Can't wait to hear about the next center of T V. Eastport is getting old lol.

[Normal]

Originally Posted by GizmoWhiskers

Can't wait to hear about the next center of T V. Eastport is getting old lol.

At least 15 years before it catches Spanish Springsitus?

[frayedends]

If I'm looking at the maps correctly is this a new village being put in below Green Grove Hill and just east of Water's Edge villages. Is that correct?

Can't past the article but if you search "Magistrate approves site plan for 3,700 more homes in The Villages" you will find the article easy enough.

ETA I'm a bit confused because the article says it's north of Middleton. That would be the prison area, no? But the map in the article seems to show it more east of what we already knew in Continuing the Dream. Hard to tell without full sized maps and trying to piece it together. There is a map lower in the article which seems to show the position a bit better, but hard to zoom. Also seems to be east of Water's Edge and Shady Brook.

[Goldwingnut]

Originally Posted by Normal

It may be time to break up fire protection services and remove it from the county plate. The only thing that complicates this is the unincorporated section which would have to rely on county centered services. If you pay Wildwood, Fruitland Park, or Leesburg taxes, you are covered. The shortfall would have to be made up by unincorporated tax payers for their own service.

The issue is ugly, but sooner or later it needs fixed. The overlapped 124 dollar a year tax is an outgrown bandage.

Just having the county control it all is well outdated and impractical. The NEW Villages Dependent District formulated by the county would be a game changer for legal actions and logistical grounds to get back our community to be run by its citizens.

Where have you been for the last 2 years on this topic? Sumter County Board of County Commissioners 2 weeks ago took the final actions to create the Villages Public Safety Dependent District culminating and closing the book on the Fire Department issues in Sumter County and The Villages.

Beginning on 1 October 2024 the Sumter County and VPSD will be funded independent of each other allowing the two departments to provide the services uniquely needed for their service areas. The separate funding models allow the different levels of service without the inherent conflicts that arise from the use of a single funding model.

VPSD operates within a defined boundary within Sumter County that includes all of the Sumter County sections of The Villages (developed and undeveloped) as well as several enclaves within those boundaries where logic dictated that these non-Villages areas are better and more logically served by VPSD instead of SCFEMS. Additionally, VPSD has operating agreements (including compensation) with Marion County, Lake County, Fruitland Park, Lady Lake, and now (I believe) Leesburg to provide fire and EMS services to the non-Sumter Count portions of The Villages.

With the exception of a few rural properties who pay no county property taxes due to the low land values and applied exemptions, nobody in Sumter County pays $125/year for fire services. This is a myth and false political talking point used by the POA and V-N website to further their misguided agendas of sowing hate and discontent against the business communities of Sumter County and of course the developer of The Villages.

The $125 generates less than 25% of the revenue needed to fund the operations of the two fire departments in Sumter County. The remaining funding comes from the General Fund of the Sumter County budget. This represents about 30% of the General Fund expenditures annually. This translates to each developed property paying $125 plus 30% of their annual county property tax for fire and EMS services. For me personally, that translates to about $875 for this year. For a business it's the same. During the budget issues over the last few months claims were made that the 6 properties than comprise the commercial sections of Brownwood only paid $750/year combined for fire services, this is not only false, its was known by the entities making this claim that it was false (yes that means that they were lying about this). The Brownwood properties with their 30% property tax contribution pay $750 plus approximately $200,000 per year for fire services. The Lofts properties also pay a similar amount. It is the same for all businesses in Sumter County.

For those not familiar with how a business runs its finances here's a fact for you. Businesses don't pay taxes. They collect taxes and pass them on to the government assessing the taxes. Taxes to a business are treated the same as labor, material, energy, and every other cost that is incurred to operate their business, make their product, and/or provide their service. These are all added together and then marked up for the final price their customer will pay. The taxes don't come out of the profits, they are paid before profits are determined.

Wildwood doesn't have a fire department, they a covered by either SCFEMS or VPSD depending on the location, their budget (taxes paid to them by city residents) does not cover fire serices. I can't speak to the Fruitland Park and Leesburg fire services because I haven't taken the time to look into them, I've been more than busy with the fire services for Sumter County, The Villages, and the 5 municipalities that make up Sumter County for the last year and a half.

Quality fire services in The Villages and Sumter County are not an issue, and thankfully or at least for the time being, no longer is their funding.

[Goldwingnut]

Originally Posted by frayedends

If I'm looking at the maps correctly is this a new village being put in below Green Grove Hill and just east of Water's Edge villages. Is that correct?

ETA I'm a bit confused because the article says it's north of Middleton. That would be the prison area, no? But the map in the article seems to show it more east of what we already knew in Continuing the Dream. Hard to tell without full sized maps and trying to piece it together.

The area is along the Sumter-Lake county line just south of CR470. It is east of the Middleton area. This area is a part of the new areas of The Villages (continuing the dream) and has been since the acquisition of the property several years ago. They do sections at a time for permitting, planning, and construction purposes, that's all you are seeing in the news. This area is still about 5 years from being a viable "Village" and part of the community.

[frayedends]

Originally Posted by Goldwingnut

The area is along the Sumter-Lake county line just south of CR470. It is east of the Middleton area. This area is a part of the new areas of The Villages (continuing the dream) and has been since the acquisition of the property several years ago. They do sections at a time for permitting, planning, and construction purposes, that's all you are seeing in the news. This area is still about 5 years from being a viable "Village" and part of the community.

That makes sense. The article stating "north of Middleton" was confusing. Other than that we knew the land was owned by the Villages. Southern Oak village wasn't on our continuing the dream maps yet, which makes sense if they hadn't yet gotten approval.

[bsloan1960]

Originally Posted by Veiragirl

Sad. We are quickly losing the feeling of THE VILLAGES. It's too big and spread out. Why don't the Morses just buy the whole state of Florida? It's called Power and Greed

No. It is Capitalism. And it is a system that works for middle class people like us who live in The Villages. Businesses exist to stay in business and to grow. The desire to grow a business is not greed- it comes from the human desire to build and have ones ideas of creativity come to fruition. It is pride in an accomplishment. It is the challenge to take an existing business that might otherwise become stagnant- and infuse it with new, creative ideas and see it continue to flourish. It is cheering, and telling yourself, "Well done"! when an insurmountable problem gives way to inspirational solutions.

[Normal]

Originally Posted by Goldwingnut

Where have you been for the last 2 years on this topic? Sumter County Board of County Commissioners 2 weeks ago took the final actions to create the Villages Public Safety Dependent District culminating and closing the book on the Fire Department issues in Sumter County and The Villages.

Beginning on 1 October 2024 the Sumter County and VPSD will be funded independent of each other allowing the two departments to provide the services uniquely needed for their service areas. The separate funding models allow the different levels of service without the inherent conflicts that arise from the use of a single funding model.

VPSD operates within a defined boundary within Sumter County that includes all of the Sumter County sections of The Villages (developed and undeveloped) as well as several enclaves within those boundaries where logic dictated that these non-Villages areas are better and more logically served by VPSD instead of SCFEMS. Additionally, VPSD has operating agreements (including compensation) with Marion County, Lake County, Fruitland Park, Lady Lake, and now (I believe) Leesburg to provide fire and EMS services to the non-Sumter Count portions of The Villages.

With the exception of a few rural properties who pay no county property taxes due to the low land values and applied exemptions, nobody in Sumter County pays $125/year for fire services. This is a myth and false political talking point used by the POA and V-N website to further their misguided agendas of sowing hate and discontent against the business communities of Sumter County and of course the developer of The Villages.

The $125 generates less than 25% of the revenue needed to fund the operations of the two fire departments in Sumter County. The remaining funding comes from the General Fund of the Sumter County budget. This represents about 30% of the General Fund expenditures annually. This translates to each developed property paying $125 plus 30% of their annual county property tax for fire and EMS services. For me personally, that translates to about $875 for this year. For a business it's the same. During the budget issues over the last few months claims were made that the 6 properties than comprise the commercial sections of Brownwood only paid $750/year combined for fire services, this is not only false, its was known by the entities making this claim that it was false (yes that means that they were lying about this). The Brownwood properties with their 30% property tax contribution pay $750 plus approximately $200,000 per year for fire services. The Lofts properties also pay a similar amount. It is the same for all businesses in Sumter County.

For those not familiar with how a business runs its finances here's a fact for you. Businesses don't pay taxes. They collect taxes and pass them on to the government assessing the taxes. Taxes to a business are treated the same as labor, material, energy, and every other cost that is incurred to operate their business, make their product, and/or provide their service. These are all added together and then marked up for the final price their customer will pay. The taxes don't come out of the profits, they are paid before profits are determined.

Wildwood doesn't have a fire department, they a covered by either SCFEMS or VPSD depending on the location, their budget (taxes paid to them by city residents) does not cover fire serices. I can't speak to the Fruitland Park and Leesburg fire services because I haven't taken the time to look into them, I've been more than busy with the fire services for Sumter County, The Villages, and the 5 municipalities that make up Sumter County for the last year and a half.

Quality fire services in The Villages and Sumter County are not an issue, and thankfully or at least for the time being, no longer is their funding.

Yep, totally get it. I know the new board has a lot of virgin ground to break. The Villages Fire department, will then be a separate funding issue from Wildwood taxes? Where Wildwood already incorporates a rate to fund Sumter for fire? Why pay Wildwood and a separate fee? Actual Wildwood residents get a free ride off of Villages residents? Maybe Wildwood steps up and serves its residents with fire?

There is a crack in Wildwood’s foundation. Will they still expect county coverage? A large part of the Villages is Wildwood! Entitled through taxes to be treated equally.

[Indydealmaker]

Originally Posted by Veiragirl

Sad. We are quickly losing the feeling of THE VILLAGES. It's too big and spread out. Why don't the Morses just buy the whole state of Florida? It's called Power and Greed

It's called growing a successful business.

[Justputt]

To the developer's credit, even in the older sections, the grass is cut, shrubs cared for, flowers planted, and everything is well maintained. Too many developers just move on when an area is built out and then decay sets in, but not in TV! One thing that impressed my wife and I is how well things are maintained as they age. The developer is even going back into older areas and updating facilities. That gives us comfort.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Originally Posted by Veiragirl

Sad. We are quickly losing the feeling of THE VILLAGES. It's too big and spread out. Why don't the Morses just buy the whole state of Florida? It's called Power and Greed

I’ve had a home here off and on since 2001 , it was a nice place to live for a few months a year anything more was boring , it’s a much better place now with so much more to do .

[rsimpson]

Originally Posted by HandyGrandpap

Per article:
A site plan for up to 3,700 homes on about 1,483 acres in the Villages of Southern Oaks was recommended for approval Tuesday by Special Magistrate Lindsay C.T. Holt at a meeting of the Wildwood Planning and Zoning Board.

Wildwood has authorized construction of nearly 50,000 homes south of State Road 44 in Southern oaks, which will nearly double the size of The Villages north of SR 44 when they are completed.

Eventually, The Villages is expected to reach State Road 48 at the city limits of Center Hill.

https://www.**************.com/2023/...oogle_vignette

Been a bit skimpy on Executive Courses in the Sawgrass Grove and Newell areas!

Let's Go Morse family. A bit light in the ratio of new homes to new courses.

[Mollusk29]

Originally Posted by HandyGrandpap

Per article:
A site plan for up to 3,700 homes on about 1,483 acres in the Villages of Southern Oaks was recommended for approval Tuesday by Special Magistrate Lindsay C.T. Holt at a meeting of the Wildwood Planning and Zoning Board.

Wildwood has authorized construction of nearly 50,000 homes south of State Road 44 in Southern oaks, which will nearly double the size of The Villages north of SR 44 when they are completed.

Eventually, The Villages is expected to reach State Road 48 at the city limits of Center Hill.

https://www.**************.com/2023/...oogle_vignette

Too many homes on too little acreage. It boggles my mind why people want to live on top of each other.

[Nana2Teddy]

Originally Posted by Goldwingnut

The area is along the Sumter-Lake county line just south of CR470. It is east of the Middleton area. This area is a part of the new areas of The Villages (continuing the dream) and has been since the acquisition of the property several years ago. They do sections at a time for permitting, planning, and construction purposes, that's all you are seeing in the news. This area is still about 5 years from being a viable "Village" and part of the community.

Can’t wait for your next video, Don. Much has progressed since your last one. Merry Christmas! 😊

[KJ1325]

Why is it for a medical emergency they send an ambulance/rescue squad, fire truck, and sometimes a pick up? A total of sometimes 6 people. Are all 6 people working on the patient? I'm not being critical but this seems a bit overkill and potentially wasting money. I know in Ohio when we had a medical emergency it typically involved a recue squad and that's it. Does Florida have some sort of a law that requires this much response?