[MDFlyer]

Nobody has mentioned here, or anywhere I have seen, but If your "golf cart" can exceed 19.8 MPH you are subject to a lawsuit that could cost you your home and more if you are involved in an accident. Also, you are subject to criminal charges for operating an unlicensed motor vehicle. You cannot win in court with either of these cases. The speed doesn't have to have anything to do with the accident either if your cart can exceed the speed it is certified for and that is 19.8 MPH. Are you willing to risk this for a few MPH?

[Switter]

My only concern when it comes to the speed of golf carts on the MMPs is that I ride bike on them.

My biggest problem is that far too often I have people passing me on blind corners. I'm just waiting for one of them to cut me off when they have to abruptly get back in the lane. I guarantee you they're not gonna be thinking about me. I'm not sure why retired people are in such a hurry, lol.

I have mostly learned to accept it and just ride defensively because speed limits anywhere are rarely enforced anymore. However, I decided to get a GoPro in case I ever need to take legal action against someone.

I get the need for speed. I love going fast. But there is a time in a place for it.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by MDFlyer

Nobody has mentioned here, or anywhere I have seen, but If your "golf cart" can exceed 19.8 MPH you are subject to a lawsuit that could cost you your home and more if you are involved in an accident. Also, you are subject to criminal charges for operating an unlicensed motor vehicle. You cannot win in court with either of these cases. The speed doesn't have to have anything to do with the accident either if your cart can exceed the speed it is certified for and that is 19.8 MPH. Are you willing to risk this for a few MPH?

You may want to research that further. If I'm not mistaken, in Florida, your primary residence, your retirement savings and college savings are all protected against a civil judgement, unless you had malicious intent. And you're not very likely to get charged criminally either, unless you really PO the officer. And you can always win in court, sometimes.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Switter

My only concern when it comes to the speed of golf carts on the MMPs is that I ride bike on them.

My biggest problem is that far too often I have people passing me on blind corners. I'm just waiting for one of them to cut me off when they have to abruptly get back in the lane. I guarantee you they're not gonna be thinking about me. I'm not sure why retired people are in such a hurry, lol.

I have mostly learned to accept it and just ride defensively because speed limits anywhere are rarely enforced anymore. However, I decided to get a GoPro in case I ever need to take legal action against someone.

I get the need for speed. I love going fast. But there is a time in a place for it.

Agree. And that is doubly true for pedestrians when some idiot takes a blind curve at full speed without looking ahead.

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Actually, we do. Florida law states that on roads posted over 60 mph, a car in the left lane that is being overtaken from behind MUST move over. Even if one is going 90, and the car behind wants to go 100, you MUST move over. Why???? Because you don't have any idea why that guy is going that fast---he may be a jerk, but he might be in the middle of an emergency. The point is that you DON'T KNOW, and it is not up to YOU to dictate his speed to him, that's why we have LEOs. That's existing law. There is also a pending law that would make it illegal to just cruise in the left lane when not passing anyone, regardless of speed. Again, it baffles me why so many, even on this site, think of them as self-appointed guardians of the speed limit. When someone wants to pass, just let them. I get passed all the time, and sometimes pass others. It's no big deal.

PS: Florida law also states that when you are getting passed, it is illegal to speed up to prevent it. You MUST maintain your same speed until the other vehicle has passed you. For all those self-appointed LEOs, I'd love to see enforcement of the laws I just stated above.

to further clarify, the following is cut and pasted from the Florida statutes. It clarifies a point I've often wondered about, and that is if I, in the car in the leftmost lane must move over to allow an overtaking car to pass, if I am overtaking traffic in the lane to my right.
Evidently, I do not need to move over until I am done overtaking traffic.

(3) On a road, street, or highway having two or more lanes allowing movement in the same direction, a driver may not continue to operate a motor vehicle in the furthermost left-hand lane if the driver knows or reasonably should know that he or she is being overtaken in that lane from the rear by a motor vehicle traveling at a higher rate of speed. This subsection does not apply to drivers operating a vehicle that is overtaking another vehicle proceeding in the same direction, or is preparing for a left turn at an intersection.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Laker14

to further clarify, the following is cut and pasted from the Florida statutes. It clarifies a point I've often wondered about, and that is if I, in the car in the leftmost lane must move over to allow an overtaking car to pass, if I am overtaking traffic in the lane to my right.
Evidently, I do not need to move over until I am done overtaking traffic.

(3) On a road, street, or highway having two or more lanes allowing movement in the same direction, a driver may not continue to operate a motor vehicle in the furthermost left-hand lane if the driver knows or reasonably should know that he or she is being overtaken in that lane from the rear by a motor vehicle traveling at a higher rate of speed. This subsection does not apply to drivers operating a vehicle that is overtaking another vehicle proceeding in the same direction, or is preparing for a left turn at an intersection.

Obviously, since you cannot move over when there is a car to your right, unless you know a way to move through the 4th spatial dimension. But as soon as you pass the vehicle in the right lane you MUST move over

[gorillarick]

I can tell when a cart is going well over 20mph.
They are weaving in and out of the golf cart lane.
These vehicles were made for 15mph (golf course use).

20 is pushing it, but ok. Over 20 is unstable.
Don't argue; it is obvious watching you.

[gorillarick]

Recently took the Mature Driving Course for an insurance discount.
Worth taking.

Florida Law: If you have to exceed the speed limit to pass, it is illegal. Hmmmpt.
Shocked, but makes sense. Speeding is speeding.
Dangerous is dangerous.

[barbief]

Originally Posted by bsloan1960

There are signs specifically aimed at carts on some roads, "No Carts Beyond This Point", but none on sign posts with a 25 mpg speed limit sign. The only reason I go 20 mph in my cart is because someone told me that was the limit. When I go 20 in the diamond lane I nearly always have someone riding my bumper. So. Are we just supposed to Know the speed limit is 20 in a cart- and is it?

20 is the speed limit for golf carts, but there are some that are too impatient to adhere to that, just like the cars on the roads. There are WAY too many accidents and near misses because some think that the speed limit is a suggestion rather than a law.

[Switter]

Originally Posted by gorillarick

Recently took the Mature Driving Course for an insurance discount.
Worth taking.

Florida Law: If you have to exceed the speed limit to pass, it is illegal. Hmmmpt.
Shocked, but makes sense. Speeding is speeding.
Dangerous is dangerous.

I have Allstate insurance for my car. I installed an app that somehow must monitor my driving. My insurance premium went down $177. People respond to financial incentives!

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Switter

I have Allstate insurance for my car. I installed an app that somehow must monitor my driving. My insurance premium went down $177. People respond to financial incentives!

I don’t speed, but there is no way I’m inviting Big Brother into my car for $177, at least not until I move to Oceania

[nn0wheremann]

Originally Posted by Laker14

If you want to never get passed by a non-street legal cart, you'll have to get yours juiced up to go 30. I have paced (in my car) more than one cart (not street legal) going 30. I am not recommending you do that. I'm pretty sure it's not great for the cart, and I wouldn't trust the handling characteristics of a golf cart at that speed.

Some people need to go fast. I am fine at 20. I wouldn't be surprised if under certain conditions mine might exceed 20, but that's every bit as fast as I want to go in a golf cart.

The Yamaha gas cart owners manual specifies a max safe speed of 15 mph. So 20 mph is already 33% over design limit. 30 mph is 100% in excess of what the manufacturer indicates the suspension and brakes are designed to.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by MDFlyer

Nobody has mentioned here, or anywhere I have seen, but If your "golf cart" can exceed 19.8 MPH you are subject to a lawsuit that could cost you your home and more if you are involved in an accident. Also, you are subject to criminal charges for operating an unlicensed motor vehicle. You cannot win in court with either of these cases. The speed doesn't have to have anything to do with the accident either if your cart can exceed the speed it is certified for and that is 19.8 MPH. Are you willing to risk this for a few MPH?

I can point to Florida law 320.01(22) which gives 20mph. Where does the 19.8 MPH number come from?

[Switter]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I don’t speed, but there is no way I’m inviting Big Brother into my car for $177, at least not until I move to Oceania

I don't consider a private insurance company "big brother" (as long as it's not a monopoly and I have other options). I consider big brother the government.

[mrf6969]

20 years of posts about this very subject so here we go again. Golf carts are manufactured for golf courses ONLY. The way we use them here in TV is putting these carts way beyond what they are intended to be used for. The most important thing to remember is that the brakes on all these carts are designed to stop the cart at very low speeds like around 10 MPH. Good luck going 25 MPH and you have to stop fast. You are an accident waiting to happen.