a long and she gets what she wants and what fits her hand. If you can't do that, give her your credit card, don't make her use hers, and I will take her to the gun shop for you.
Everyone says a .38, well guys, get the .357, as it will shoot .38s, which are cheaper, but for defense load it up with .357s. You will never feel the difference in a stress situation. Also you have to remember where we are living. You do not want something that will shoot through several walls, your neighbors might not be to happy with you. In the place where we are currently living a shotgun is the best home defense weapon you can have. Loaded with 7 1/2 or 8 shot it will stop an attacker but will not blow through walls and upset your neighbor. I always start my ladies out on a .22 revolver or .22 semi-auto. Then move them up to a 9mm or a .38 pistol that is chambered for .357. The .357s have a little more weight, which equals less recoil over all. Practice with your .22, sight picture, trigger squeeze and breath control are all the same no matter what caliber you are shooting. The only thing difference is "recoil." As I said before, under stress you will never feel the recoil. I had one lady whose hands where crippled up and she could not pull the trigger on a revolver. She did not have enough strength to rack a semi so we ended up getting her a Berrata 21a in .22 lr caliber. Don't think that the .22 lr is a light weight, it has been responsible for more deaths, other than military calibers, than any other caliber. Now that you have decided on what pistol you want, take a good basic pistol course, learn how to safely handle your new pistol, then come shoot with us. We will put you under a mild stress situation, that timer is all the stress that you will need, and learn how to portect yourself if the need should ever arise. Hopefully it will never arise. Remember your best personal protection is be aware of your surrounds, avoid a situation if you can and always keep your cell phone handy so that you can call for help if needed.
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Florida CWL Instructor NRA Certified Law Enforcement Handgun/Shotgun Instructor NRA Certified Civilian Handgun/Shotgun Instructor NRA Chief Range Safety Officer NRA Certified Home Protection Instructor Retired Army Military Police Investigator - 20 years, 4 months, 13 days Retired Deputy Sheriff/Corrections Officer IDPA Safety Officer Instructor All skill is in vain when an Angel weewees in the flintlock of your musket. |
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I personally like my Glock Model 36 in .45 auto for personal carry and home defense. However (IMHO), it would be hard to beat a 12 gauge shotgun for purely home defense. Firing 000 buckshot at an intruder gives you a much better chance of landing a solid hit as opposed to a single bullet from a handgun. There's also the psychological advantage to a intruder hearing the racking of the slide to chamber a shell. On the other hand, the Taurus Judge and similar S&W revolvers are chambered to hold .410 gauge shotshells and .45 pistol rounds. I know of people who stagger these rounds in their revolvers. The best piece of advice is the have something available with which you are comfortable, can control and hit what you're aiming at.
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