[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Normal

Exactly. A fun couple of days, zero responsibilities and stealing amenities cost us all more. Airbnbs should all pay a large tax to community development instead of allowing theft. It kind of reminds me of Netflix before they cracked down.

A quick internet search at Airbnb even has a 2 week old new home available

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This home is on Newel Loop; new construction with building going on around it.

They're supposed to be paying the tourism tax (not to the developers but to the county). Short term rentals are subject to that tax. Any homeowner who rents their home for short-term use, who is /not/ paying the tourism tax, is violating the law.

You don't call community standards for that. You call the tax department of whichever county the property is in.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by JGibson

Theft of service is 7 people under 55 living in an Airbnb and the landlord doesn't pay a dime more than me in amenities.

Is there no limit to the # of Guest/Resident Passes someone can get? A limit, based on the # of bedrooms, perhaps?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Is there no limit to the # of Guest/Resident Passes someone can get? A limit, based on the # of bedrooms, perhaps?

2 resident passes per unit. No idea about guest passes.

[Normal]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

2 resident passes per unit. No idea about guest passes.

So basically, no sports pool use

[LuvNH]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I would recommend /not/ clicking on the above link. First off - it's a link found on a Facebook group page and their admin doesn't vet their contributors or the links they post.

Second - a simple search for "endlesssummerace" returns - nothing. Except that post on Facebook.

Third - wix is a cloud server hosting service used often by phishing scammers. Even though wix itself is a legitimate service, it is popular with scammers because they also don't vet their subscribers.

Endless Summer is a legitimate Florida rental company with offices all over Florida. They are a reputable organization for someone looking for a rental. We used to rent around Clearwater and they are big there.

[Velvet]

If TV can’t get out of renting Airbnb legally, then I think it is time we spend more on Community Watch and enforcement. A few people benefit from renting, a lot of us suffer because of it. Otherwise, we are going down the drain overwhelmed with people who neither know or care about the effort put in by the developer and the residents to make this a beautiful pleasant place. I mean just for example; trash, and drinking, playing loud music, and diving and trying to swim in the neighborhood pools and over crowded homes where the renters invite their own guests etc. if it continues like this I see TV going to hell in a hand basket.

[JohnnyKat]

Airbnb's in The Villages: In general - very general...It's one negative over, say, living in On Top Of The World. By the way. So you don't feel bad. OTOW has an awful HOA that only benefits the billionaire owner. We have some nice pros that come with being in facade of what is The Villages - heavy seasonal congestion NOT being one of them, of course. We hear you, Velvet. Add the Airbnb burden to the fact that we're becoming more and more southern NJ /NY everyday by way of sheer population influx...

[LuvNH]

Originally Posted by Velvet

If TV can’t get out of renting Airbnb legally, then I think it is time we spend more on Community Watch and enforcement. A few people benefit from renting, a lot of us suffer because of it. Otherwise, we are going down the drain overwhelmed with people who neither know or care about the effort put in by the developer and the residents to make this a beautiful pleasant place. I mean just for example; trash, and drinking, playing loud music, and diving and trying to swim in the neighborhood pools and over crowded homes where the renters invite their own guests etc. if it continues like this I see TV going to hell in a hand basket.

Before settling in TV we rented every winter on the beach in various towns from Clearwater to Johns Pass. The rental motels and condo lunits stood out like a sore thumb from the high end condos that did not allow rentals. You can travel through TV and see immediately those homes that are rentals compared to the homes that are year round residents.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by LuvNH

You can travel through TV and see immediately those homes that are rentals compared to the homes that are year round residents.

With Airbnb’s, many rear round residents are renting out space in their homes while living there.

[oldtimes]

Originally Posted by LuvNH

Before settling in TV we rented every winter on the beach in various towns from Clearwater to Johns Pass. The rental motels and condo lunits stood out like a sore thumb from the high end condos that did not allow rentals. You can travel through TV and see immediately those homes that are rentals compared to the homes that are year round residents.

It doesn't seem like much of a problem until it happens in your neighborhood and then you understand but it is too late. The developer needs to decide if it is going to continue to be an over 55 retirement community or go back to being a trailer park.

This is copied from the **** site, makes The Villages a pretty cheap place to stay:

Prices start at $60 per night, and houses and villas are popular options for a stay in The Villages. Either way, you'll find a rental for everyone's needs.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by oldtimes

It doesn't seem like much of a problem until it happens in your neighborhood and then you understand but it is too late. The developer needs to decide if it is going to continue to be an over 55 retirement community or go back to being a trailer park.
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Personally, I'm opposed to STR's in any neighborhood, anywhere ... The Villages included.

That said, rental desirability is one of the main drivers of property values in TV. If TV was to eliminate STR's tomorrow, property values would like drop about 10% overnight (in addition to the current market forces, which are devaluing properties everywhere). Just a wild estimate, but I suspect about 10% of the Units in TV are available for rental, perhaps more. If you remove 10%-15% of available buyers from a specific market, prices are going to drop.

STR's drive the values in 2 ways. A) They soak up inventory, B) Investor buyers can and do act quickly and decisively when buying property and are usually buying with all cash.

In the past (particularly last year or so) "panic buying" became another driver of property appreciation. When inventory is selling past, people act quickly and pay to dollar.

[oldtimes]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Personally, I'm opposed to STR's in any neighborhood, anywhere ... The Villages included.

That said, rental desirability is one of the main drivers of property values in TV. If TV was to eliminate STR's tomorrow, property values would like drop about 10% overnight (in addition to the current market forces, which are devaluing properties everywhere). Just a wild estimate, but I suspect about 10% of the Units in TV are available for rental, perhaps more. If you remove 10%-15% of available buyers from a specific market, prices are going to drop.

STR's drive the values in 2 ways. A) They soak up inventory, B) Investor buyers can and do act quickly and decisively when buying property and are usually buying with all cash.

In the past (particularly last year or so) "panic buying" became another driver of property appreciation. When inventory is selling past, people act quickly and pay to dollar.

Prices are going to drop as these cheap, short term rentals ruin what is supposed to be a retirement community. No one is going to pay top dollar to live next to a cheap hotel.

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Personally, I'm opposed to STR's in any neighborhood, anywhere ... The Villages included.

That said, rental desirability is one of the main drivers of property values in TV. If TV was to eliminate STR's tomorrow, property values would like drop about 10% overnight (in addition to the current market forces, which are devaluing properties everywhere). Just a wild estimate, but I suspect about 10% of the Units in TV are available for rental, perhaps more. If you remove 10%-15% of available buyers from a specific market, prices are going to drop.

STR's drive the values in 2 ways. A) They soak up inventory, B) Investor buyers can and do act quickly and decisively when buying property and are usually buying with all cash.

In the past (particularly last year or so) "panic buying" became another driver of property appreciation. When inventory is selling past, people act quickly and pay to dollar.

Yes, but when it comes to residents how much do they care about their property value if they plan to live here? How much do they care about their daily quality of life in comparison (as affected by predatory rentals). Whether you say my house is worth 300K, 500K, or 1000K it makes no real difference to me. It’s exactly the same house! Unless you are an investor, generally the value of your property doesn’t mean much. Perhaps it does to the kids who may inherit it after you die.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Velvet

Yes, but when it comes to residents how much do they care about their property value if they plan to live here? How much do they care about their daily quality of life in comparison (as affected by predatory rentals). Whether you say my house is worth 300K, 500K, or 1000K it makes no real difference to me. It’s exactly the same house! Unless you are an investor, generally the value of your property doesn’t mean much. Perhaps it does to the kids who may inherit it after you die.

I agree 100%, which is one of the reasons I'm completely against STR's. They bring nothing of value and detract from the neighborhoods and amenities.

That said, Villagers (as most everywhere else) love to think about how much their house has appreciated and how much it's now worth. We are one of the few countries in the world, that view homes as "investments" and not simply the purchase of shelter.

[Velvet]

Yes, and when your house is valued higher because of the market - you still have exactly the same thing - but when it is assessed it is higher so you get to pay a higher property tax. Every year.