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[rubicon]

I read where some of you favored spaghetti agilio e olio, spaghetti with olive oil and garlic my mother's favorite and also my brother. It is surprise to experience the different flavors that different cuts of pasta have to a white brown or red sauce one is making. My favorite cuts are rigitoni, angel hair, penne,; although I find them all delicious. Since catholic were precluded from meat on Fridays mothers had to be somewhat inventive to stave off cooking the same old thing. My mother's pasta primevara was to die for carefully layered with cream warmed to just the right temperature. her home made pastas, riviloi, gnocchi and cavetelli derserving of a slow melting in your mouth in order to benefit from their flavors

And to return to the main theme of this thread the only time the words sauce and gravy were spoken during the same conversation had to do with the fact that two of the enteries would be pasta with red sauce and prime rib with au jus or brown gravy if you prefer...antipasta on the side

[skyguy79]

Originally Posted by senior citizen

No no no.

You call it GRAVY on SUNDAYS only.....maybe Monday too.

By at least Wednesday, you can call it sauce....only if all the meat is gone.

Datsa my schedule and I'ma stick'n by it. I'mma no gonna leta doesa who ride-a-da gravy train changa my minda!

[old moe]

when its made from an out side source like tomato, its always sauce,if its made from the juices of the product [ like meat]then its gravy.

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[rubicon]

Originally Posted by senior citizen

Kingdom of the Two Sicilies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Please click on above hyperlink and then keep scrolling all the way to the bottom. Kingdom of Two Sicilies information.

Also, Italy was once known as Lucania.

In doing my genealogy research the past decade, I also discovered what my dad had once told me that "Grandma" had French family.......as well as Greek ancestors. The Greeks were all over Laurenzana in the 11th and 12th centuries.......both of my Italian grandparents had Greek blood in them.

The region of Campania originally was a Greek settlement . My maternal grandfather emigrated from the ity of Foggia

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[2BNTV]

Loved your story. Pretty much the same with my family.

We called it gravy back in the 40's and 50's. Now we call it sauce so the rest of the world and I are on the same page.

Now matter what it's called, I loved it on macroni and or pasta.

Gotta go now as your post made me hungry.

[tommy steam]

Originally Posted by Rokinronda

My 100% Italian grandmother always made the Sunday gravy (tomato) with pork, beef, veal, braccioli, meatballs, and sausauge, etc...........
do you say gravy OR
do call it sauce??


GRAVY here!! LOL

Old school is Gravy..my Italian friends from the east up in NYC and the boston area call it gravy....I grew up with sauce....but I like it either way lol...

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[Josie70]

Originally Posted by Rokinronda

My 100% Italian grandmother always made the Sunday gravy (tomato) with pork, beef, veal, braccioli, meatballs, and sausauge, etc...........
do you say gravy OR
do call it sauce??


GRAVY here!! LOL

I call it sauce and I am 100% also...Gravy is brown....

[skyguy79]

Originally Posted by tommy steam

Old school is Gravy..my Italian friends from the east up in NYC and the boston area call it gravy....I grew up with sauce....but I like it either way lol...

I have a feeling that it depends on spacifically what part of Italy people migrated from.

My 4 grandparents and one step-grandmother all immigrated to the Albany NY area from Italy, south of Rome, and they always called it sugo, pronounced zoogoo. Translated to English sugo is sauce. I've never heard any of them, their many descendent's and even one aunt (by marriage) of Sicilian heritage ever call it gravy.

To be honest I rarely ever heard the term gravy used until I got on TOTV and heard several people say it's gravy. I even did Google searches on the two terms and go the following results:

"Gravy on Spaghetti" got 2,400 hits.
"Sauce on Spaghetti" got 50,900 hits.

...and if I used the term pasta instead of spaghetti, the sauce figure went up to 126,000 while gravy barely changed.

Although the usage of both terms are acceptable, the results of the search would seem to support that the term sauce is favored over gravy, 95% to 5%.

I'll concede this though... If you go and put spaghetti sauce over meatloaf, I'll then call it gravy!

[tpop1]

I guess its all what you grew up with.....

Grandpa & grandma were from Avligiano - Potenza provence Basciiacata - southeast of Naples up in the mountains

My Italian mother and the rest of the family made:
Tomato sauce,
Spagetti sauce,
Pizza sauce,
Marinara sauce, &
Meat sauce.

We did have gravy with:
The typical fatty pork roast we had (bettca' can't find one of those any more?)
Meatloaf,
Roasted chicken, and
Pot roast.....
but never, never with Macaroni!!!!(that's right we also never had Pasta just macaroni or sometimes spagetti!!)

Aha for the good times!!!

[mac9]

My Napolitano grandmother called it gravy. I would never disrespect her and call it sauce. My American-American spouse also calls it gravy.