[Sandy and Ed]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

No one in a golf cart "NEEDs" to go fast. They like to go fast. They want to go fast. They think breaking the law is a joke. They lack patience. They have a mental "kink" that makes them think they are some how special and the rules and laws don't apply to them. Whatever! If you're doing 19.9mph in your cart in the mmp lane and they think that you're a slug for not going faster, that is their problem! And their problem is mental. It truly that simple. If they are able to catch you, then they can pass you. You are not the problem. They are. 😉

Yeh, even so I would certainly enjoy it if they had a crack down once a month a pull some of the crazies off the road. Might encourage them to slow down. Probably would never happen for golf carts since I see many autos doing 55+ on Morse and Buena Vista. If rules aren’t enforced no wonder no one obeys them

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

True, but when you think about it, it is an idiotic law. The whole point is for the state to collect that registration fee for essentially the same cart to legally go 5 mph quicker. It is NOT a safety issue---after all, what do you think is more dangerous?---driving 45 through a 15 mph school zone or driving a cart 20.1 mph on a MMP?

Actually, I do NOT see it as an idiotic law. If one reads post # 42 it says that the Yamaha manual says that their golf car is DESIGNED for 15 MPH. As another post said - the bad brakes, suspension, and high center of gravity make the vehicle DANGEROUS at over 20 MPH. I think that The Villagers would be safer in the 35 MPH vehicles that need to be street licensed. The vehicle cost would probably not be much extra. The license plate cost and insurance would be an extra cost, but the added SAFETY of one's life is worth the cost. The vehicle would probably drive more comfortably than ANY golf car. It would have a lower center of gravity, so would be less likely to tip over compared to a golf car.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

We have a governor on our golf cart and almost every golf cart zips by us going well over 20 mph.

It seems like many Villagers have a need for speed.

That's the problem. People purchased homes in the Villages EXPECTING to be protected from CRIME. And the driving habits and speed manipulation of golf cars has BECOME so commonplace that the Villages SYSTEM has FAILED to protect residents from this CRIME.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Any time you become a part of a couple, group, organization, society, you give up some freedom. Humans are social animals. Very few are happy totally free and 100% alone.

That's why solitary confinement in prisons is the ultimate punishment for even the most hardened prisoner. We are social animals. That is why we react badly when our RIGHTS are squashed. In this case it is the right to SAFELY travel in a golf cart at a reasonable, established speed and NOT to be TAILGATED by the excessive speeders.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by UpNorth

So true. There is absolutely no reason for somebody to pass me when my lithium EZ-Go cart is factory set at 22mph and I am going at max speed. And I get passed on a regular basis.

As I have said, we need more Police. Golf car speeding may seem insignificant to some people, but it opens the door to more LAWLESSNESS. If nothing else it exposes a problem that is hard to solve. But, NOT TRYING to solve it is even worse !!!!!!

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Obviously, since you cannot move over when there is a car to your right, unless you know a way to move through the 4th spatial dimension. But as soon as you pass the vehicle in the right lane you MUST move over

Well, that is not what it says. It says if you are "overtaking". Which as far as I am concerned means that I can use my judgment as to when I am safe to re-enter the right lane. If there is another car in front of the car I just passed, and I am overtaking that car, I am not obligated to put myself into the slow lane so that the impatient jerk behind me who feels it's his right to go 20mph faster than the speed limit, rather than the 10 faster than I'm going, with his lights flashing, shooting me the middle finger, can pass me.

If I can, and when I feel it's safe to, I'll get over there. And I'll be sure to signal ahead of time so he knows not to aggressively pass me on the right the instant he can squeeze between my right rear fender and the front left fender of the car I've just overtaken.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

But will you feel the same when that impatient jerk has road rage and runs you into a ditch, or worse?

The idea is to prevent the impatient jerk by having the proper Police presence so that it FORCES the jerk to have patience. if there are too many impatient jerks operating in TVLand, it just proves my point that there is NOT enough Police presence. Besides Police, there are lower cost methods like Red Light Cameras and neighborhood cameras. And I know that some fool lawyers are against that. But those lawyers can afford private security and even their own bodyguards.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Yes, by all means. Let's post a police officer every 50 feet. Let's put cameras in every nook and cranny in the world. Let's make everyone carry "papers" They can dictate what to do, what to say and what to think. Sounds familiar??? Oh, wait, I did read that book.

Many residents already have cameras all around their homes because they feel that The Villages is lacking in protecting the residential neighborhoods. And what about Ring Cameras - they are selling well. Technology can prevent crimes without a society becoming a Police state. Small speeding crimes lead to more serious crimes.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by mikeycereal

Subject: golf cart speed
Question: I'm only going 19mph why is everyone passing me?
My solution: Might want to jack up your governor to 21-23. No one will know, no one will care. The "breaking the law stuff" is really a gray area as long as you aren't driving recklessly all over. It's the +25ers that some seem to get in a huff about. I just let em pass. But with more speed please have more responsibility. There's a doc in town who has treated numerous people from golf cart accidents, so try not to be one of them. You can get permanently messed up in a GC crash... can be life changing...like a car crash. Straightaways you can step on it when clear but slow down for those curves in the road and watch for other people.

As for wear and tear, yeah you'll have to replace worn governor parts sooner so I wouldn't jack it over 25.

This is why we need to agree to a speed limit like 20 MPH and put on enough Police to make enough roadside stops to KEEP people from this ever increasingly creeping up on their governor speeds.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Many golf carts in straightaways are going around 25-30. Some faster.

Problem identified. Why hasn't The Villages management types come up with a solution??????

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

30%????? Where do you live?????

In 10 years, I've seen maybe 2 carts go over 30, but I'm not sure about one of them. And while I've seen a bunch of carts go 25, very few of them are "reckless". I believe you are employing reductio ad absurdum

Actually, I see about 2 per hour going over 30 MPH on my residential street. You can even hear them because they are very much LOUDER than the 20 MPH ones. And it is both men and women drivers, so no bias there......equal rights to speeding. It has become so commonplace that it is under the radar of people's awareness.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

30%????? Where do you live?????

In 10 years, I've seen maybe 2 carts go over 30, but I'm not sure about one of them. And while I've seen a bunch of carts go 25, very few of them are "reckless". I believe you are employing reductio ad absurdum

25 MPH is by definition reckless and illegal. See why we need it WELL defined and supported by Police ticketing. Yamaha says anything over 15 MPH is more than golf cars are designed for. Why do we pick something like 25 MPH and PRETEND that it is OK.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Many residents already have cameras all around their homes because they feel that The Villages is lacking in protecting the residential neighborhoods. And what about Ring Cameras - they are selling well. Technology can prevent crimes without a society becoming a Police state. Small speeding crimes lead to more serious crimes.

Unreal. Ridiculous. Today someone drives their cart at 20.1, tomorrow a serial killer? Especially an eighty year old woman

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Actually, I see about 2 per hour going over 30 MPH on my residential street. You can even hear them because they are very much LOUDER than the 20 MPH ones. And it is both men and women drivers, so no bias there......equal rights to speeding. It has become so commonplace that it is under the radar of people's awareness.

Was that on a radar gun, or just one opinion

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Was that on a radar gun, or just one opinion

Do you really have to ask?