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POA Member or Not

View Poll Results: Are You a Member of the POA ?
Yes I am a member 65 58.56%
No I am not a member 22 19.82%
I am going to join 14 12.61%
I will never join 11 9.91%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 111. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-31-2013, 07:37 PM
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If they had a lifetime membership like the VHA I would think about it.

I have more than made back my membership cost with the discounts given to VHA members.

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Old 11-01-2013, 07:32 AM
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If they had a lifetime membership like the VHA I would think about it.

I have more than made back my membership cost with the discounts given to VHA members.

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The POA has done a lot, and continues to do a lot, for residents. The POA is the only organization that represents the residents in situations (which arise from time to time) where their interests conflict with those of the Developer. I view supporting the POA as a civic obligation, not a way to get discounts.

The VHA does some good things, such as its golf-cart-safety course. However, the VHA is subsidized by the Developer in an obvious effort on the Developer's part to weaken the POA-- which has been a thorn in his side at times. As a consequence, the VHA invariably sides with the Developer in conflict situations. I view supporting the VHA as a matter of individual choice, but people should be aware of its connection to the Developer.
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How does one in these type of polls that I see here from time to time?
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I am not the homeowner but believe strongly in checks and balances like those offered by the POA. If the Villages Daily Sun does not cover an issue adequately then the POA paper usually will come into the matter with their take.

I try to counter whatever news sources I have so that I get a clearer picture of the facts.

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I am not the homeowner but believe strongly in checks and balances like those offered by the POA. If the Villages Daily Sun does not cover an issue adequately then the POA paper usually will come into the matter with their take.

I try to counter whatever news sources I have so that I get a clearly picture of the facts.
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I would be more interested in seeing the response of " How many support the POA" and if so why?

I will start. I am not a member of the POA. It has nothing to do with monthly dues.

However, I do support what the POA does and what it stands for. This community should consider itself fortunate to have such dedicated people go out on a limb for them
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The POA has done a lot, and continues to do a lot, for residents. The POA is the only organization that represents the residents in situations (which arise from time to time) where their interests conflict with those of the Developer. I view supporting the POA as a civic obligation, not a way to get discounts.

The VHA does some good things, such as its golf-cart-safety course. However, the VHA is subsidized by the Developer in an obvious effort on the Developer's part to weaken the POA-- which has been a thorn in his side at times. As a consequence, the VHA invariably sides with the Developer in conflict situations. I view supporting the VHA as a matter of individual choice, but people should be aware of its connection to the Developer.
I did not say that I did not support the POA. I just responded to the poll and said why I was not a POA member.

I am a firm believer in the POA. If they had a lifetime membership I would join.

I was driving down to Sweet's Ace in SS to get the POA bulletin monthly before they delivered it.

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Old 11-02-2013, 09:21 AM
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The Villages is a wonderful place to live. However, the POA provides a much need checks and balances, watching out for the interests of the residents. Our structure of government clearly favors and benefits the developer and most of the supporting structure (media, commercial, etc.) is clearly beholden to the developer. One need look no further than the multi-million dollar settlement receive from the developer because of POA action or the POA's attempts to highlight things that the Villages Daily Sun choses to ignore, to see the value of the POA. We are indeed fortunate to have the dedicated individuals who volunteer their time to the POA.
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Just wondering how many TOTV are member of POA
Actually everyone should support the POA. People believe there are two homeowner associations in the Villages when in fact the POA is the only true homeowners association. The VHA for the most part is an arm representing the position of the developer in EVERY decision. It was established to be exactly as it operates.
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I just don't like the POA.
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I just don't like the POA.
Why?
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I actually posted to a POA vs VHA thread in February, 2013 and it pretty much still applies today. CLICK HERE to read it.

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Why?
Mostly because of the negativity. Not just in the paper they publish but it's members here who post a lot on TOTV are generally against the developer...... And really sound like they don't like the developer at all.

I don't know the developer and I don't know any of the negative people who frequently oppose him. I suspect that there is a lot of politics behind a lot of posts against him and his family..

I can't get all excited and mad because there aren't the parades like they used to have and the buffalo have left.

I still don't understand why the developer was sued by the president of the POA and those two lawyers who lived/live here and reportedly got a lot of money in their own pockets as a result of that law suit. Am I correct on that or not? The Morses seem to cross all of their tees and dot all of their i's in my book.


http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...es-fees-lawyer

I always agree with Xavier and his post was very reasonable.

I could be wrong. I am not big on small issues. I like it here a lot and don't think a lot of things need to be fixed. In fact, I can't think of anything.

I like the golf cart accident reports and I like the articles about lightning in the POA newsletter. It must be expensive to print and deliver all of those papers. Do the advertisers pay for it? Seems like there is always a full page ad from a local MLS group.
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Old 11-02-2013, 12:34 PM
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I'm not a member of POA but I support the effort to have checks and balances.

One of the reasons I don't join POA is because of the obvious bias against, and even hatred of, the developer. The reporting in the POA Bulletin is often very sensationalistic and biased (more biased than the Daily Sun) and in some cases has told untruths. The funding of the live oaks park by the bridge on Morse is an example of where untruths were told but later clarified by VHA and facts.

I think we need both VHA and POA. VHA's goal is to keep TV pristinely kept, fiscally funded and managed, and fiscally solvent as well. The developer protecting his business assets here (banks, insurance and mortgage companies, and millions of square feet of commercial leasing properties) is simultaneously protecting OUR assets tied up in our homes. If the developer lets his business assets go to the dogs (which won't happen), home values go to the dogs right behind them.

In many ways, what's good for the developer's business here is good for us, too. We couldn't afford to live like this in other places, and in the first place, other places don't even HAVE what we have here, much less at an affordable price.
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