[Escape Artist]

Originally Posted by I'm Popeye!

Why is it that "the Villages" close down Rec Centers, Pickle Ball and other activities during the height of late last year pandemic crisis.
But now that the situation is worst in Florida Rec Centers and Pickle Ball Courts still remain open.
Just wondering the motive and I come to this conclusion, IMHO
$ Its Greed $, "the Villages" management wants Snowbirds to return to the Villages.

As bad as the Delta variant might seem, in 2020 there was no vaccine available yet and everyone was at risk so precautions had to be taken, often times with extreme measure like closing businesses and amenities. Much was also unknown about the virus in terms of transmission so everybody was extra-cautious, even sanitizing items from the grocery stores (that were often being delivered). I lived in CA at the time and it was total lockdown except for essential services. During the holidays we were under a curfew as well.

Those were indeed dark times, so even though things can look bleak at the moment in terms of case numbers, because of vaccination rates, most people are either not contracting the virus or if they do, their symptoms are mild or moderate and do not require hospitalization. In other words, businesses don't have to be closed, they are advised to follow county and state guidelines.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by ithos

Yes , America was so much better off with so many stuck in our homes , no jobs, doing drugs, missing school and getting fatter. And we don't have to worry about the GDP since we can just print money.

I hope you did not watch any college games on TV. You might of had a nervous breakdown with the stadiums packed to the gills.

I tend to NOT watch games that I NO longer play. I played football in high school so I would watch games back then to try and learn how players superior to me did things. If someone were to give me either college or pro football tickets, I would gladly sell them to someone else at 1/2 price. I don't watch wrestling, boxing, Olympic weight lifting, curling, downhill skiing, dog racing, horse racing, motocross, Nascar, golf, dog shows, cowboy roping, cat juggling, and many other sports.

[Spalumbos62]

Originally Posted by Krice45

Why, if vaccinated you have nothing to worry about. 🙄 However, I know of those fully vaccinated still got Covid, my nephew 47 and his wife a nurse just got over a bad case of Covid after being fully vaccinated and he ended up in the hospital getting his heart shocked back into normal rhythm and had to return 24 hours later with the same problem now he will see a cardiologist on Thursday and he had no health issues prior to taking the vaccinations. Vaccinated or not vaccinated you can still get Covid so non vaccinated paid for these facilities the same as those who got the jab and has just as much right to be inside if they so choose 🙄🙄🙄

Sorry can't agree with you, you say non vax people paid into the cost of facilities equally as vaxed....not sure if that's correct, don't think they are all running on tax dollars, but, even if so, it's the non vax that are putting the demand and strain on these facilities. The cost to heal these people, or keep them alive is astronomical....so is it equal???? Is it fair???? Don't think so.

They are offered a free vax, proven to prevent.....they don't choose it.....pay the bill for the hospital!!!

[Spalumbos62]

Originally Posted by Krice45

Why, if vaccinated you have nothing to worry about. 🙄 However, I know of those fully vaccinated still got Covid, my nephew 47 and his wife a nurse just got over a bad case of Covid after being fully vaccinated and he ended up in the hospital getting his heart shocked back into normal rhythm and had to return 24 hours later with the same problem now he will see a cardiologist on Thursday and he had no health issues prior to taking the vaccinations. Vaccinated or not vaccinated you can still get Covid so non vaccinated paid for these facilities the same as those who got the jab and has just as much right to be inside if they so choose 🙄🙄🙄

I dont understand your post...you say nephew was vaxed, then got covid....was he just vaxed, or was this mths ago. He got covid,then discovered a heart issue....why do you say it was the shot? Maybe the covid caused it.....hence not steering people away from the shot, adding fear.
If the dr is saying that the vax gave him heart issues...well yes that should be stated, but being vague or ambiguous isn't helping. You should state which caused his issues, bc not identifying puts wrong thoughts out there. Js

Originally Posted by Goldwingnut

What you "suspect" is wrong, the district government that made/makes the decisions on the closure has nothing to do with home sales, resales, or anything else associated with the developer's business ventures. As I said above, the direction and guidance for the previous and future closure comes from the CDC and State and County medical officials.

I little education about and involvement with how The Villages community works and is structured by many of the posters here would go a long way in quelling the misinformation and false narratives posted here. Of course, for some, it must be that old green-eyed monster "Envy" raising its ugly head that speaks before finding out the facts of the situation. They'll believe only what they want to believe and be consumed by their own discontent.

The family has some dirty laundry you conveniently overlook. Then without knowing the facts of the situation you say those who disagree with your fan boy opinions are envious or discontented.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Goldwingnut

What you "suspect" is wrong, the district government that made/makes the decisions on the closure has nothing to do with home sales, resales, or anything else associated with the developer's business ventures. As I said above, the direction and guidance for the previous and future closure comes from the CDC and State and County medical officials.

I little education about and involvement with how The Villages community works and is structured by many of the posters here would go a long way in quelling the misinformation and false narratives posted here. Of course, for some, it must be that old green-eyed monster "Envy" raising its ugly head that speaks before finding out the facts of the situation. They'll believe only what they want to believe and be consumed by their own discontent.

Originally Posted by John41

The family has some dirty laundry you conveniently overlook. Then without knowing the facts of the situation you say those who disagree with your fan boy opinions are envious or discontented.

You are going to lose this debate…….

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by John41

The family has some dirty laundry you conveniently overlook. Then without knowing the facts of the situation you say those who disagree with your fan boy opinions are envious or discontented.

if you were more familiar with Goldwingnut's material, you'd understand that he is far from a sycophant for the Morse family. He often posts opinions at odds with "The Family's" spin.

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

But, that increased HUMAN experience is OFFSET by the fact that the Virus did NOT standstill. It mutated to the Delta variant, which is exponentially more dangerous than the earlier Alpha.

you speak in hyperbole. "Exponentially", in the math definition, is to say that something has increased 10 times. In common language it can mean "to increase a lot", but it sounds so much more drastic and impressive when you say "exponentially".

According to an article in the New York Times, referencing a Lancet study, "people who are infected with the Delta variant are at twice (2x) the risk of requiring hospitalization as those infected with the Alpha variant", and fewer than 2% of those infected with the Delta variant were fully vaccinated." This from a study of 40,000 patients infected with the Delta variant.
Here is the link...Risk of Hospitalization Doubles With Delta Variant, Study Finds - The New York Times

Significant? Yes. Exponential? Not in my book.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Originally Posted by John41

The family has some dirty laundry you conveniently overlook. Then without knowing the facts of the situation you say those who disagree with your fan boy opinions are envious or discontented.

share ??

[newgirl]

Because we have too many that listen to Fox instead of science and doctors.

[I'm Popeye!]

Originally Posted by newgirl

Because we have too many that listen to Fox instead of science and doctors.

W r o n g!
The Fox New Network recommends that its watchers take the Covid Vaccine, while also stressing Freedom of Choice.
You bring up Science and Doctors:
Science - COVID-19/Delta virus is NEW, no science.
Doctors - Keep flip-flopping, when are they right?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Laker14

you speak in hyperbole. "Exponentially", in the math definition, is to say that something has increased 10 times. In common language it can mean "to increase a lot", but it sounds so much more drastic and impressive when you say "exponentially".

According to an article in the New York Times, referencing a Lancet study, "people who are infected with the Delta variant are at twice (2x) the risk of requiring hospitalization as those infected with the Alpha variant", and fewer than 2% of those infected with the Delta variant were fully vaccinated." This from a study of 40,000 patients infected with the Delta variant.
Here is the link...Risk of Hospitalization Doubles With Delta Variant, Study Finds - The New York Times

Significant? Yes. Exponential? Not in my book.

I am sure you are correct in your math. I used the word exponentially in a more common "layman's" language as a way to illustrate that the Delta variant IS more dangerous than the Alpha. People NEED to adjust their RISK tolerance accordingly. I am guilty of using what is called "writers leniency" to use some degree of exaggeration to illustrate a point. I don't claim to be a professional writer. If I were writing for the NY Times then, I would feel compelled to be mathematically correct in my risk assessment. I am willing to be corrected. Being corrected is "GOOD" in that, it means that my exaggeration was, at minimum, somewhat provocative and thought provoking. So, sincerely, Thank you!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by newgirl

Because we have too many that listen to Fox instead of science and doctors.

I agree with the contents of this post.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by I'm Popeye!

You might not remember, does happen to older folks, but golf playing was NOT shut down during that period for me to mention, while Pickle Ball and Rec Centers were,,...

And why was that??? Money, money, mooony!

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by I'm Popeye!

Just an opinion post that I posted for you to get all Shook-up about.

You know what say about opinions? And beside’s aren’t all posts here opinionated?