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Freeda 11-10-2021 07:45 AM

We bought an Evolution lithium battery cart recently after always having had golf carts, and are thrilled with the ease of charging, and the smooth, quiet ride.

Tyrone Shoelaces 11-10-2021 07:49 AM

One more vote for the EZGO Elite lithium.
9K miles, zero issues, 60 miles range at 24mph.
rated for 2500 cycles (charge from 30% to 100%)
Thats past my expiration date.🎚

Travelhunter123 11-10-2021 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 2027354)
I have an electric with lithium. It has over 9000 miles and 2 1/2 years on it. I got 65-70 miles per charge on day 1 (a little less with heat or air cond running) and still get 65-70 per charge almost 3 years later (zero battery degradation). As for "time to charge" I plug it in once every 5-6 days at night and by morning it is fully charged. The charger is built in (like a Tesla :) ) and I just plug it in to the wall. No fuss, no need to go to a gas station or dump gas from a gas can,

My only suggestion is, **IF** you choose to get electric **ONLY** get lithium.

If you are going to go electric, check out the Atomic golf carts
They are;
Air Conditioned
Heated
Much more leg room
Adjustable seats
Windshield wipers and washer
Sirius XM Radio
Back up camera
Real headlights
Street legal
And much more
Similar price to Yamaha and Ezgo
I love mine would never get anything else

ThirdOfFive 11-10-2021 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Laura Pintar (Post 2027331)
We have had our gas cart for 5 years and like the quiet of electric plus no need to go get gas offen. Heard Starr and par car not good, but what about EZ GO with new Lithium battery

You run out of gas on some cart path somewhere, and it's a relatively easy matter for someone to get some gas to you. I'm thinking running out of electricity under the same scenario would be an entirely different matter.

jmaccallum 11-10-2021 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Laura Pintar (Post 2027331)
We have had our gas cart for 5 years and like the quiet of electric plus no need to go get gas offen. Heard Starr and par car not good, but what about EZ GO with new Lithium battery

EZGO has two 72 volt electric cart versions, Elite Lithium and and Deep Cycle (the one you water). Comparisons:

Both are 72 volt, however the Elite Lithium actually runs on a 56 volt system. The Deep Cycle is a true 72 volt system.

The Elite Lithium has a 11.7 hp (8.7 kW) motor. The Deep Cycle has a whopping 22.4 hp (16.7 kW) motor. For reference, gas carts have 13.5 hp motors. Deep Cycle power smokes a gas cart without smoking.

Both have AC controllers. The Elite has a 235 amp while the DeepCycle has a whopping 350 amp. More torque with the Deep Cycle, but both blow away the measly torque of a gas cart.

Both have direct drive motor shaft versus a clutch on gas carts. That’s why they get up and go so quick unless waiting behind a gas cart to slooowly get going especially up hills - say we have no hills in Florida - just get behind a gas cart when coming out of a tunnel or going across one of the big bridges, especially Spanish Springs!

The Elite Lithium requires no battery maintenance. The Deep Cycle requires watering. Watering once a month takes about 20 minutes or less than 5 minutes if you fork out $400 at the start for a watering kit. Then it’s less time and less messy than fueling up a gas cart.

Battery(ies) for both carts will last 7-8 years if taken care of - mainly watering Deep Cycle. At 5 years, cost to replace batteries on Deep Cycle is break even with gas cart’s fuel and maintenance over the same period. Get eight years out of the batteries and you are about $800 to $1,000 less than a gas cart over the same period.

Distance of travel will be about 25% more with Deep Cycle as compared to the Elite Lithium. Both will go from Spanish Springs to Fenny, play 18 holes of golf, and sight see on the way home with a lot of charge to spare.

Never visit a gas station with either, just plug in at home each night.

Cost per mile is about 2 cents for both versus 8 cents for a gas cart (does not include gas cart maintenance).

And, keep in mind these are not the 48 volt electric carts that formed most peoples opinion on electric carts. These are 72 volt, high torque, powerful, low maintenance carts with exceptional range.

As far as EZGO as a company, they are over 3 times bigger than their closest competitor.

I’m partial to the EZGO 72 volt Deep Cycle because I have a 2018. Best performing cart I’ve ever had. No maintenance except tire pressure and battery watering (get the watering kit). However, both are great carts. Smooth quiet ride, and no stink!

Hope this helps :popcorn:

Tyrone Shoelaces 11-10-2021 08:04 AM

Run out of gas or charge and you've kinda "got what ya had comin to ya"
With the gauge of either blaring at you.

ThirdOfFive 11-10-2021 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Travelhunter123 (Post 2027462)
If you are going to go electric, check out the Atomic golf carts
They are;
Air Conditioned
Heated
Much more leg room
Adjustable seats
Windshield wipers and washer
Sirius XM Radio
Back up camera
Real headlights
Street legal
And much more
Similar price to Yamaha and Ezgo
I love mine would never get anything else

Wow! Sounds more like an expensive automobile than a golf cart.

But how much electricity do all those gizmos use? I'm only guessing here...but if you use items such as the heater or the A/C routinely, it cuts into your range significantly.

Bay Kid 11-10-2021 08:09 AM

You either like a battery cart or you own gas. Give me gas.

Tyrone Shoelaces 11-10-2021 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 2027477)
You either like a battery cart or you own gas. Give me gas.

A jerky, smelly, noisy, hot cart that has NO guts? M'kay

rsmurano 11-10-2021 08:20 AM

Lithium batteries are going to run you a few thousand more $800-$900, depending on size of the lithium batteries, many thousands more. Over 8 years, is the cost justified of changing the batteries out vs doing an oil change/tune up each year?

Warcats 11-10-2021 08:23 AM

golf carts
 
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Originally Posted by Laura Pintar (Post 2027331)
We have had our gas cart for 5 years and like the quiet of electric plus no need to go get gas offen. Heard Starr and par car not good, but what about EZ GO with new Lithium battery

I wish I had gotten a gas one.Moved here 5 months ago and didn't realize how important a good cart is here. From North of Sumpter I couldn't do a long drive say down to Fenney and back as battery life may not be enough.
Also didn't realize how cool it can get. Cool? Heck down right cold.LOL Will be trading in for a new one.

JTLoehnert 11-10-2021 08:34 AM

In Amelia too and also from Columbus. What part? I have an Evolution lithium cart, love it.

Tomas 11-10-2021 09:18 AM

Big difference when it comes to distance and refueling.
 
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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2027337)
The range of a gas cart is about 2 to 2.5 times longer than an electric cart, the refuel time for gas is way shorter than electric. I cannot comment on the economics price of gas and maintenance versus cost of replacement batteries and charging, I will leave this to others.

You can fill up a gas cart in a few minutes - charging a battery - longer of course

jrref 11-10-2021 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2027474)
Wow! Sounds more like an expensive automobile than a golf cart.

But how much electricity do all those gizmos use? I'm only guessing here...but if you use items such as the heater or the A/C routinely, it cuts into your range significantly.

I have an atomic car and while the A/C and heater does cut the amount of range it's not "significant" surprisingly. Yes its like a small car. I like it because it has a metal cage around you and steel safety bars in the doors. I'm sure it's not as safe as a "real" car but way safer than a traditional golf cart where some people drive around without seat belts and with their leg hanging out of the cart. The 4 door Atomic cart is actually a little cheaper than a fully equipped EZGo electric cart. We like it a lot.

Also some people say, " the gas cart can go from one end of the Villages to the other while an electric may not make it " but i'm not sure many go that far often. For us in Osceola Hills it will take us 56 minutes by cart and 15 minutes by car to go to Fenney so we take the car for trips to Fenney. On the other hand to get to Ezell it will take us 25 minutes so we would probably take the cart.

collie1228 11-10-2021 10:08 AM

I replaced by Club Car electric cart with a new Yamaha Quiet 2, and while I love the Yamaha, I miss the extreme quiet and good acceleration of the Club Car. I thought about an EZ-GO lithium cart, but I think resale is going to be a problem. If you try to sell a lithium cart with 5 years on the batteries, be prepared for a big discount on its value.


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