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Old 02-29-2020, 12:15 PM
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As Villagers with a lot of residents over the age of 70, I would think twice about any overseas travel now.--Also, if you look @ travel insurance --pandemics/epidemics are not covered

IMHO--stay home--be safe
Anybody that Travels over seas right now & gets sick, sorry I can't feel sorry for them. Also just traveling by commercial airlines here in the states to me doesn't sound real safe either because you don't know where the plane has been or who's been on the plane that might of had the virus. You're right CHATBRAT, stay home....be safe!
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Old 02-29-2020, 12:36 PM
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The CDC estimates 56,000 people die annually from the flue, but yet we do not wear masks, we do not cancel travel plans. Another words, put it in perspective. By the way we returned on Tuesday after a month in Asia.
But the perspective of being stuck on a cruise ship Indefinitely because of a handful of confirmed cases is one which is really unshakable.
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Old 02-29-2020, 12:37 PM
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Thank you for trying to interject...some facts and perspective.

Yes, more people get and die from the flu...as of right now.

HOWEVER, the lethality of the coronovirus is 23 TIMES higher for those who get it...than the flu.


Coronavirus Lethality (click here)

True, but this is usually the case when a new virus or infectious disease breaks out. It takes time to gain an understanding of what is happening and how to combat it. The best recent example I can think of is the anthrax that popped up after 9/11. The first case in each city died. After that, we knew to start flouroquinolones for each case and suspected case and no one else died.
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Old 02-29-2020, 12:46 PM
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The new Coronavirus has far too many undefined risks to be certain about anything. Authorities don’t know its length of contagiousness nor its rate of serious illness or even a valid death rate. There is no vaccine, no reliable test kit, and no approved drug for treatment. There seems to be consensus that it is most deadly for older males most of whom got very sick within a few days. Does that sound like a good risk to take for fun?
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The new Coronavirus has far too many undefined risks to be certain about anything. Authorities don’t know its length of contagiousness nor its rate of serious illness or even a valid death rate. There is no vaccine, no reliable test kit, and no approved drug for treatment. There seems to be consensus that it is most deadly for older males most of whom got very sick within a few days. Does that sound like a good risk to take for fun?
No, but still probably about 100 times less risky than driving in The Villages
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Panic has set in locally. Lowe's, Ace and Sparr sold out of N95 masks used in sanding applications. Sales person at Sparr told me that one guy came in and bought the last of their stock of 200 masks. Lowe's said they had a panic rush yesterday and had to post an out of stock notice on the entrance doors. The media is in a frenzy and not putting the situation in perspective vis a vis flu, MERS and similar pandemic's.
I find it amazing that the doctors on TV are saying that only people who are sick should wear a mask. Really??? Who is listening to that advice?
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I find it amazing that the doctors on TV are saying that only people who are sick should wear a mask. Really??? Who is listening to that advice?
Hopefully everyone. The masks you buy at the store will generally prevent a sick person from spreading the virus, but aren't very good at stopping you from getting infected. Did you think they were telling you this to try and spread more infection????
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You may get on that cruise, but no guarantee when you will get off if someone gets a fever
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Anybody that Travels over seas right now & gets sick, sorry I can't feel sorry for them. Also just traveling by commercial airlines here in the states to me doesn't sound real safe either because you don't know where the plane has been or who's been on the plane that might of had the virus. You're right CHATBRAT, stay home....be safe!
Travelling to Greece, Spain, Germany, UK, in April bringing along Old Spice after shave as a precaution . Hoping for an upgrade to business class , plenty of seats so far.

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You may get on that cruise, but no guarantee when you will get off if someone gets a fever
You get a three week cruise for the price of a 7 day cruise.. Sounds like a deal.. lol
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Hopefully everyone. The masks you buy at the store will generally prevent a sick person from spreading the virus, but aren't very good at stopping you from getting infected. Did you think they were telling you this to try and spread more infection????
You would probably need a hazmat suit to not get sick. And what happens if you have to go to the bathroom or vomit while wearing one of these. And the cost of these is probably quite high.
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Old 02-29-2020, 09:23 PM
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Try and find masks the drug stores on line are all sold out. Amazon has them but u cant get them until March or April. Oh and by the way they are made in China
You only have to watch 5 mins of news to find out that mask do nothing, if not more harm if you are not sick. Please get the facts!!
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If masks don’t keep out some particles, then how do they filter dust & pollen?

Also, if normal masks don’t protect you from others who are sick then why do so many medical personnel wear them?

Last, if masks potentially do more harm than good, why has ever CDC interview been followed with a statement about how a mask shortage would adversely affect first responders and medical personnel’s ability to do their jobs?

Their logic is flawed so maybe masks are better than they say?
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Old 03-10-2020, 07:02 PM
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If masks don’t keep out some particles, then how do they filter dust & pollen?

Also, if normal masks don’t protect you from others who are sick then why do so many medical personnel wear them?

Last, if masks potentially do more harm than good, why has ever CDC interview been followed with a statement about how a mask shortage would adversely affect first responders and medical personnel’s ability to do their jobs?

Their logic is flawed so maybe masks are better than they say?
Nope. Medical personnel wear masks to prevent THEM from transmitting THEIR germs to susceptible patients and from patient to patient. And the CDC makes that statement so panicked people don't buy up all the masks that do them no good, but might prevent a surgeon from infecting an immunocompromised patient.

No flaw in logic at all
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If masks don’t keep out some particles, then how do they filter dust & pollen?

Also, if normal masks don’t protect you from others who are sick then why do so many medical personnel wear them?

Last, if masks potentially do more harm than good, why has ever CDC interview been followed with a statement about how a mask shortage would adversely affect first responders and medical personnel’s ability to do their jobs?

Their logic is flawed so maybe masks are better than they say?
I think dust and pollen particles are much bigger. At least the pollen has turned my car yellow, and I can see the dust under the bed.
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