[rustyp]

How is this idea to keep residents happy while not impacting the merchants with any type of outsider banning.

Convert the Rialto theater into a resident only club complete with restaurant, bar, and entertainment. Perhaps live entertainment three times per day. One would need to show Villages ID to enter. A guest could accompany a resident with a valid rec center guest pass. It could be Taco Mac's north without the movies. Would also eliminate the pink plywood nightmare that seems to be a permanent part of downtown SS decor.

[Velvet]

We tried going to the squares a few time each year, had a hard time finding a place to park the cart. Even if we found a place to park, over crowding all over the place. We don’t even think of going to the squares any more.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Velvet

We tried going to the squares a few time each year, had a hard time finding a place to park the cart. Even if we found a place to park, over crowding all over the place. We don’t even think of going to the squares any more.

When the snowbirds fly north for the summer squares not so crowded. Better when sawgrass finally opens.

And this is not a complaint about snowbirds we deal with the crowds

[Carla B]

Originally Posted by rustyp

How is this idea to keep residents happy while not impacting the merchants with any type of outsider banning.

Convert the Rialto theater into a resident only club complete with restaurant, bar, and entertainment. Perhaps live entertainment three times per day. One would need to show Villages ID to enter. A guest could accompany a resident with a valid rec center guest pass. It could be Taco Mac's north without the movies. Would also eliminate the pink plywood nightmare that seems to be a permanent part of downtown SS decor.

Kind of like the sorely missed Katie Belle's!

[Papa_lecki]

Originally Posted by Velvet

We tried going to the squares a few time each year, had a hard time finding a place to park the cart. Even if we found a place to park, over crowding all over the place. We don’t even think of going to the squares any more.

“No one goes to the squares anymore, they’re too crowded”

Yogi Berra

[davem4616]

I am disappointed that so many of the retailers that were in the squares five years ago have left....because there wasn't enough foot traffic

I'm all for the squares being open to the public....it brings me joy to see some local resident's little kids dancing it up and having a good time at the squares (reminds me of my grandkids)

I think to myself that maybe some of the so called 'nonpaying' people actually work in The Villages, maybe they staff the medical offices, wait on tables, wait on us in the retail stores, mow the lawns, are the electricians or plumbers we all use....or maybe this free entertainment is all that they hard working people can afford

The Squares are open to the public...oh, so maybe we might have to walk a distance from the parking lot...hello we need the exercise

I'll bet every single one of us have brought our kids and grandkids to 'da squares' to show it off...if not, then friends that came to visit...they've never spent a dime on amenity fees either...so what's the issue

how silly to complain that a small about of people that may live outside TV, and would like to have a little enjoyment, and are well behaved, are crowding us out...and that heaven forbid people that don't live in TV and pay the amenity fee are somehow able to access the fun in the squares if they don't pay amenity fees

If we didn't have these wonderful people that live outside TV that mow the lawns, provide every form of service we can think of....TV wouldn't be the great bubble that it is

To those that take issue...I say 'get a life' learn how to share....you're running out of runway pal, so use your good china, buy the expensive shoes, go on the trips...drink the more expensive wine...

life is short

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by davem4616

I am disappointed that so many of the retailers that were in the squares five years ago have left....because there wasn't enough foot traffic

I'm all for the squares being open to the public....it brings me joy to see some local resident's little kids dancing it up and having a good time at the squares (reminds me of my grandkids)

I think to myself that maybe some of the so called 'nonpaying' people actually work in The Villages, maybe they staff the medical offices, wait on tables, wait on us in the retail stores, mow the lawns, are the electricians or plumbers we all use....or maybe this free entertainment is all that they hard working people can afford

The Squares are open to the public...oh, so maybe we might have to walk a distance from the parking lot...hello we need the exercise

I'll bet every single one of us have brought our kids and grandkids to 'da squares' to show it off...if not, then friends that came to visit...they've never spent a dime on amenity fees either...so what's the issue

how silly to complain that a small about of people that may live outside TV, and would like to have a little enjoyment, and are well behaved, are crowding us out...and that heaven forbid people that don't live in TV and pay the amenity fee are somehow able to access the fun in the squares if they don't pay amenity fees

If we didn't have these wonderful people that live outside TV that mow the lawns, provide every form of service we can think of....TV wouldn't be the great bubble that it is

To those that take issue...I say 'get a life' learn how to share....you're running out of runway pal, so use your good china, buy the expensive shoes, go on the trips...drink the more expensive wine...

life is short

Well said summary that should conclude this thread.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by davem4616

I am disappointed that so many of the retailers that were in the squares five years ago have left....because there wasn't enough foot traffic

I'm all for the squares being open to the public....it brings me joy to see some local resident's little kids dancing it up and having a good time at the squares (reminds me of my grandkids)

I think to myself that maybe some of the so called 'nonpaying' people actually work in The Villages, maybe they staff the medical offices, wait on tables, wait on us in the retail stores, mow the lawns, are the electricians or plumbers we all use....or maybe this free entertainment is all that they hard working people can afford

The Squares are open to the public...oh, so maybe we might have to walk a distance from the parking lot...hello we need the exercise

I'll bet every single one of us have brought our kids and grandkids to 'da squares' to show it off...if not, then friends that came to visit...they've never spent a dime on amenity fees either...so what's the issue

how silly to complain that a small about of people that may live outside TV, and would like to have a little enjoyment, and are well behaved, are crowding us out...and that heaven forbid people that don't live in TV and pay the amenity fee are somehow able to access the fun in the squares if they don't pay amenity fees

If we didn't have these wonderful people that live outside TV that mow the lawns, provide every form of service we can think of....TV wouldn't be the great bubble that it is

To those that take issue...I say 'get a life' learn how to share....you're running out of runway pal, so use your good china, buy the expensive shoes, go on the trips...drink the more expensive wine...

life is short

Very well stated!

[BigSteph]

I agree with most of what you just stated. HOWEVER, it is a good distance from the singular and original point of this thread.

I want the world to be happy. I don't have to ensure that it is. I'll do my part, but it is not my heavy load to bear.

What the original poster was stating is that it is concerning to him, and probably others, that we may have people (numerous or few, we don't clearly know) that use the amenities afforded paved pathways to traverse The Villages. The road are fair game, but he is contending that the MMP's are not.

Many of the adjacent communities have real gates that I cannot traverse, but they can traverse The Villages.

I'm sure, if I could cross their barriers, which I can't, they wouldn't want me using their amenities. The gates (without red buttons) are a clear indication that I am not welcome.

I think I captured the gist of the Original Poster's vibe on the matter. If not, I can take the criticism.

I don't mind the locals at the squares -- I find it refreshing to see different ages and I hope they spend money to keep the renters happy -- yet it doesn't matter what I think anyway, they are welcome by the developer and renters, regardless of my feelings.

Originally Posted by davem4616

I am disappointed that so many of the retailers that were in the squares five years ago have left....because there wasn't enough foot traffic

I'm all for the squares being open to the public....it brings me joy to see some local resident's little kids dancing it up and having a good time at the squares (reminds me of my grandkids)

I think to myself that maybe some of the so called 'nonpaying' people actually work in The Villages, maybe they staff the medical offices, wait on tables, wait on us in the retail stores, mow the lawns, are the electricians or plumbers we all use....or maybe this free entertainment is all that they hard working people can afford

The Squares are open to the public...oh, so maybe we might have to walk a distance from the parking lot...hello we need the exercise

I'll bet every single one of us have brought our kids and grandkids to 'da squares' to show it off...if not, then friends that came to visit...they've never spent a dime on amenity fees either...so what's the issue

how silly to complain that a small about of people that may live outside TV, and would like to have a little enjoyment, and are well behaved, are crowding us out...and that heaven forbid people that don't live in TV and pay the amenity fee are somehow able to access the fun in the squares if they don't pay amenity fees

If we didn't have these wonderful people that live outside TV that mow the lawns, provide every form of service we can think of....TV wouldn't be the great bubble that it is

To those that take issue...I say 'get a life' learn how to share....you're running out of runway pal, so use your good china, buy the expensive shoes, go on the trips...drink the more expensive wine...

life is short

[affald]

Originally Posted by rustyp

How is this idea to keep residents happy while not impacting the merchants with any type of outsider banning.

Convert the Rialto theater into a resident only club complete with restaurant, bar, and entertainment. Perhaps live entertainment three times per day. One would need to show Villages ID to enter. A guest could accompany a resident with a valid rec center guest pass. It could be Taco Mac's north without the movies. Would also eliminate the pink plywood nightmare that seems to be a permanent part of downtown SS decor.

That's a great idea. With regard to the OP. These was a group from stonecrest in the parade, and none of their golf carts that I saw were street legal. There needs to be a different card system for that "walmart" gate.

[VApeople]

Originally Posted by Velvet

We tried going to the squares a few time each year, had a hard time finding a place to park the cart.

You did not try very hard. We drive our car to the squares and easily find a space in the numerous and huge parking lots.

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by VApeople

You did not try very hard. We drive our car to the squares and easily find a space in the numerous and huge parking lots.

Well we did find parking, but then everyplace around the squares was full. I am all for the workers enjoying themselves. It’s the crowds I don’t like. If I wanted to stand in line for music it would be at the 60 band concert in Golden Gate Park in San Francisco. Or for The Kennedy Centre in NY etc.

When I came to visit my parents in TV decades ago, the square was filled with Villagers and never over crowded. It was less commercial and dedicated to actually entertaining the residents. Times have changed…I guess I have not.

[rustyp]

Originally Posted by davem4616

I am disappointed that so many of the retailers that were in the squares five years ago have left....because there wasn't enough foot traffic

I'm all for the squares being open to the public....it brings me joy to see some local resident's little kids dancing it up and having a good time at the squares (reminds me of my grandkids)

I think to myself that maybe some of the so called 'nonpaying' people actually work in The Villages, maybe they staff the medical offices, wait on tables, wait on us in the retail stores, mow the lawns, are the electricians or plumbers we all use....or maybe this free entertainment is all that they hard working people can afford

The Squares are open to the public...oh, so maybe we might have to walk a distance from the parking lot...hello we need the exercise

I'll bet every single one of us have brought our kids and grandkids to 'da squares' to show it off...if not, then friends that came to visit...they've never spent a dime on amenity fees either...so what's the issue

how silly to complain that a small about of people that may live outside TV, and would like to have a little enjoyment, and are well behaved, are crowding us out...and that heaven forbid people that don't live in TV and pay the amenity fee are somehow able to access the fun in the squares if they don't pay amenity fees

If we didn't have these wonderful people that live outside TV that mow the lawns, provide every form of service we can think of....TV wouldn't be the great bubble that it is

To those that take issue...I say 'get a life' learn how to share....you're running out of runway pal, so use your good china, buy the expensive shoes, go on the trips...drink the more expensive wine...

life is short

Let's put a roof over this airport.

[Michael G.]

Originally Posted by Mortal1

if you did live off site and used a cart to access the villages MMP's you would be libel for trespassing. is it worth the chance?

Ya Right........ "Libel for trespassing"????
What planet are you from?

[Michael G.]

Originally Posted by jricci13

You do need a card to get through the gate that takes you to Walmart.

A group we talk to from Stonecrest came through the Walmart gate and over the Orange Blossom bridge to get to the squares.

How could this happen when we pay for those trails?