[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

No, I'm poking holes in your outlandish fantasies...)

Sorry, but what you think are "fantasies" are "realities". And, although you are poking, you are not making holes. Trying to justify or rationalize behavior that is not appropriate or appreciated by most people is a lost cause. Even folks, like myself, who have dogs or have had dogs and loved them realize they are not furry four legged humans. They are products of human intervention. In great part, designer animals, bred for a multitude of reasons. From protection and helpmates all the way to pets, toys and attention getting devices.
I had eight dogs in my life and loved them all. They all enhanced my life in various ways. But I never took them shopping or to restaurants. They were dogs. Happiest at home in familiar surrounding, rather than trying to deal with strange people, places, noises and smells. If you truly love your pet, for his/her sake leave them home and they will really enjoy the reunion when you get home much more than the outing you might have subjected them to.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Yes, because the "pee and poo" accidents are an epidemic of epic proportions...

And your shoe comment fails to hold water. Dogs wearing "booties" will walk thru the same thing as dogs without booties.

Don't need "epic proportions". Once should be enough, I should think. And I am sad to say I have seen it many times over the years.
As for where the dog will walk, I think it is more than fair to say that a dog can only go where it's owner allows it to go.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by MX rider

After all these posts, it's obvious no matter how many people say it or how they say it, you still don't get it. The vast majority of people don't see it your way and don't want other peoples dogs around them in public places.

You and the other, yes I said selfish, dog owners are the only ones that think it's ok.
I love my dogs, but I'm smart enough to know most other people don't.
So they stay at home where they're happy.

The "vast majority"?

Can you cite the poll? No? Okay, bye...

I'm a selfish dog owner? Have I ever said I brought my dog into a grocery store? Into a restaurant? No, I don't think I have...

So save your insults and your made up outrage for someone who cares...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Don't need "epic proportions". Once should be enough, I should think. And I am sad to say I have seen it many times over the years.
As for where the dog will walk, I think it is more than fair to say that a dog can only go where it's owner allows it to go.

Sorry, but once is not enough (with apologies to James Bond)...

If "once" was enough, than certain people would be banned for public places...

Oh, edited to add...: Your "once is enough" comment only reinforces my point about some folks having nothing better to do that be outraged about things that rarely, if ever, happen...

[Fredster]

Getting back to the original question…

“What's your take on the public bringing your pets
into restaurants, grocery stores, churches?”

I don’t think pets should be brought into those
above referenced places,
but bona-fide service animals are the exception!

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by MX rider

You keep making the same goofy argument all you over the top dog owners make. Comparing a dog to people. No matter how much you love your little baby, it's not a kid/person! It's an animal.
They eat dog and cat poop, lick their own private parts, and roll on dead animals if you let them.

Most people agree they don't belong out in public places around strangers. But we're forced tolerate selfish dog owners. Btw, I have 2 dogs.

You know why dogs lick their privates, don't you?

Because they CAN.

But you gotta wonder just what the DOG thinks of all this. I saw one in Wal-Mart yesterday: cute little thing, maybe 5 lbs. or so, riding in her owner's grocery cart. Said doggie was wearing pink bows behind her ears and some kind of sweater thing as well. To be honest the dog was more attractive than her owner. But did the dog feel good about all the to-do? Or just putting up with it until she got wheeled out of that crowded, loud, disorganized madhouse that Wal-Mart can become at times?

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Sorry, but once is not enough (with apologies to James Bond)...

If "once" was enough, than certain people would be banned for public places...

Oh, edited to add...: Your "once is enough" comment only reinforces my point about some folks having nothing better to do that be outraged about things that rarely, if ever, happen...

Depending on the offence, once may be enough and those offenders go to jail, effectively banning them from public places.

As to your edit/addition, I agree that, at first glance, it can certainly appear to be the case. Some even seem outraged that others seem to be outraged. Silly since it muddies your perspective. Like the philosopher once said about anger, "emotional content, not anger (outrage). Anger is like a finger pointed at the moon. Focus on the finger and you miss all that heavenly glory".

[Wyseguy]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

The situation is having respect for others opinions. Having a dog where food is sold or prepared is troublesome to many. Can't you leave fido home for the hour you go grocery shopping?
I love dogs, and even got permission to have my boxer sit by me during chemo. The doctor had a storage closet that she let me sit in during the six hours a day I received chemo. After the first two weeks of treatment I started to get very anxious about walking into the doctor's office (the disease messes with logic). Having my well trained dog sit lay on my feet helped. Down here, I now go to Fl Cancer Center for transfusions. I would never even consider bringing a dog into that environment. Unlike my original situation, FCC has a dozen chairs in one large room. You love your dog, I love dogs, not everyone does.

[Wyseguy]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

Just because you haven't seen them in a grocery store doesn't mean it doesn't happen. How may anecdotes does it take to indicate that it does happen, I've seen it a number of times. Maybe I'm more observant.

It definitely happens. I see it at least once a week where they bring a dog in using either a baby?/dog harness or a stroller. Less frequently, but seen, is where they have the dog walking on a leash.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

You know why dogs lick their privates, don't you?

Because they CAN.

But you gotta wonder just what the DOG thinks of all this. I saw one in Wal-Mart yesterday: cute little thing, maybe 5 lbs. or so, riding in her owner's grocery cart. Said doggie was wearing pink bows behind her ears and some kind of sweater thing as well. To be honest the dog was more attractive than her owner. But did the dog feel good about all the to-do? Or just putting up with it until she got wheeled out of that crowded, loud, disorganized madhouse that Wal-Mart can become at times?

So, the dog was wearing clothes, as requested in this thread? Cool!

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Depending on the offence, once may be enough and those offenders go to jail, effectively banning them from public places.

As to your edit/addition, I agree that, at first glance, it can certainly appear to be the case. Some even seem outraged that others seem to be outraged. Silly since it muddies your perspective. Like the philosopher once said about anger, "emotional content, not anger (outrage). Anger is like a finger pointed at the moon. Focus on the finger and you miss all that heavenly glory".

"Some even seem outraged"...

Yes, "some" do...

Self awareness is an important first step...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Wyseguy

The situation is having respect for others opinions. Having a dog where food is sold or prepared is troublesome to many. Can't you leave fido home for the hour you go grocery shopping?
I love dogs, and even got permission to have my boxer sit by me during chemo. The doctor had a storage closet that she let me sit in during the six hours a day I received chemo. After the first two weeks of treatment I started to get very anxious about walking into the doctor's office (the disease messes with logic). Having my well trained dog sit lay on my feet helped. Down here, I now go to Fl Cancer Center for transfusions. I would never even consider bringing a dog into that environment. Unlike my original situation, FCC has a dozen chairs in one large room. You love your dog, I love dogs, not everyone does.

Who suggested that it's proper to bring dogs into a grocery store?

I most certainly never did...

I only suggested that the actual occurrence of that happening is so small, that it isn't a significant problem...

And many hospitals have dogs roaming the halls, giving comfort to sick patients...

I guess that Dr's office outrage is now on shakier ground...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Wyseguy

It definitely happens. I see it at least once a week where they bring a dog in using either a baby?/dog harness or a stroller. Less frequently, but seen, is where they have the dog walking on a leash.

So, a dog in a stroller is a huge problem? Why?

They're not tracking "god knows what all over the floor...

They're not "spreading disease" in the grocery carts...

They're not "peeing and pooping" all over the place...

So why get so upset about it?

[PugMom]

look how long this thread is living! almost as long as the other animal thread re: poop on lawns

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

You know why dogs lick their privates, don't you?

Because they CAN.

But you gotta wonder just what the DOG thinks of all this. I saw one in Wal-Mart yesterday: cute little thing, maybe 5 lbs. or so, riding in her owner's grocery cart. Said doggie was wearing pink bows behind her ears and some kind of sweater thing as well. To be honest the dog was more attractive than her owner. But did the dog feel good about all the to-do? Or just putting up with it until she got wheeled out of that crowded, loud, disorganized madhouse that Wal-Mart can become at times?

You understand! Dogs don't need or want the accoutrements or the fuss. They, at best, tolerate it as if owner is playing with them. Dog s become confused and stressed by all the hubbub. They have no understanding of where they are or why they are there. And the "accidents" that some will try to deny ever happen, do happen and are usually, likely stress related.