Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
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Food Inc.
This movie came out last year; if you haven't seen it yet, please watch it. It's an excellent movie and one that I believe every American should see.
The official trailer is the link below: http://t.ymlp57.com/emhyafamhbarahmmbazamsmqm/click.php
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Sorry to rant but I am sick of politics in every part of my entertainment venues. It is hard to find a television show that isn't spoiled by political BS. |
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The movie does not blame President Bush for anything. At the time of some of the filming Bush was, in fact, our president.
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Ashcroft served under Bush until 2005. When was this filmed?
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I don't know. The film is not political as far as I remember.
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K9-Lovers, I realize you posted a movie link to advocate and educate people about something you believe. So I hope you don't mind if I post a question in your movie link thread.
What percent of America's food is produced by corporate farms? |
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Food production and consumption is a complex problem.
It is unfortunate, and fortunate that we do not produce food the way we used to.
I ate my grandmothers home canned food for a long time and escaped botulism. The preservatives in today's food aren't good for our gut lining, it preserves it, but it does keep us from getting a some of the nasty stuff that causes illness and it keeps it from spoiling, although the preservatives kind of spoil it in another way.. Poultry grown the way it is now on large farms in an inhumane way is cheaper and more subject to carry salmonella. But, I said cheaper. How food is produced and preserved represents part of the problem with nutrition but not all of the problem with good nutrition. We can still make choices and I think education of children on WHAT a nutritious diet is and how to prepare it would be a huge help. A lot of people don't eat right anymore and they really don't like to cook/prepare meals and don't know how to cook/prepare meals and to me that is just as serious an issue. We have made huge strides in changing babies over from formula to mother's milk but we are still learning how and when and what to begin introducing food to infants and toddlers to avoid later allergies and give them a healthy start. I suspect that giving vitamins to our little ones helped them be healthy and strong and also made them enter puberty earlier. My grandmother wasn't much of a fan of the germ theory and didn't think a bug was a threat to anyone unless you could swat it. I think children should be taught how to safely buy, cook and preserve food. We are so addicted to fast food and already prepared food because of our hectic life style. I think that the cooks in our kitchens or the people who pick things up to feed our families throughout this land are acting on too little information or incorrect information I think it is a cultural problem, a business problem and even a political problem. Help me down from this soap box. I need a cup of coffee and I have heard that coffee is both good for you and not good for you. I am drinking it anyway. Last edited by graciegirl; 11-02-2010 at 07:45 AM. |
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Let me explain how they are grown, and then judge for yourselves. Day 1 The eggs are hatched and immediately transported to the farm in flats of 100 each. Depending on the time of year, we would get between 25-30,000 per house. We loaded the flats on a flatbed trailer and backed them into the house and placed the chicks on the floor of the house under brooders and where food and water was available. The temperature was between 90 and 95 degrees, which is maximum comfort for a chick to encourage it to eat and drink, which they won't do if it is too cold or too hot. As they grow feathers they can hold their body heat better and the temperature is reduced as needed. Their entire life is spent on the floor of the house with the freedom to move about, and they are not caged as is commonly believed. I know someone will say I am wrong, but this is the way it is. Egg layers are in cages, not broilers (if you don't like the thought of caged chickens, think about this the next time you crack an egg). They always have access to food and water. At growout, which for me was usually 37 days, the integrator (Tyson in my case) sent a crew to pick up the chickens and they were hauled by semi to the processing plant. Some are grown longer, as much as 8 weeks, depending on the market they are being grown for. Compare that to a free range bird. See the above description. Open one door on each poultry house for at least one hour each day, and our government mandates that they can be sold as free range. If you think this sounds outrageous, look it up. You can open every door on a chicken house and they will look out, but they won't leave. They are too comfortable in the house where the temperature is perfect for them and they have all the food and water they need. Several times I have found one of the doors open on one of my houses that had been open all day and none had ever escaped. You mostly close the doors to keep heat or cooling in and predators out. Compare that to a yard chicken. They eat and drink all day, they roost at night. They may or may not have a shelter and are exposed to whatever elements there may be. That is natural and good. It takes a yard chicken 3-4 months to grow to a good size for processing due to weather, nutrition, etc. In order to meet the needs of the American public, I would have had to have 3 or 4 times as many chickens running free, the losses to predators and whatever else would have been tremendous, and they would have been impossible to catch and send to market, driving the cost to the consumer through the roof. What is the difference between a yard chicken and one raised in one of the modern facilities? Mostly the food and the environment. Yard chickens have a longer life span, but not by that much. What is the difference between a free range chicken and one raised in a modern facility? Nothing, except the free range has had the option every day to go outside. If you truly want a free range bird, buy from a local farmer who has yard chickens. They have had a more or less natural diet of bugs and worms and whatever else. I have found that a chicken will eat most anything it can swallow, including one another. Of course, the meat is not USDA inspected, so you take your chances in that sense. I guess if all this sounds inhumane, then nothing I can say will change anyone's mind. Hogs and cattle are pretty much raised the same way. Maybe not indoors, but highly integrated like poultry. The answer to all of this is that if you are truly disgusted with the way they are raised, go vegan. Although they are alive, vegetables aren't cute and cuddly like a baby chick and can be eaten with impunity.
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So iandwk, were you a corporate farm or a family owned farm?
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Family owned. We contracted with Tyson. They supplied the chicks and the food, we paid for everything else, including propane and electricity, and we owned the houses.
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The reason the chickens do not leave their dark prison, is because that is all they know and that is what they are used to. Reminds me of these abused women that stay with their abusers.
Chickens that have been "rescued" from breeding facilities like Tyson's and have been released to enjoy grass, dirt, sunlight, and dustbaths are fearful and cower in their chicken house hiding their heads in the corner. I've seen this same behavior from dogs that I've rescued from puppy mills. It comes from extreme psychological damage from being in an environment that is not normal for that species. Some dogs (and some of those chickens) never normalize. I had a dog that was fearful of grass and never learned to eat from a dog food bowl, and ran around in tight circles rather than walking straight because she was in a small cage since birth. That behavior never went away in SIX YEARS. So, I'm not surprised that your chickens did not leave their house. Did your henhouse have windows? Did the chickens see daylight at all? From my understanding, Tyson contracts require that the chickens be raised in darkness. If the house has/had windows, then Tyson required that black plastic be placed over the windows to eliminate sunlight. How many chickens were raised per square foot of building space? What hormones and other supplements were used to make them grow so fast and so big that they cannot even support their giant bodies on their legs? How many dead chickens did you have to throw out everyday due to overcrowding and disease? How many chickens did not even grow feathers because of the filthy living conditions on top of their own feces? How many were sick and diseased? Although you raised chickens that are eaten, rather than those that lay eggs, why didn't you talk about the male chicks that are ground up in machines while still ALIVE simply because they cannot lay eggs? And, why not discuss poultry that have their beaks broken off so that feeders can be hooked up? Or have their beaks sheared off so they won't hurt each other due to the overcrowded conditions? There are lots of other questions that I could ask; there are lots of details that you glossed over. Probably a normal defense mechanism in our own human psyche -- it is hard to admit to even yourself that you were behaving abhorently. It would not have been necessary for me to post this response, if you had not posted yours. I would be content if some people would just have simply watched the movie and made their own decisions. All of you reading this -- do yourself a favor and educate yourselves. Watch the movie, which is NOT all about chickens, or animal rights. It is also about the food prep workers, and it is about the food we eat here in the U.S. and will help you make wise choices when you shop in the grocery store. And, don't be gullible and believe everything you heard from me or from the above Food Factory Farmer . . . find out for yourself!
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here's a link to a film we were given a couple years ago that might explain some things Caution: some graphic material not to be seen during dinner http://www.cok.net/magazine/16/02.php note Larry gave up fowl in the 70's Linda is working on it L and L
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I have friends who are vegetarians and friends who are vegans. I've asked them this question, so I will respectively ask you this question also just for the point of discussion and education.
What would happen if everyone in the world went vegetarian tomorrow? |
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