[VILLAGERBB]

Any thoughts? The show makes dating look like an overwhelming process.

[manaboutown]

It's an ABC show. Frivolous and fraudulent. It is definitely not reality. Check out what was happening to her husband when he passed on and the actual factual histories of the men.

This is what I read.

"Her deceased husband was a convicted criminal. Once again, ABC has set a low bar. John Vassos pled guilty in 2017 to charges of tax evasion, mail fraud, and wire fraud. He died before he did any jail time. But, his accomplice, Keith Forney, did pay a hefty fine and did serve jail time. The IRS has probably already seized what joint assets Joan and John Vassos had. Honest to goodness, squeaky image is not to be believed. Another old lady in it for self promotion, fame, money."

Here is what happened.

"Vassos pled guilty in June 2017 to one count of conspiracy to commit mail fraud, one count of tax fraud, and one count of conspiracy to commit wire fraud. He is awaiting sentencing."

From: District of Columbia | Government Contractor Pleads Guilty to Acting as a Pass-Through Minority Business Enterprise | United States Department of Justice

[Shipping up to Boston]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

It's an ABC show. Frivolous and fraudulent. It is definitely not reality. Check out what was happening to her husband when he passed on and the actual factual histories of the men.

It actually is reality. The reality of how desperate some people are (gender blind) and in some cases, how little they sell their dignity to ABC for. It’s like a Grifters Anonymous charter....except no so anonymous. That said, anybody know what time Dancing with the Stars is on!

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston

It actually is reality. The reality of how desperate some people are (gender blind) and in some cases, how little they sell their dignity to ABC for. It’s like a Grifters Anonymous charter....except no so anonymous. That said, anybody know what time Dancing with the Stars is on!

I really do not understand the fascination people have with these so called reality shows

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

I really do not understand the fascination people have with these so called reality shows

Oh, it is fun to watch. I remain single so I DVR it. Some participants are quite good actors. I find it lightly humorous and entertaining. Joan was my pick on the Golden Bachelor show but for someone running a school her English is not great. She used "lay" for "lie" in the second episode. Also the show is very DEI. Again, ABC. duh!

[KAM+6]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

It's an ABC show. Frivolous and fraudulent. It is definitely not reality. Check out what was happening to her husband when he passed on and the actual factual histories of the men.

This is what I read.

"Her deceased husband was a convicted criminal. Once again, ABC has set a low bar. John Vassos pled guilty in 2017 to charges of tax evasion, mail fraud, and wire fraud. He died before he did any jail time. But, his accomplice, Keith Forney, did pay a hefty fine and did serve jail time. The IRS has probably already seized what joint assets Joan and John Vassos had. Honest to goodness, squeaky image is not to be believed. Another old lady in it for self promotion, fame, money."

Sounds just like " The Apprentice "

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

I really do not understand the fascination people have with these so called reality shows

Someone to look down on. Which is sad.
Or, Someone to look up to. Which is really sad!

[VILLAGERBB]

Very interesting....but I'm not surprised. After watching "The Golden Bachelor" I came to the conclusion that television matchmaking is noting more than a soap opera.

Originally Posted by manaboutown

It's an ABC show. Frivolous and fraudulent. It is definitely not reality. Check out what was happening to her husband when he passed on and the actual factual histories of the men.

This is what I read.

"Her deceased husband was a convicted criminal. Once again, ABC has set a low bar. John Vassos pled guilty in 2017 to charges of tax evasion, mail fraud, and wire fraud. He died before he did any jail time. But, his accomplice, Keith Forney, did pay a hefty fine and did serve jail time. The IRS has probably already seized what joint assets Joan and John Vassos had. Honest to goodness, squeaky image is not to be believed. Another old lady in it for self promotion, fame, money."

Here is what happened.

"Vassos pled guilty in June 2017 to one count of conspiracy to commit mail fraud, one count of tax fraud, and one count of conspiracy to commit wire fraud. "

From: District of Columbia | Government Contractor Pleads Guilty to Acting as a Pass-Through Minority Business Enterprise | United States Department of Justice

[justjim]

The most profitable Reality Show in the past according to Google, is American Idol on Fox. Second is Survivor on CBS. The Apprentice on NBC was third. The production cost on the Reality Shows is one of the major reasons why over 600 have been produced.

I did not view Golden Bachelor or Golden Bachelorette. These dating shows to find “the one” don’t interest me even a little bit . They are ridiculous and totally not reality IMHO. But to each their own.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

I really do not understand the fascination people have with these so called reality shows

Misery loves company?

[Cuervo]

Don't waste your time analyzing anything you watch on TV, it's just entertainment.
What one person enjoys another might hate.
Just remember when you talk about show business the emphasis is on business, if there isn't an audience for this show it would be off the air.
Maybe they should do a reality show on people who sit home and criticize anything on TV.
I personally have never watched this show, it's not something a gravitate to.

[Villagesgal]

They are so over the top that it's fun to watch, but there is no reality there to be seen. I've never had a first date that flew me to a secluded beach where a gourmet dinner was served under the stars after taking a sail in a yacht. Reality is so much better, a drive to the beach to enjoy a swim and people watching while enjoying a picnic lunch brought in a cooler. Now that's reality, and honestly a lot more fun.

[MandoMan]

Originally Posted by VILLAGERBB

Any thoughts? The show makes dating look like an overwhelming process.

Anyone 65 or older who has been in the dating pool, whether in person or online, knows there are going to be disappointments. It’s a learning experience, too, complicated by the fact that the clock is ticking. Yes, it can be overwhelming, especially for men and women who haven’t had a date in decades.

There have been times when I chose to see it as fun. I found women on the online dating sites. (More commonly, they contacted me.) We met at a good restaurant for dinner. We both dressed up. We both had a nice time. I walked them to their car and thanked them and said goodbye. That was it. That was enough—until I came to see it as another disappointment. If I maintain a good attitude, it’s pleasant. If I don’t, it can seem hopeless. I went out once with about twenty women before I found one I wanted to see again or wanted to kiss. Turned out she was 78, but we were both great kissers. We went out weekly for a couple months and talked nightly on the phone. Then she decided she wanted a guy her own age who wanted to live with her. That couldn’t be me.

Another twenty women later, I found someone else, this time my age, 70. We are still close friends, but no longer dating. She decided she wanted someone who loved to dance and swim and ride bikes. So she started dating another guy who said he loved those things. Turned out he is such a good dancer that he doesn’t like to dance with her, and he’s a narcissist, and not very bright.

Meanwhile, we have both realized that we love our lives alone and can’t stand to be around people very often. An hour a day is too much. We love our homes the way they are and don’t want to blend households with anyone. That’s good to know. I’ve given up dating because most women here, I think, aren’t dating for a pleasant time but because they are looking for something I can’t really provide. I hate to disappoint people. Count the cost. Apply the Hedonic Calculus. Would the pleasure you take in being with someone honestly make up for the frustration you would feel when being with someone all the time? I think often the happiest long term marriages are between people who don’t have much imagination. They get married, harness themselves to the plow together, and just pull together without glancing at the other side of the fence. It’s those who imagine they could do better who get divorced.

On rare occasions I look closely at my face in the mirror. Not often, but on occasion. It startles me. I don’t want a woman to see me that closely. Why would she want to? And I look at the women on these dating sites. Many have given themselves “digital facelifts” with some app, wiping away all their wrinkles and looking like kabuki actors. Any man who thinks the women really look like that is bound to be disappointed. I prefer women without makeup. Then there are the fit, sporty women whose skin on their arms is stringy, like bones in a sack. Or the women with all these hanging folds here and there. If that is what I’m seeing in them, probably that is what they are seeing in me. I don’t want to be seen that way. I want to see someone’s eyes light up when I appear. They used to. And then there are those who lie about their ages on the dating sites—sometimes by ten years. Who do they think they are fooling? (And I hear men do the same thing, but I don’t.) I don’t like liars, even if it’s about age. How can I trust them.

So I’m no longer dating. I’m happier alone. I’m not looking for a Golden Bachelorette.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Originally Posted by MandoMan

Anyone 65 or older who has been in the dating pool, whether in person or online, knows there are going to be disappointments. It’s a learning experience, too, complicated by the fact that the clock is ticking. Yes, it can be overwhelming, especially for men and women who haven’t had a date in decades.

There have been times when I chose to see it as fun. I found women on the online dating sites. (More commonly, they contacted me.) We met at a good restaurant for dinner. We both dressed up. We both had a nice time. I walked them to their car and thanked them and said goodbye. That was it. That was enough—until I came to see it as another disappointment. If I maintain a good attitude, it’s pleasant. If I don’t, it can seem hopeless. I went out once with about twenty women before I found one I wanted to see again or wanted to kiss. Turned out she was 78, but we were both great kissers. We went out weekly for a couple months and talked nightly on the phone. Then she decided she wanted a guy her own age who wanted to live with her. That couldn’t be me.

Another twenty women later, I found someone else, this time my age, 70. We are still close friends, but no longer dating. She decided she wanted someone who loved to dance and swim and ride bikes. So she started dating another guy who said he loved those things. Turned out he is such a good dancer that he doesn’t like to dance with her, and he’s a narcissist, and not very bright.

Meanwhile, we have both realized that we love our lives alone and can’t stand to be around people very often. An hour a day is too much. We love our homes the way they are and don’t want to blend households with anyone. That’s good to know. I’ve given up dating because most women here, I think, aren’t dating for a pleasant time but because they are looking for something I can’t really provide. I hate to disappoint people. Count the cost. Apply the Hedonic Calculus. Would the pleasure you take in being with someone honestly make up for the frustration you would feel when being with someone all the time? I think often the happiest long term marriages are between people who don’t have much imagination. They get married, harness themselves to the plow together, and just pull together without glancing at the other side of the fence. It’s those who imagine they could do better who get divorced.

On rare occasions I look closely at my face in the mirror. Not often, but on occasion. It startles me. I don’t want a woman to see me that closely. Why would she want to? And I look at the women on these dating sites. Many have given themselves “digital facelifts” with some app, wiping away all their wrinkles and looking like kabuki actors. Any man who thinks the women really look like that is bound to be disappointed. I prefer women without makeup. Then there are the fit, sporty women whose skin on their arms is stringy, like bones in a sack. Or the women with all these hanging folds here and there. If that is what I’m seeing in them, probably that is what they are seeing in me. I don’t want to be seen that way. I want to see someone’s eyes light up when I appear. They used to. And then there are those who lie about their ages on the dating sites—sometimes by ten years. Who do they think they are fooling? (And I hear men do the same thing, but I don’t.) I don’t like liars, even if it’s about age. How can I trust them.

So I’m no longer dating. I’m happier alone. I’m not looking for a Golden Bachelorette.

Great testimonial!
I’m in a younger demo but this should apply...Some unsolicited advice....it’s cliche but choose quality over quantity. Everybody goes on these dating sites thinking a scripted platform will result in a desired outcome. That’s why they call them OK Stupid, Plenty of Fools and Silver Linings Playbooks!
Choose organic over scripted. You can and will meet people in off script spaces in life and when/if you do, you’ll appreciate it more than an algorithm (attempting) to do it for you!

Btw...”20 women later”....for a second I thought this was posted by Wilt Chamberlain from beyond the grave!

[walterray1]

Originally Posted by MandoMan

Anyone 65 or older who has been in the dating pool, whether in person or online, knows there are going to be disappointments. It’s a learning experience, too, complicated by the fact that the clock is ticking. Yes, it can be overwhelming, especially for men and women who haven’t had a date in decades.

There have been times when I chose to see it as fun. I found women on the online dating sites. (More commonly, they contacted me.) We met at a good restaurant for dinner. We both dressed up. We both had a nice time. I walked them to their car and thanked them and said goodbye. That was it. That was enough—until I came to see it as another disappointment. If I maintain a good attitude, it’s pleasant. If I don’t, it can seem hopeless. I went out once with about twenty women before I found one I wanted to see again or wanted to kiss. Turned out she was 78, but we were both great kissers. We went out weekly for a couple months and talked nightly on the phone. Then she decided she wanted a guy her own age who wanted to live with her. That couldn’t be me.

Another twenty women later, I found someone else, this time my age, 70. We are still close friends, but no longer dating. She decided she wanted someone who loved to dance and swim and ride bikes. So she started dating another guy who said he loved those things. Turned out he is such a good dancer that he doesn’t like to dance with her, and he’s a narcissist, and not very bright.

Meanwhile, we have both realized that we love our lives alone and can’t stand to be around people very often. An hour a day is too much. We love our homes the way they are and don’t want to blend households with anyone. That’s good to know. I’ve given up dating because most women here, I think, aren’t dating for a pleasant time but because they are looking for something I can’t really provide. I hate to disappoint people. Count the cost. Apply the Hedonic Calculus. Would the pleasure you take in being with someone honestly make up for the frustration you would feel when being with someone all the time? I think often the happiest long term marriages are between people who don’t have much imagination. They get married, harness themselves to the plow together, and just pull together without glancing at the other side of the fence. It’s those who imagine they could do better who get divorced.

On rare occasions I look closely at my face in the mirror. Not often, but on occasion. It startles me. I don’t want a woman to see me that closely. Why would she want to? And I look at the women on these dating sites. Many have given themselves “digital facelifts” with some app, wiping away all their wrinkles and looking like kabuki actors. Any man who thinks the women really look like that is bound to be disappointed. I prefer women without makeup. Then there are the fit, sporty women whose skin on their arms is stringy, like bones in a sack. Or the women with all these hanging folds here and there. If that is what I’m seeing in them, probably that is what they are seeing in me. I don’t want to be seen that way. I want to see someone’s eyes light up when I appear. They used to. And then there are those who lie about their ages on the dating sites—sometimes by ten years. Who do they think they are fooling? (And I hear men do the same thing, but I don’t.) I don’t like liars, even if it’s about age. How can I trust them.

So I’m no longer dating. I’m happier alone. I’m not looking for a Golden Bachelorette.

Just wow. I am sure that the mirror is used quite often. Maybe after twenty women later...