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2 adult children and 12 year old moved in across the street.

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Old 08-09-2020, 06:35 PM
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There is, as you likely know, a prohibition on persons under 19 living in TV. Any person may visit for up to 30 days per year. So the 12 year old is allowed for up to 30 days. This rule is federal law in the definition of an adult age restricted community. Enforcement of the regulation is 100% up to the developer not the community.

There is no restriction on the number of persons 19-54 living here. There is a requirement that 80% of the homes must be owned by a person age 55+. Your neighbor's home sounds like it is owned by a senior. But I could own my home and have many young adults living in it and still be in full compliance and count toward the 80% number. I believe the only regulation TV has is that they will only issue 4 ID cards per address not that you cannot have more than 4 in the home.

As to what you can do about the 12 year old if she is a resident not a visitor.. if they are quiet and not disturbing you, one choice is to say hello and feel sorry for that child having to living in a community with no other children because of family or economic problems. Or you can complain to Community Standards after 30 days and ask for direction on how this issue can be resolved to your satisfaction. 352-751-3912

You can also email deedcompliance@districtgov.org Should you do so your email is subject to public disclosure if you care.

Here is the language on https://www.districtgov.org/departme...andardsFAQ.pdf

"Deed restrictions are declarations between the [Developer] and the Property Owner. Who can enforce the deed restrictions?
o Any property owner of any lot may seek to enforce external and internal restrictions against another property owner.
o The [Developer] may seek to enforce external and internal restrictions.
o The Village Community Development Districts through adopted Rule may enforce certain EXTERNAL restrictions that have been adopted by each Board to enforce as authorized by Chapter 190 of Florida Statutes.
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If you have a concern regarding internal deed restrictions such as underage children in the home, business in the home or the like, contact the Community Standards Department at 352-751-3912 or email deedcompliance@districtgov.org and the information will be forwarded to the Developer to address. "

Notice that only the Developer is involved in internal restrictions. [I have changed the word Declarant to its equivalent = Developer] Rumor has it that the Developer has shown little or no interest in addressing this issue in the past.

Our streets are public and there is no prohibition on overnight parking unless the parking impedes emergency vehicles.
I don’t think that is right. Why should it be allowed? Can’t us 55 and older have anything to ourselves? If I wanted to live around “families “ I would have just moved to a regular neighborhood. I didn’t realize say a mom in her 60’s can by a home and have like 3 of her adult children live with her! Why bother calling it a 55 and older community? Misleading and I am disappointed. Why pay for these extras when anyone can use them now.
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Old 08-10-2020, 06:36 AM
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I don’t think that is right. Why should it be allowed? Can’t us 55 and older have anything to ourselves? If I wanted to live around “families “ I would have just moved to a regular neighborhood. I didn’t realize say a mom in her 60’s can by a home and have like 3 of her adult children live with her! Why bother calling it a 55 and older community? Misleading and I am disappointed. Why pay for these extras when anyone can use them now.
The rule is any one can live here full time if they are 19 or older.
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Old 08-10-2020, 07:43 AM
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I don’t think that is right. Why should it be allowed? Can’t us 55 and older have anything to ourselves? If I wanted to live around “families “ I would have just moved to a regular neighborhood. I didn’t realize say a mom in her 60’s can by a home and have like 3 of her adult children live with her! Why bother calling it a 55 and older community? Misleading and I am disappointed. Why pay for these extras when anyone can use them now.
There is nothing misleading about the age requirements here. The Villages is following Federal Law. It is illegal to discriminate in the selling or renting of a home based on age. If that were the only law then an age restricted community could not exist. So an amendment to the 1968 Fair Housing Act was enacted in 1988 creating an exemption for senior living communities. It sets the requirement that 80% of homes must be occupied by one person age 55 or older [not owned as I previously wrote] The 1988 amendment required that the community have significant facilities and services designed for the elderly and actively verify that it was in compliance with the 80% requirement or face liability.

If you didn't understand the law that's on you. Nobody misled you.

In 1995 a new law removed the requirement that facilities be available and that the community actively monitor the ratio. The laws do allow a community to insist that all persons be 55 or above. Good luck finding such a place.
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Old 08-10-2020, 07:50 AM
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How many times in life have we jumped the gun and passed judgment on a situation before it actually happens? There has been no violation yet if I'm getting the entire picture. Maybe they are having some kind of difficulty in their family life or just had a loss and are circling the wagons to comfort one another contrary to COVID Rules or Suggestions.

Since the inventory of these quiet people has been taken perhaps there is a way you could find out how to assist them if they are having trouble instead of preparing to hammer them.

Rules are Rules I understand but these are special times. Think it through before you act. Good Luck.
I agree. As long as they aren't causing problems, I'd let it go for now. Many, many people are out of work and are struggling to make ends meet. Be a good Christian.
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I’m not going to feel sorry for turning in someone with a child . I would feel empathy if we were turning them out into an area of high priced homes and rents , that is not the case here . The villages homes. because of all the extra fees cost more then the same size home outside of villages . If you are going to take in children and god bless you for doing it , there are many cheaper and just as nice areas to live and still use many of the villages options . The added benefit is the child will grow up with friends, so talk to them or give them 30 or 60 days and then turn them in you’ll be doing the right thing for you and them
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We've had a coterie of renters moving in and out from the house across the street for a few years now. Whenever my wife peers out our window I say "what are you seeing, Gladys." Reminiscent of Gladys Kravitz from "Bewitched."
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one choice is to say hello and feel sorry for that child having to living in a community with no other children because of family or economic problems.
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I don’t think that is right. Why should it be allowed? Can’t us 55 and older have anything to ourselves? If I wanted to live around “families “ I would have just moved to a regular neighborhood. I didn’t realize say a mom in her 60’s can by a home and have like 3 of her adult children live with her! Why bother calling it a 55 and older community? Misleading and I am disappointed. Why pay for these extras when anyone can use them now.
So you did no due diligence before you bought here? This isn't something new so you should have been able to know that before you bought. Doesn't it make you wonder what else you didn't properly investigate that will give you another deer in the headlight look
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Old 08-11-2020, 06:07 PM
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So you did no due diligence before you bought here? This isn't something new so you should have been able to know that before you bought. Doesn't it make you wonder what else you didn't properly investigate that will give you another deer in the headlight look
So are you fan of people not following rules plainly spelled out.
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I’m not going to feel sorry for turning in someone with a child . I would feel empathy if we were turning them out into an area of high priced homes and rents , that is not the case here . The villages homes. because of all the extra fees cost more then the same size home outside of villages . If you are going to take in children and god bless you for doing it , there are many cheaper and just as nice areas to live and still use many of the villages options . The added benefit is the child will grow up with friends, so talk to them or give them 30 or 60 days and then turn them in you’ll be doing the right thing for you and them
If they are out of work, they can't afford rent somewhere else. Living with Mom and Dad might be the only option. We are in the middle of a pandemic. I think we need to think outside the box, and show some compassion and empathy. Hopefully for the family involved, it will be just temporary.
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If they are out of work, they can't afford rent somewhere else. Living with Mom and Dad might be the only option. We are in the middle of a pandemic. I think we need to think outside the box, and show some compassion and empathy. Hopefully for the family involved, it will be just temporary.
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Old 08-11-2020, 07:27 PM
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Anyone can file a complaint. The person who is bothered by the situation is usually the one to do it.
what a load of crap. Usually the person bothered by the complaint is worried the rules will be abused and those who think otherwise are more likely to break the rules.
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