[redwitch]

Chachacha, your SO can in fact get a resident id card if you'r a permanent resident (not that would know that you're not). Call the district office and they'll give you the details. Just tell them you're living together. I know he will have to show proof of residence down here, including a Florida DL or ID showing your address, proof of change of address (bank statement showing new address, voter's registration card or change of address from the USPS). I can't remember if he'll need something else. Both of you will have to go to the office to get his card, but it is an easy, painless procedure once he has the necessary documentation.

As to the issue of being able to use the amenities while renters are also using them, I agree, it's double dipping. Sorry. While your case is actually a pretty reasonable request, the reality is that many would abuse it for local friends and family.

[hunt9791]

Visited the Villages District office today and spoke with a supervisor about the number of permanent cards per household: There is no limit by law....if your name is on the DEED they have to hand over an I.D. card. They said they don't like to go over 4 cards per house; but they have! As mentioned in the other posts you can get the card without being named on the Deed. Need either a Florida drivers license or a Florida identification card plus two other items such as mail addressed to you in the Villages.

Seems unfair for the single people......

[ijusluvit]

Wait a minute!

Are you guys saying that with a property like Chachacha's, where there is a second person seeking a resident card, that person must show proof of permanent residence?

I live in New York most of the time but have owned here for four years. They would deny my SO a resident card if mine was the only name on the deed?

That is still blatant discrimination!

[Bryan]

The system may be a little bureaucratic but it seems basically fair to me.

If your name is on the deed - full time or snow bird - you get a Resident ID card unless you give up that card for renters. If your name is NOT on the deed, but you live here "legally" you show the proof of residence in triplicate (did I mention that it is a bureaucracy) you get a Resident ID card. I see no reason for non-owner snowbirds (i.e. name not on the deed and no Florida DL or ID) to have a Resident ID card.

Unfortunately, when you inquire about all this, you sometimes get varying answers for whatever reason (lack of knowledge, lazy, incompetent, etc.) That seems to cause more problems than the real situation.

Back to the post that started this thread, if the SO is a full time resident and can document such, you should be able to get them a Resident ID card with only "some" hassle. If they are not a full time resident, they can't get a Resident ID Card unless/until you put them on the deed.

[villages07]

Bryan.... I think you have summarized the policy in a nutshell...nice job.

The only PS I would reinforce is that the SO can certainly get a guest pass for the duration of his visit. This does entitle him to pools, rec facilities, participation in most clubs, golf (at higher guest fee), etc. Yes, he will have to pay the higher guest rate for many things but the only thing that he is totally excluded from is the sports pools. Even at Katie Belles, he can go there as long as he is with you.

[ijusluvit]

Bryan and V7, Please forgive me but...

What difference is there between a daughter who lives here most of the time with a single owner, and a SO "snowbird" who lives with a single owner sometimes?

You suggest the daughter should be allowed a resident card and the "snowbird" be denied.

I cannot see how this is anything but discriminatory.

[villages07]

I don't see it as discrimination, just definition. Like most 'rules', the line has to be drawn somewhere.

The 'daughter' in this example is a full time Florida resident, claiming the TV home as her official, permanent residence.

The visiting SO is officially a resident of another state and is here visiting seasonally. Could have been a brother, daughter, friend etc....if they are not on the deed and not a permanent resident of that address, then no resident ID.

[Russ_Boston]

Originally Posted by villages07

Like most 'rules', the line has to be drawn somewhere.

Rules? We don't need no stinking rules!

Ok I couldn't think of anything more cleaver to say.

[ijusluvit]

V7,

You miss my point. The person discriminated against is the single owner. Why should he/she be denied a second resident pass, which I am suggesting is her right by TV practice, just because the person making the second request is a particular "kind" of person.

(I'm done)

[elevatorman]

Question from a wanabe
Just for clarification, if if my wife and I are on the deed and have another couple come for a weeks visit, can they get some sort of pass? Would they be able to use pools and exec. golf?

[redwitch]

Originally Posted by elevatorman

Question from a wanabe
Just for clarification, if if my wife and I are on the deed and have another couple come for a weeks visit, can they get some sort of pass? Would they be able to use pools and exec. golf?

You can get guest passes good for their visit. They will be able to use almost everything (I believe the sports pools are out). However, there will be additional fees for using the golf courses and they must be accompanied by a resident to all spots where an ID card is required.

[784caroline]

I dont see this as discrimination against single owners for the same could apply if you were married but only had one name on the deed. The second resident would have to show residence as defined by the Villages. It does appear to get a little complicated if a single owner is trying to rent out the property and provide cards to the renters and only one is avaiable because there is only one name on the deed or only one resident residing in the property.

[Russ_Boston]

Originally Posted by redwitch

they must be accompanied by a resident to all spots where an ID card is required.

I believe that is only where a resident pass is required (Sports pools, Exec golf, Katie Bells). A regular guest pass can get them, by themselves, into neighborhood pools and rec centers for pickleball, tennis etc.

[redwitch]

I know the checkers give them grief if they're in a rec center to play bridge without the resident cardholder, so assumed it was the same for all activities. Sorry if I'm misspoke but actually glad to hear they aren't totally tethered to the homeowner.

[Russ_Boston]

You are probably right about those type of activities as well. I was thinking about more global activities like using the pools, golfing on the CC clubs (which are open to the public anyway).

So i guess their freedom is limited.