[hedoman]

I can't believe there aren't more accidents here. On the paths golf carts that take their half out o the middle are close to going head on. I can't believe I havn't seen more head on cart to cart collisions at night but it's not even crowded yet, give it time. They need a real light at Sonny's. The roundabouts are a joke as I've had near collisions with somebody in the cnter circle making a right turn cutting me off and exiting the roundabout. NO turn signals on roads or paths many times. People just having to prove they have a faster cart on the paths. Not paying attention, too distracted and in too big of a hurry.

Yesterday some dude was riding his bike on El Camino Real into the roundabout to Buena Vista. Just pedaling slowly with the paths just yards away! That's just rude!

This keeps up and the natural "thinning of the herd" will take place and innocent people will get hurt. Wake up Villagers!

[jblum315]

Originally Posted by shrandell

went into Sumter for doc's appointment, (one o'clock) and saw emergency crews, fire truck etc., blocking the road at the 4 way stop by Sony's at Canal and Old Camp. It is such a dangerous intersection that I avoid it at all costs, and cross Canal where the cart path croses Canal, and detour up to Sweet Bay parking lot. Hope there were no serious injuries, but the equipment vehicals were still there when I left the doc's office several hours later.

That 4-way stop is so treacherous, especially coming right after a roundabout. It chills me every time I drive there. Should be a light, or a right-turn-only

[THE NEWCOMER]

Be careful, SMART CARS require PREMIMUM GASOLINE!

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Pturner

Hi USNRet92,
Welcome! Have a wonderful time on your LSP. In my mind, there aren't so much dangerous intersections as there are dangerous drivers, and very busy intersections, especially this time of year.

If you are not familiar with roundabouts, here's a good brochure to read in advance: http://www.districtgov.org/PdfView/P...daboutBrochure. You might have to copy and paste this link into your browser.

Remember to treat the roundabouts like other intersections. For example:

• The first exit is the same as making a right turn. Do it from the right lane.
• The second exit goes straight through (i.e., takes you onto the same road from which you entered). Do it from either lane (being sure from the left lane that there is not a car beside you on your right.)
• The third exit is the same as making a left turn. Do it from the left lane (being sure there in not a car beside you on your right.)
• Always use your blinker to indicate when you plan to exit.

How do you make sure there is not a car in the right lane beside you when you are in the left lane? EASY. Do not drive side-by-side with another car within the roundabout/intersection. Always stagger.


The accident mentioned by Shrandell above was at an intersection feeding into/out of the LSL town square area. There is a four-way stop sign, so it should be safe. From the post, it sounds like perhaps the accident happened around lunch time when the area can get very crowded.


If you drive defensively and assume the other guy might not, you'll be fine.


Please let us know how you enjoyed your visit. And if you have any more questions, just ask.

THIS POST NEEDS TO BE PRINTED and reread and reread by everyone.
Excellent advice PTurner!!

[Dirigo]

Originally Posted by Pturner

Hi USNRet92,
Welcome! Have a wonderful time on your LSP. In my mind, there aren't so much dangerous intersections as there are dangerous drivers, and very busy intersections, especially this time of year.

If you are not familiar with roundabouts, here's a good brochure to read in advance: http://www.districtgov.org/PdfView/P...daboutBrochure. You might have to copy and paste this link into your browser.

Remember to treat the roundabouts like other intersections. For example:

• The first exit is the same as making a right turn. Do it from the right lane.
• The second exit goes straight through (i.e., takes you onto the same road from which you entered). Do it from either lane (being sure from the left lane that there is not a car beside you on your right.)
• The third exit is the same as making a left turn. Do it from the left lane (being sure there in not a car beside you on your right.)
• Always use your blinker to indicate when you plan to exit.

How do you make sure there is not a car in the right lane beside you when you are in the left lane? EASY. Do not drive side-by-side with another car within the roundabout/intersection. Always stagger.


The accident mentioned by Shrandell above was at an intersection feeding into/out of the LSL town square area. There is a four-way stop sign, so it should be safe. From the post, it sounds like perhaps the accident happened around lunch time when the area can get very crowded.


If you drive defensively and assume the other guy might not, you'll be fine.


Please let us know how you enjoyed your visit. And if you have any more questions, just ask.

Well done PT. Never heard it put that way before. Very easy to understand and remember.

Thanks!

[Dirigo]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Do you have a list like this where you live now? It is not as bad as some make it out to be. Come, enjoy and don't worry!

I have a list where I used to live. I have only had two accidents and an adult that were my fault (one no damage, one about $5K damage) were in the exact same spot. Many, many others have had accidents there also as it is the area with the most collisions in the State of Maine. I go WAY out of my way to avoid that intersection.

I have a short list for TV also and avoid those areas when I can or take the car instead of the cart.

I wonder if one could drive an unregistered Smart on the multi-modal paths, and on streets if they stayed below 20mph

[getdul981]

Originally Posted by Dirigo

I wonder if one could drive an unregistered Smart on the multi-modal paths, and on streets if they stayed below 20mph

NO!!!

[Happinow]

Originally Posted by CarGuys

Thats the bad part but we don't as of yet play golf. Many get two carts she was thinking one cart for golf and the trails and a used Smart for Two convertible for the Villages or outer roads.

We are not going the Street Legal Cart direction- That is not worth it for us. Might as well register the Smart Car you goota pay insurance anyway.

I have a freind in Spanish springs that loves his Smart See Pic in front of our new home
Attachment 1277

I've thought of the Smart Car myself. It certainly would give some protection in case of an accident.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Dirigo

I have a list where I used to live. I have only had two accidents and an adult that were my fault (one no damage, one about $5K damage) were in the exact same spot. Many, many others have had accidents there also as it is the area with the most collisions in the State of Maine. I go WAY out of my way to avoid that intersection.

I have a short list for TV also and avoid those areas when I can or take the car instead of the cart.

I wonder if one could drive an unregistered Smart on the multi-modal paths, and on streets if they stayed below 20mph

The thought having to check some list before leaving my home in my car does not make any sense to me. Why should I have to alter my route because a couple of idiots ran into each other at a particular intersection? If one is so fearful of driving they should not be driving.

[Bill-n-Brillo]

The key thing to me is part of what pturner stated and what others in the past have stated as well: I don't travel through a roundabout next to another vehicle.

Bill

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Bill-n-Brillo

The key thing to me is part of what pturner stated and what others in the past have stated as well: I don't travel through a roundabout next to another vehicle.

Bill

If the Yield sign is observed, on entering the roundabout, that wouldn't happen. Wonder how many people even know there is a Yield sign?

[Mikeod]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

If the Yield sign is observed, on entering the roundabout, that wouldn't happen. Wonder how many people even know there is a Yield sign?

I suspect some see the yield sign and treat it like a yellow light. SPEED UP and beat the other guy to the roundabout! I find it a lot easier to navigate the roundabouts if I simply approach them with the anticipation I will have to yield, not the attitude that I'll only yield if I absolutely have to.

[Indydealmaker]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

THIS POST NEEDS TO BE PRINTED and reread and reread by everyone.
Excellent advice PTurner!!

[BigLew]

Originally Posted by CarGuys

Thats the bad part but we don't as of yet play golf. Many get two carts she was thinking one cart for golf and the trails and a used Smart for Two convertible for the Villages or outer roads.

We are not going the Street Legal Cart direction- That is not worth it for us. Might as well register the Smart Car you goota pay insurance anyway.

I have a freind in Spanish springs that loves his Smart See Pic in front of our new home
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before I touched or rode in a smart car, I'd read this:

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com...ForTwo/Safety/

here they talk about the additional safety testing where it was tested in crashes against mid-sized cars (normal testing for safety rating is in crashes with like sized cars), I'll give you a preview....it went airborne rotated 450 degrees and showed 'significant' intrusion in the passenger area...nope not for me. This was also done with the FIT and Yaris who didn't fare much better, however neither of these became airborne like the smart fortwo.

[BigLew]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

If the Yield sign is observed, on entering the roundabout, that wouldn't happen. Wonder how many people even know there is a Yield sign?

based on observation most people don't have a clue as to what a yield sign means, they either treat it as a stop sign, which it isn't, or disregard it entirely...along with the solid and broken lines in the roundabout!

maybe this is the way to go!