[RRGuyNJ]

Originally Posted by AMB444

I know many here in TV are originally from NY and eastcoast so I'm sure there will be some good input...

It's been a looooong time since I visited NYC and always wanted to go back.

Is it true that NYC is getting very dangerous?

Have you been there recently? How safe did you feel?

Would be interesting to hear from those of you that grew up in NYC...and what your thoughts are on this subject. Also I've always been fascinated by the history of NYC so share stories of growing up there please if you would.

TIA

I used to work for the RR running trains into the city [14 yrs ago]. I stay in touch with a few coworkers that tell me it's ALOT worse now. Homeless people are more aggressive, random attacks are more often. I feel there are much better places in the US I would visit first.
We have a 3 week road trip coming up in Sept. Vegas to New Orleans, should prove to be interesting.
In any case, be safe and enjoy.

[Mrfriendly]

Originally Posted by AMB444

I know many here in TV are originally from NY and eastcoast so I'm sure there will be some good input...

It's been a looooong time since I visited NYC and always wanted to go back.

Is it true that NYC is getting very dangerous?

Have you been there recently? How safe did you feel?

Would be interesting to hear from those of you that grew up in NYC...and what your thoughts are on this subject. Also I've always been fascinated by the history of NYC so share stories of growing up there please if you would.

TIA

It’s safe. Just ask Mayor Adams.

[MikeN]

Been several times. Always feel like someone has their hand in my pocket. Never felt save. Being brought up in a large city I was always taught to be aware and careful but NYC is a totally different world

[Kelevision]

Originally Posted by AMB444

I know many here in TV are originally from NY and eastcoast so I'm sure there will be some good input...

It's been a looooong time since I visited NYC and always wanted to go back.

Is it true that NYC is getting very dangerous?

Have you been there recently? How safe did you feel?

Would be interesting to hear from those of you that grew up in NYC...and what your thoughts are on this subject. Also I've always been fascinated by the history of NYC so share stories of growing up there please if you would.

TIA

My brother, wife and 13 year old daughter went for a week over Christmas and had a blast. Though my niece is now into all the designer stuff after seeing the windows at Saks etc. They saw Hamilton, and did a bunch of things. I was there last year and am going back in Dec. I’ve lived there and work there on occasion. I love that city. Just to eat at amazing restaurants if nothing else.

[mickey100]

Originally Posted by AMB444

I know many here in TV are originally from NY and eastcoast so I'm sure there will be some good input...

It's been a looooong time since I visited NYC and always wanted to go back.

Is it true that NYC is getting very dangerous?

Have you been there recently? How safe did you feel?

Would be interesting to hear from those of you that grew up in NYC...and what your thoughts are on this subject. Also I've always been fascinated by the history of NYC so share stories of growing up there please if you would.

TIA

If you go to Orlando, I would certainly go to NYC.

[Caymus]

Originally Posted by Mrfriendly

It’s safe. Just ask Mayor Adams.

....or the National Guard needed in the subway.

[nordic tug]

Originally Posted by Pballer

Statistics show that NYC is safer than many of the big cities in Florida. Of course it is not safer than The Villages where most of the residents are too old to commit crime.

Not true that NYC is safer, NYPD has for too many years played with crime numbers like changing Burglary to Larceny , Rape to Assault and so on. Traffic and parking is outrageous, speed cameras all over with speed limits on the same road going up then down . Going there, good luck and be prepared for very high costs.

[jcreason5616]

My daughter lives on Central Park in Manhattan. Has been there 20 years. I travel there a few times a year. I feel safe and so does she. But as with anywhere, she is vigilant. She no longer rides the subway unless absolutely necessary. It’s a great city with lots of culture. However, if you haven’t visited recently you will be shocked at the price of a Broadway ticket!!!

[Randall55]

Originally Posted by jcreason5616

My daughter lives on Central Park in Manhattan. Has been there 20 years. I travel there a few times a year. I feel safe and so does she. But as with anywhere, she is vigilant. She no longer rides the subway unless absolutely necessary. It’s a great city with lots of culture. However, if you haven’t visited recently you will be shocked at the price of a Broadway ticket!!!

We visited a month ago. No plans to go back. You will be shocked at the price of EVERYTHING.

[flower7330@gmail.com]

I grew up across the Hudson in NJ and visited NYC all the time. So I'm familiar with the city. It has changed dramatically over the last 2 or decades.
I personally would not go back to the city because it is so dangerous. The reason is that no one that gets arrested is actually in jail for long. So there is no consequences to their actions.
There is a recent report about women getting punched in the face randomly for no reason what so ever. This is happening in the middle of the day with people around on the street.
If your going to go please be careful.

[kkingston57]

Originally Posted by AMB444

I know many here in TV are originally from NY and eastcoast so I'm sure there will be some good input...

It's been a looooong time since I visited NYC and always wanted to go back.

Is it true that NYC is getting very dangerous?

Have you been there recently? How safe did you feel?

Would be interesting to hear from those of you that grew up in NYC...and what your thoughts are on this subject. Also I've always been fascinated by the history of NYC so share stories of growing up there please if you would.

TIA

Will probably get a lot of opinions here. Only way to get a true sense is by getting the actual crime statistics and even they do not give an accurate depiction of what is going on. For example if the murder rate is up and most of the murders are family/spousal related, murder rates for others might be going down. We were there last June in the Financial District. Had a great time

[Windguy]

Originally Posted by MplsPete

3) This is the best of all possible worlds.

Thank you, Pangloss!

[Josephjmarchese]

Originally Posted by AMB444

I know many here in TV are originally from NY and eastcoast so I'm sure there will be some good input...

It's been a looooong time since I visited NYC and always wanted to go back.

Is it true that NYC is getting very dangerous?

Have you been there recently? How safe did you feel?

Would be interesting to hear from those of you that grew up in NYC...and what your thoughts are on this subject. Also I've always been fascinated by the history of NYC so share stories of growing up there please if you would.

TIA

Make no mistake, every city has its dangers. Watch the local news here and you’ll see lots of violence in and around Orlando. NYC has changed from the Fear City days of the 70s-80s. Today tourist areas are well patrolled and safe. Like any other place, if you cdecide to explore the wrong area you could find trouble. Anyone bringing a gun to protect themselves better be well trained in using one in crowded areas with innocent people on the streets. Also have a license that is valid in NYC, or you may see a dangerous place, Rikers Island. Every time you travel be aware of your surroundings and if you get lost or confused, ask a cop. They’re all over the place. My Son and his wife live in Manhattan and love the city like I do. To those of you who don’t like NYC, stay safe at home, they will not miss you. I meet friends and family there all the time and give them tours, I have them bring walking shoes because it’s the best way to get around midtown.
BTW I wanted to see the Grand Canyon and hope to do so this year! I heard some people fall in, but I’m still going!

[ThirdOfFive]

What can be said about NYC can most likely be said, to a greater or lesser extent, about most major metropolitan centers in America.

To quote Mark Twain, there are three kinds of untruths: "Lies, damned lies, and statistics". Of the three, I think that statistics are the worse; they can be fudged or manipulated to way whatever the manipulator wants them to say.

Several posts have mentioned how some cities and areas play with the statistics. Post #55 for example mentions changing rape to assault, burglary to larceny, etc. Unfortunately in many areas it goes deeper than that. In many cases it is all in how the words of the presenter are strung together. I remember reading an article a few months back (can't remember where) that stated (in paraphrase) "Minneapolis has seen a significant increase in property crime these last few years, but that is slowly starting to decline". One had to read a bit further down in the article to realize that what was meant, was that the rate of INCREASE has begun to decline--such crimes are still on the increase, just not as fast.

Another example: shoplifting in Minnesota is a crime: any property taken up to the value of $500 is a misdemeanor. $500 - $1,000 a gross misdemeanor. Anything over $1,000 in value can be prosecuted as a felony. A recent report in The Minnesota Reformer (Dec. 1, 2023) indicates that "Reported cases of shoplifting in Minneapolis and St. Paul have fallen considerably since the pre-pandemic period, according to the latest data from the Council on Criminal Justice, a nonprofit tracking crime figures". Well and good...except that it has become the unwritten practice in many areas in Minnesota, not just Minneapolis, to not even report shoplifting below the $1,000 level, and even when reported shoplifting is not commonly prosecuted to the point of a conviction. In other words, what the "numbers" say is becoming more and more divorced from reality as time passes. Contrast that to the reality here, in Sumter County, where arrests for shoplifting are common, even for amounts that would get you a belly laugh if reported to law enforcement in the MSP Metro. For instance, I read not too long ago in The Online Paper That Shall Not Be Named that a shoplifter at a local Wal-Mart had been identified and tracked down by the local law--for taking things total value around $60.00! It doesn't take any great perceptual skill to realize that comparing shoplifting statistics between Minneapolis (Hennepin County) vs. those of The Villages (Sumter County) is going to give the reader a completely erroneous picture of the frequency of actual crimes being committed.

A good rule of thumb (IMO anyway): if you're trying to judge how safe a certain metro area might be, check how strongly the police are supported and empowered by the local population of that area. That should tell you what you need to know.

[MaryMS]

Was there last summer, ride the subways a lot. No problems.