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If there is any truth to The Old Testament and to the existence of Jesus Christ, Then I submit that documents of great importance can and SHOULD be changed to fit the times. Assuming the Framers of the Constitution are no wiser than GOD, Then I submit that GOD sent us a message through Jesus and the NEW Testament to modify man made documents to better assist mans desire for a safer, better and godly existence. The second amendment really is trivial when compared to the modifications from the Old to the New Testament.
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I don't think the NRA believes in the Bible. Too many politicans in their pockets.
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The ? is what was the intent of our forefathers when the 2nd was written, and how do we feel it's intent should be updated in light of of the recent massacre.

Is that about it?

How do feel about the NRA's response to CT?
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Of course, the same thought process could be applied to a bunch of other well-intended documents. And no, I am not a proponent of the NRA.
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The ? is what was the intent of our forefathers when the 2nd was written, and how do we feel it's intent should be updated in light of of the recent massacre.

Is that about it?

How do feel about the NRA's response to CT?
I think it is way past time to update the 2nd amendment.

NRA's response to CT was insensitive and foolish nonsense intended only to try to hold on to the blood money they continue to bring in.
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I think it is way past time to update the 2nd amendment.

NRA's response to CT was insensitive and foolish nonsense intended only to try to hold on to the blood money they continue to bring in.
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But the Nra has sooo much power in Washington it may be impossible to update it.
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Common sense and intellect doesn't seem to be applicable with the extreme divisiveness present in our country and I'm not sure we will ever be able to overcome that. Neither "side" seems to want to be the first to blink.
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Common sense and intellect doesn't seem to be applicable with the extreme divisiveness present in our country and I'm not sure we will ever be able to overcome that. Neither "side" seems to want to be the first to blink.
Sir Karl Popper has a lot of good ideas about taking back government when they seem to insist that their authority to do things is based on their false claims of superior knowledge.

Here's a good introduction to his thinking. Sir Karl Popper "Science as Falsification," 1963

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If there is any truth to The Old Testament and to the existence of Jesus Christ, Then I submit that documents of great importance can and SHOULD be changed to fit the times. Assuming the Framers of the Constitution are no wiser than GOD, Then I submit that GOD sent us a message through Jesus and the NEW Testament to modify man made documents to better assist mans desire for a safer, better and godly existence. The second amendment really is trivial when compared to the modifications from the Old to the New Testament.
I think your barking up the wrong tree. The New Testament didn't change the Old Testament. jesus said "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. Matthew 5:17

Jesus Affirms the Old Testament
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After giving it a lot of thought, the NRA's saying makes sense, to me, anyways.

"The only thing stopping a bad man with a gun, is a good man with a gun."

Think about it.
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I think your barking up the wrong tree. The New Testament didn't change the Old Testament. jesus said "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. Matthew 5:17

Jesus Affirms the Old Testament
I believe some of these might be add ons into The Bible. You never know what was actually put in The Bible to fit in with the politics of the writers at that time. It is a very interesting book full of many open questions.

The Great Courses offer a lot of very interersting sets of lectures on the various sections of The Bible. http://www.thegreatcourses.com/tgc/c....aspx?cid=6593
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i think we should keep the 2nd amendment as is and get rid of the nra!
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Ask yourself..... What government, foreign or domestic, would every think for one minute to invade the USA, the State you live in, or your home with the 2nd ammendment in-tact.
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After giving it a lot of thought, the NRA's saying makes sense, to me, anyways.

"The only thing stopping a bad man with a gun, is a good man with a gun."

Think about it.
I read this somewhere recently: When a child on a playground throws rocks at other children, do we give the other children handfulls of rocks to throw back?

think about it.
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The second amendment is not the problem, the interpretation is. That can be said of whatever religion's holy books as well. It wasn't until the Heller case in 2008, that's right 2008, that the constitution had been interpreted as protecting an individual's right to keep and bear arms. Prior to 2008 every supreme court decision had interpreted the second amendment with attention to the "well regulated militia" language. This court by a single vote changed the interpretation. The 5 votes were the usual who claim that courts shouldn't be activist and must respect presidence. Except when they don't like the status quo I guess. The majority attempted to explain their choice to ignore the "well regulated" clause by asserting that the militia consisted of all males in the nation. All that is needed to renew the possibility of vigorous gun control is a single vote on the Supreme Court to switch. For those interested in more information on Heller the wikipedia page explains the context and impact of that case in a balanced way. District of Columbia v. Heller - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The NRA has since the second half of the 20th century claimed that the 2nd amendment protected individual ownership and had convinced many Americans that this was the history and the law of the land, but it was not true until the Heller case.
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