[Muncle]

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

As fa as I'm concerned, backyard privacy--or rather closeness to neighbors behind you--is the single disadvantage to TV.

When I saw your subject line, I did not notice the thread. I thought someone was finally going to hit a topic that really burns my :edit:. And if that someone was the Kahuna, what more credibility would be needed.

The Single Disadvantage --- why the heck am I, a single person, paying the same Executive Trail fees as a household of 2 or even 4 people? The total is $141.24 regardless of the number of individuals covered. Nor does it matter if I have one cart and they have 4 of them, all on the road at the same time. :yikes: It's bad enough that the Priority Membership prices grossly favor couples over singles, but at least they do recognize some inequity and charge a token amount for a spouse. But not the Execute Trail folks. To them, we singles are still pond scum, unworthy to be admitted to the polite society of couples. Once again, a culture ruled by and catering to "the couple" sticks it to anyone who dares to be different, to rebel from societal norms. :yikes: Does the single person want special treatment? NO!!! They just want equal treatment and if it takes revolution to achieve this, so be it. Anybody got the number of the POA?

Well, got that off my chest. I return the thread back to its original topic. Gonna go play golf now. Never mind.

[samhass]

Hey Muncle, Maybe you and Red could become a couple...barring her other upcoming nuptuals.

Originally Posted by Muncle

When I saw your subject line, I did not notice the thread. I thought someone was finally going to hit a topic that really burns my :edit:. And if that someone was the Kahuna, what more credibility would be needed.

The Single Disadvantage --- why the heck am I, a single person, paying the same Executive Trail fees as a household of 2 or even 4 people? The total is $141.24 regardless of the number of individuals covered. Nor does it matter if I have one cart and they have 4 of them, all on the road at the same time. :yikes: It's bad enough that the Priority Membership prices grossly favor couples over singles, but at least they do recognize some inequity and charge a token amount for a spouse. But not the Execute Trail folks. To them, we singles are still pond scum, unworthy to be admitted to the polite society of couples. Once again, a culture ruled by and catering to "the couple" sticks it to anyone who dares to be different, to rebel from societal norms. :yikes: Does the single person want special treatment? NO!!! They just want equal treatment and if it takes revolution to achieve this, so be it. Anybody got the number of the POA?

Well, got that off my chest. I return the thread back to its original topic. Gonna go play golf now. Never mind.

[Muncle]

Originally Posted by samhass

Hey Muncle, Maybe you and Red could become a couple...barring her other upcoming nuptuals.

It's not that much of a discount!!

just kidding, Red.

[redwitch]

That's okay, Muncle, I was making horrid gasping noises when I read Sam's post. Glad we're in agreement on THAT idea.

[Muncle]

Originally Posted by redwitch

That's okay, Muncle, I was making horrid gasping noises when I read Sam's post. Glad we're in agreement on THAT idea.

Hey, we weren't talking sex here!!!!! :yikes:

[octcr]

I have been away from this site for awhile...reading this this evening makes me wonder what is wrong with everyone...we are all in that next stage of our lives...the lucky ones have their mates with them...then there are those for what ever reason that are single as the phrase goes...single...because their mate has past away...single because of divorce...you all need to thank your lucky stars...we one day will be in that boat whether you like it or not...single...yes...it just depends on who goes first whether it is classified as death or divorce...you must all remember and respect that...YOU WILL BE IN THAT SITUATION REAGARDLESS IF YOU LIKE IT OR NOT...we must all be their for each other...what is that saying...you cannot judge unless you walk in that man's shoes. Think people. We all need each other.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by octcr

I have been away from this site for awhile...reading this this evening makes me wonder what is wrong with everyone...we are all in that next stage of our lives...the lucky ones have their mates with them...then there are those for what ever reason that are single as the phrase goes...single...because their mate has past away...single because of divorce...you all need to thank your lucky stars...we one day will be in that boat whether you like it or not...single...yes...it just depends on who goes first whether it is classified as death or divorce...you must all remember and respect that...YOU WILL BE IN THAT SITUATION REAGARDLESS IF YOU LIKE IT OR NOT...we must all be their for each other...what is that saying...you cannot judge unless you walk in that man's shoes. Think people. We all need each other.

[samhass]

We all know we will most likely be alone at some point. I was telling Barefoot and Beady how I felt about this subject earlier this evening. It's as if you heard me and posted my thoughts.
I was confused, however, because you sounded angry. I was teasing Muncle.
I hope you are not suffering through the sickness of a spouse. It's incredibly frightening and hard.

Originally Posted by octcr

I have been away from this site for awhile...reading this this evening makes me wonder what is wrong with everyone...we are all in that next stage of our lives...the lucky ones have their mates with them...then there are those for what ever reason that are single as the phrase goes...single...because their mate has past away...single because of divorce...you all need to thank your lucky stars...we one day will be in that boat whether you like it or not...single...yes...it just depends on who goes first whether it is classified as death or divorce...you must all remember and respect that...YOU WILL BE IN THAT SITUATION REAGARDLESS IF YOU LIKE IT OR NOT...we must all be their for each other...what is that saying...you cannot judge unless you walk in that man's shoes. Think people. We all need each other.

[RCT]

Originally Posted by octcr

I have been away from this site for awhile...reading this this evening makes me wonder what is wrong with everyone...we are all in that next stage of our lives...the lucky ones have their mates with them...then there are those for what ever reason that are single as the phrase goes...single...because their mate has past away...single because of divorce...you all need to thank your lucky stars...we one day will be in that boat whether you like it or not...single...yes...it just depends on who goes first whether it is classified as death or divorce...you must all remember and respect that...YOU WILL BE IN THAT SITUATION REAGARDLESS IF YOU LIKE IT OR NOT...we must all be their for each other...what is that saying...you cannot judge unless you walk in that man's shoes. Think people. We all need each other.

Beautifully said.

[redwitch]

Well, I know Muncle was kidding in his post and I know I was kidding back. And we both knew Sam was kidding when she suggested we get together. (I think our differences in politics would have us trying to kill each other at least every four years. rofl)

Being single actually has some advantages. Yes, you miss the companionship, the friendship, the love but you have a certain independence that is missing when you're in a relationship. I was lucky that I chose my singledom. Marriage truly was not my cup of tea. At the same time, I've had two wonderful men in my life and I've loved both dearly and passionately. Fortunately, they're both still friends and we wish nothing but the best for each other.

However, I'm not sure what any of this has to do with the original post. No question that TV does favor couples in almost everything when it comes to fees. And it isn't fair to singles. We don't take up as much space, we don't use the facilities as much as couples yet we are charged the same fees. Oh, well, it could be worse -- we could be married (those of us who want to be single).

[jerseygirl008]

I like to say . . . Life isn't fair. Sometimes we don't get to pick our circumstances.

I have enjoyed the comedy of Muncle, the tenderness of the poster who has "been away from the site for a while", and the compassion of Redwitch and Sam. I do believe the proverbial nail was hit on the head when it was said that we will all be SINGLE at some point, by choice or not, so lets all support each other. That's cool. I get the strong feeling that singles are supported in TV. That is what attracted me the most as I did not miss the obvious ~IT'S A COUPLES PLACE ~

I'm hoping, and banking on the hope, that when I move to TV (single by divorce), I will be just as important in the scheme of things, as all of you couples. Yippee to that !!!

[Muncle]

Boy, all of a sudden we've gotten serious. I can do that, too.

Yes, it is a couples world. From the days of job hunting to retirement, the business world leans to married people. And as a lifelong single, I can say that this is a logical policy in most cases. Obviously there are exceptions, but for the most part, the married person is more stable and reliable than the single and from the employers' view, a much safer employee. A single person is far more apt to leave a position they dislike without a safety net. I know that throughout my career, I always felt that not having anyone dependent upon my earnings gave me a freedom my coworkers didn't have. And to be honest, I took less BS from bosses. Yes, there are exceptions!!

Re the work hassles of the single, this is an employer shortcoming. In a day to day workplace, the single is expected to do things because they don't have a family at home. Work late. Take that last minute trip to Detroit in January. Maybe move to the new office on the other side of town or even out of the area. In all these things, it's assumed that it is easier for the single to be inconvenienced. And when that promotion comes down to you and another, well, Jim has a wife and 6 kids. He needs the money more than you do. Yes, there are exceptions!!

And the social world is not different -- well, it is different in that there are two separate social worlds. The married's social life revolves around the family, be it the neighborhood, the school and church programs, or the club. Once you limit the situation to adults, it's no better. Dinners, parties, everything is done in twos. Initially the single is invited, hoping they will bring a "significant other." If those "others" start changing too often, the invites begin to wane. Understandable, in that you have a new person who has to break in each time, but an unfortunate situation. Yes, there are exceptions!!

But just because it is a couples world doesn't mean that's a bad thing. Like so many others, I've chosen to be single. One of the main reasons is that I really enjoy my life. If I'd had a family, I wouldn't have done near the things I've done over the last 30+ years. Hopefully, I'd have not wanted to. My lack of responsibility for others has allowed me to move when and where I wanted. I was able to take advantage of opportunities I might not have under different circumstances. Often over the years, married coworkers would comment about my lifestyle, sometimes hinting or even stating that they'd love to trade places. I always felt that somewhat absurd. When I was hanging around the clubs in KC, St. Louis, DC, or Germany and a married guy would join the group, you were pretty sure that in a short time, he'd be gone or single. Same with the women.

For so many in TV, they are or will be entering a strange new world. As I've said (and said), I've been single forever and am happy with my life. However, a lot of Villagers and wannabes will be single for the first time in their adult lives. Women seem to adapt to this situation much better than men, but it's tough for both. In my opinion, TV is probably one of the easiest places around to be single. Yeah, I commented a bit about some pricing situations --- hey, most of it was a joke :joke: --- but most stuff here is pretty fair. And there are a plethora of opportunities for the single person, whether it be an unmarried or a member of a couple who chooses to do something without their spouse. Sometimes it's difficult for a single person to break the ice in a new group, sometimes you want to hide at a table in the corner behind a post, but in TV there always seems to be someone who's been there, who'll lead you into the group. Yes, there are exceptions!!

Can I go back to being a smart-ass sarcastic :edit: now?

[redwitch]

I dunno Muncle, I rather like this side of you. The funny, sarcastic side is okay, but it's nice to see this side, too. Hmmmmmm, maybe Sam's idea isn't that bad, after all.

[Village Kid 2]

Red, can I still be a bridesmaid? I had the dress all picked out. VK

[redwitch]

roflao ... Sure (and I hope we're talking about Kathie's dad).