[Sherry8bal]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SGN-Q5KRC8

Claiming 900 miles on charge. Now we’re talking!!! If affordable for masses?

I don't believe it for one minute. Sounds like propaganda to get more people to buy these outrageously priced electric cars. They only want you to buy them because too many "fat cats" have millions invested in them all over the country. The batteries and the cars themselves have been proven to not be good for the environment - it's all about money!

[Blackbird45]

Originally Posted by MrChipster

Not even addressing the fact that most landlords will not be willing or potentially able to put charging stations and metering into every parking location for their tenants.

That might not be the fact, a third party might lease the parking spot area from the landlord to put a charging stations in place and maintain it if they believe it is profitable.
The third party might even be the electric companies themselves.

[OhioBuckeye]

Michael, people don’t realize how expensive it is to own an electric vehicle. I think it’ll be a while before an electric car will get 900 to 1,000 miles. Make sure you do your homework very extensively. There’s a lot more expenses to own an electric car than they’re telling you. I’m not an expert on electric cars, but retired from a Auto Plant after 38 yrs. helped! Like I tell everybody, do what you want but don’t cry about it after you spend lots of money on one.Do your homework!

[Blackbird45]

Originally Posted by MrChipster

Were we not an energy (fossil fuel) net exporter just 15 months ago?

But we are not totally depended on oil and gas alone. We are not attacking other countries and we are not chopping up reporters we don't like.

[Vermilion Villager]

Originally Posted by MrChipster

Were we not an energy (fossil fuel) net exporter just 15 months ago?

And why was that????
Answer: Because 15 months ago there was this little thing called a pandemic (maybe you heard of it....almost 1 million Americans died from in less than 2 years)
Anyways..... that pandemic shut everything down and nobody was driving their cars hence not using gas.
Now imaging how we could get back to that export status again without a virus?
Answer: Americans don't use gas.
And how would they do that?
Answer: By driving vehicles that don't use gas.

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by Sherry8bal

I don't believe it for one minute. Sounds like propaganda to get more people to buy these outrageously priced electric cars. They only want you to buy them because too many "fat cats" have millions invested in them all over the country. The batteries and the cars themselves have been proven to not be good for the environment - it's all about money!

Why would they promote something they can't sell? Tesla is back ordered almost a year.

Batteries and cars are bad for the environment, and Vaccines have trackers in them - about the same.

[MrChipster]

Originally Posted by Blackbird45

That might not be the fact, a third party might lease the parking spot area from the landlord to put a charging stations in place and maintain it if they believe it is profitable.
The third party might even be the electric companies themselves.

Feel free to invest your own private dollars in that program…

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager

And why was that????
Answer: Because 15 months ago there was this little thing called a pandemic (maybe you heard of it....almost 1 million Americans died from in less than 2 years)
Anyways..... that pandemic shut everything down and nobody was driving their cars hence not using gas.
Now imaging how we could get back to that export status again without a virus?
Answer: Americans don't use gas.
And how would they do that?
Answer: By driving vehicles that don't use gas.

Isn't it investing that many (most) of the COVID deniers are also anti EV. Not all, but it does seem like most. And it is also interesting to me to hear the wording - "They are not going to FORCE me to wear a mask or get a vaccine" and They are not going to FORCE me to buy an EV, they are FORCING kids to learn about CRT". It seems a lot of people feel they are being forced about a lot of things.".

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye

Michael, people don’t realize how expensive it is to own an electric vehicle. I think it’ll be a while before an electric car will get 900 to 1,000 miles. Make sure you do your homework very extensively. There’s a lot more expenses to own an electric car than they’re telling you. I’m not an expert on electric cars, but retired from a Auto Plant after 38 yrs. helped! Like I tell everybody, do what you want but don’t cry about it after you spend lots of money on one.Do your homework!

OKay, so, you claim there are hidden expenses to owning an EV. Then don't tell us. It seems it would be easy enough to list a few of them if there are a lot.

Then you say you are not an expert, but worked in an Ice factory. Helped! (not sure why that matters or what it means.)

On the other hand, numerous Tesla owners have posted on these constantly repeating threads, and in EVERY case they are more than satisfied at how inexpensive the EVs are to own.

Police departments (obviously hard on cars) are testing Tesla's and in every case are happy with the cost savings and are typically ordering more to replace the ICE vehicles they traditionally used. Schools are buying EV Buses because they are so my more Inexpensive to own and operate. And on and on.

But, "THEY are not telling us the truth"

Hmmm, who to believe.

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by flyboyl39

Your individual experience does not make me incorrect . There are people that have driven their gas vehicles 400000 miles without a major repair ,,, does that mean they all will ??? My son is a wholesale car buyer for one of the major automotive retailers, it is a known fact among those that buy cars for a living. They bought a 5 yr old 300 mile range Tesla 6 months ago,,, it now has a 230 mile range fully charged .

Any car dealers offering a 400,000 mile warranty on the engine? No? Why? And that is ONE case - to quote you

Any EV companies offering a 150,000 warranty on batteries? OH, year, they are. I don't know if the battery warranty is transferable on Tesla's but regardless of age, they have a 100,000 to 150,000 mile warranty. Since the example you quoted was a USED car, we have no way of knowing what use it had been put to, how it had been abused or anything.

I am fairly certain if I said, I both a USED 5 year old ICE (you pick the brand) and complained about it, you would say, you get what you pay for when buying used.

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

So, you cherry picked the article... (P.S. You also ignored Natural Gas...)

No, their post specifically said OIL. And was perfectly accurate. There are several fossil fuels sources, but OIL is the only (in real practice) one that produces gasoline. So, OIL is the only one pertinent to this discussion. I would suggest you are the one being nit picky.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

What was being quoted is what Tesla says in their warranty, ie. the battery will charge to at least 70% of its original charge up to 1xx,xxx miles (depending on model).

Like any warranty, Tesla is being conservative. If they didn't then they would face lawsuits as soon as one failed to perform.

I have not seen ONE post in numerous threads here and everywhere that a Tesla owner said they were dissatisfied with their car on any front (other than some build and fit issues in early models). Instead it is people that don't own them, saying how terrible they are.

There not old enough yet.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

No, their post specifically said OIL. And was perfectly accurate. There are several fossil fuels sources, but OIL is the only (in real practice) one that produces gasoline. So, OIL is the only one pertinent to this discussion. I would suggest you are the one being nit picky.

Natural gas is bi-product of crud oil. Coal crud oil turned to shale. Fossil fuel ALL three. Crud oil makes up big part of manufacturing anything green.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

Any car dealers offering a 400,000 mile warranty on the engine? No? Why? And that is ONE case - to quote you

Any EV companies offering a 150,000 warranty on batteries? OH, year, they are. I don't know if the battery warranty is transferable on Tesla's but regardless of age, they have a 100,000 to 150,000 mile warranty. Since the example you quoted was a USED car, we have no way of knowing what use it had been put to, how it had been abused or anything.

I am fairly certain if I said, I both a USED 5 year old ICE (you pick the brand) and complained about it, you would say, you get what you pay for when buying used.

I have never worn out gasoline burning vehicle new or used. I just got tired of them and had to have something else. But, I know where the dip stick and valve stems are. Most people don’t keep vehicle long enough to change oil let along ware one out. It be same with electric they trade every 3 years.

[Blackbird45]

Originally Posted by MrChipster

Feel free to invest your own private dollars in that program…

I am invested in Sothern Electric.
I believe electricity will be the fuel for now until something else comes along.