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Mortal1 11-10-2021 10:15 AM

Don't forget...
 
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Originally Posted by Robbie0723 (Post 2027364)
Have an EZGO lithium with 4k mi, no problems, 70mi range, 8 yr warranty on battery with virtually no maintenance, 3 hr for full recharge, quiet, good acceleration, no exhaust fumes.

non-green energy to make your cart and battery and the energy you charge your cart with isn't green either...then the cost of refurbishing or disposing of the batteries.

Green energy people do not either understand how things work or just ignore the obvious.

wjg74 11-10-2021 10:42 AM

What are this carts costing .?

Win1894 11-10-2021 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Pachine58 (Post 2027442)
So electric and green lithium batteries are great. But from a save the planet aspect they are a nightmare to the earth and humans. From the destruction of the forests to mine the lithium, poor wages and working conditions paid to minors.

The biggest problem is how to dispose of the millions of batteries each year. But when the battery comes to the end of its life, its green benefits fade. If it ends up in a landfill, its cells can release problematic toxins, including heavy metals. And recycling the battery can be a hazardous business, warns materials scientist Dana Thompson of the University of Leicester. Cut too deep into a Tesla cell, or in the wrong place, and it can short-circuit, combust, and release toxic fumes.

Thank you. These are great points that never seem to come out in the MSM regarding so called renewable energy sources - solar, wind, and battery storage. So the point is don't buy an EV to save the earth.

btwalker 11-10-2021 10:50 AM

On our lifestyle visit we had an ezgo lithium and absolutely loved it. I would not be concerned at all about range as we went from Marsh Bend to palmer and golfed 27 holes, then to Lake Sumter for early dinner and back down to Marsh Bend and still had 2/3 charge. From what I experienced going to full charge was only a couple of hours in most use cases.

That said we bought Yamaha gas for a few reasons.
1. It was available and the ezgo was not at the time.
2. The only electric we found available was the evolution and we couldn't find a lot of information about their history/reliability
3. The yamaha was a more comfortable ride then both the Ezgo and Evolution.

Villages Kahuna 11-10-2021 10:53 AM

Easy choice for me. I’ve owned, used as and been totally satisfied with E-Z-GO “wet” electric carts for more than 20 years. My batteries will need replacement in a year or so. When that’s needed, I intend to replace my wet batteries with lithium ion. My battery dealer-service provider, Battery Boys, tells me they can install Li batteries that will give me as much range as I need here in The Villages. They’re expensive, but need no maintenance and have a very long 100% warranty.

Baldbaron 11-10-2021 10:56 AM

Gimme an L, gimme an I, etc...
 
We've had our EZ-GO Elite for about a year, and we couldn't be happier with it. It cost a premium $17k from Villages Golf Carts, but there is basically NO maintenance, 60+ miles of range in the two lithium battery packs, and with an 8-year warranty it'll probably be here when I ain't.

In the great Chugger/Hummer argument, I'm smack on the Hummer side!

DAVES 11-10-2021 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Laura Pintar (Post 2027331)
We have had our gas cart for 5 years and like the quiet of electric plus no need to go get gas offen. Heard Starr and par car not good, but what about EZ GO with new Lithium battery

This has been discussed over and over again. NOTHING IS PERFECT.

Lithium batteries have gotten cheaper, the reason why where they used to used nicads in rechargeable tools, Lithium batteries are taking over. They are lighter for the same capacity. It is even more so in a golf cart lead acid vs lithium.

A lead acid battery, the voltage falls off as the battery discharges making it easy and cheap to measure the remaining charge. Lead is also heavy. A lithium battery has a flat voltage curve, making it more difficult, less accurate and expensive to monitor the remaining run time.

Claimed range? The stated range, is likely optimistic and it goes down as batteries age.
Also, if you run the lights that too will cost you range.

Noise-I think the noise is a plus. People, perhaps even unaware of it can hear you are there.

DAVES 11-10-2021 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna (Post 2027604)
Easy choice for me. I’ve owned, used as and been totally satisfied with E-Z-GO “wet” electric carts for more than 20 years. My batteries will need replacement in a year or so. When that’s needed, I intend to replace my wet batteries with lithium ion. My battery dealer-service provider, Battery Boys, tells me they can install Li batteries that will give me as much range as I need here in The Villages. They’re expensive, but need no maintenance and have a very long 100% warranty.

I suggest you check. Changing from lead acid to lithium you will likely need a new charger and to replace the gauge that indicates state of charge.

DAVES 11-10-2021 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortal1 (Post 2027588)
non-green energy to make your cart and battery and the energy you charge your cart with isn't green either...then the cost of refurbishing or disposing of the batteries.

Green energy people do not either understand how things work or just ignore the obvious.

When, SELLING, anything you point out the positives not the negatives. How things work?
I've wondered how memory in a digital camera works. I've asked,"experts," and discovered they don't know either. Best answer was vodoo.

Cneigoot 11-10-2021 11:26 AM

Electric cat
 
Please do yourself a service and check out the evolution golf carts at Village Discount Golf. I bought mine 2 months ago and absolutely loved it! Also, I think that they are less expensive than some of the other electric golf carts made by brand names like Yamaha Etc. The guy I worked with was called Ron Evans. They will work with you on a good deal. Good luck!

Tbrazie 11-10-2021 12:03 PM

ecart
 
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Originally Posted by Laura Pintar (Post 2027331)
We have had our gas cart for 5 years and like the quiet of electric plus no need to go get gas offen. Heard Starr and par car not good, but what about EZ GO with new Lithium battery

We have the EVOLUTION electric with Li battery and love it. Check it out.

spofford 11-10-2021 12:11 PM

We have a after market lithium battery in 2019 Club Car. Runs all over the villages and have built in charger on board. If you are nervous about distance,(we get 50 plus miles a Charge and a high speed motor), all you need is a heavy duty extension cord to charge. .
Also have a 2001 Club Car with lead acid batteries and we comfortable with a range of 35 miles.Our battery life had been 3.5 years, as golf cart does sit for 3 months a year.

Vermilion Villager 11-10-2021 01:38 PM

I wonder if they will install chargers at or near the town squares especially the new ones? Makes business sense to do that...go shopping or eating (AKA spend money) or dancing while you battery gets a quick charge....win/win!

dewilson58 11-10-2021 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Travelhunter123 (Post 2027462)
If you are going to go electric, check out the Atomic golf carts
They are;
Air Conditioned
Heated
Much more leg room
Adjustable seats
Windshield wipers and washer
Sirius XM Radio
Back up camera
Real headlights
Street legal
And much more
Similar price to Yamaha and Ezgo
I love mine would never get anything else

Forgot to mention...................You get to slam the doors twice per golf shot!!!!! LOVELY!!!!

Flyers999 11-10-2021 03:29 PM

I purchased a 2012 Yamaha 48-v YRDE electric five years ago when my wife and I moved to The Villages. I bought it from a person on craigslist. It needed a dashboard and enclosure, which I bought from The Villages Golf carts in Spanish Springs. Total I paid $4k. Last year, I replaced the batteries(Motive), which I bought, again from the same place(TV Golf Carts) for $1000. I’m able to play any golf course North of 466A, so I’m going to stick with the electric; for now, I’m happy paying $1k every four years for batteries. I should mention that I only use the cart for golf, if I used it for everyday errands I would get a gas cart with metal/glass doors.

There’s no right answer here. As mentioned, the gas carts are smelly, noisy and they need period maintenance that any gas engine needs, i.e., change oil, sparkplugs, etc. There’s no such thing as a quiet gas engine. Ever hear of a quiet motorcycle or gas lawn mower? Many of the Villages cart paths go near homes. How would you like for a motorcycle to pass next to your back yard every three minutes? Even the aforementioned Yamaha Quiet-tech is not as quiet as an electric cart. And all of them get louder the older they get.

As far as the environment, 80% of a Lead-Acid battery is recycled.
Lead-Acid Battery Recycling: What You Need to Know - CJD E-Cycling
The same can’t be said for a Lithium battery. On the other hand, a Lithium battery lasts longer so fewer of them are disposed of every year.

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