[katezbox]

Originally Posted by Pturner

Ah yes, Hollywood's version of our justice system. In that movie, the audience was certain beyond a reasonable doubt that the suspect did it. That movie played on and helped propagate the romantic and erroneous notion that a defendant must be found guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Hurray for Hollywood.

PT - I think Hollywood has a lot more impact here than that:

1. If Nancy Grace, a harpy if there ever was one, hadn't made created such a tidal wave over Caylee going missing, then perhaps the DA may have been able to try Casey without a capital murder charge. As it stood, there was too much of a spotlight on this for the state to lead with a lesser charge. As Dillywho has pointed out, what about all the other children that are missing? Where is the justice for them? The answer is in Nancy Grace's ratings based on Caylee's sweetness in her photos and videos.

2. People tend to believe that all crime scene evidence will be as clear as when it is shown on CSI. The prosecution had to meet ridiculous and impossible expectations.

3. Of course the defendant must be found guilty without any "reasonable doubt." When someone's life is at stake - reasonable gets to be a bit tougher. With a Ted Bundy and other serial killers, there is such a pattern that it is easier.

Do I believe she is connected with Caylee's death? Absolutely. Could I vote to convict her of felony murder based on the evidence presented? No.

My dad always told me that what goes around will come around. If you do a good deed - it will be paid back many times over - and vice versa. This likely is bad news for Casey.

[dillywho]

No one has asked anyone to agree with the verdict. I was as surprised as most anyone when the three "Not Guilty" verdicts came in. I did not expect a guilty on Count One, but could see the possibilty on one of the other two. I am certain that she knows what happened to her child and why. She has to live with whatever that is.

What disturbs me above and beyond all else, is the lynch-mob mentality, some of which is directed at the jurors by the way, and the lack of respect being shown for our court system. Maybe it does have flaws, but the basic concept is sound. Television and all the access to what it has to offer was not even a dream when the system was born, much less a reality. There were no Nancy Graces building hatred toward someone on a nightly basis. Many have said they don't want to read the books that will surely be written or the ensuing movies because of the money to be made, but I can assure you, Nancy Grace is a whole lot more interested in her own pocketbook than any of the little Caylee Anthonys or Trenton Ducketts. The same can be said for many of the others out there. She is not alone, just the worst of the lot.

These 12 (acutally 17) people were charged with a job and did it to the best of their ability and conscience. That is more than can be said for those who refuse to even serve. I fault them for their unwillingness to do so, but in light of this, who can really blame them? They just might be on to something. Self-preservation, perhaps? Maybe they just don't think it's worth the price if their decision has to be an unpopular one.

If anyone should be faulted for the verdicts, it should be the State. They failed to prove to these jurors that she was guilty of the charges. That was and is their job. The defense has to prove absolutely nothing.

We hold ourselves up to the rest of the world as the greatest nation in the world, all the while telling them that anyone in America is to be "presumed innocent until proven guilty" and that that is part of what makes us so great. The outrage and disrepect for the very system we claim to value so highly that is being broadcast around the world screams volumes to the contrary.

This is something I feel very strongly about. (Betcha couldn't have guess that, huh?) All the ones you see on tv trashing the verdicts and especially the jurors are no better than their perception of Casey. They just want their 15 minutes of fame. When asked why she came to Subrban Drive and Hope Spring Drive, one lady said, "I just wanted to say I had been here."

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by kentucky blue

As i heard somebody say today,"they found the only 12 people alive that still thinks the world is flat."

I have to agree.

Angry and sad this morning, your humor is comforting.

[Maryland Girl]

I'm not an attorney, but it seemed to me there was a preponderance of evidence to convict, even if on a lesser charge. The defense threw in molestation and accidental drowning to create a reason to doubt-not the same as reasonable doubt. I don't believe the jury took time to thoroughly go through the evidence. The verdict came back too quickly for them to have done so. How could they not find Casey at least guilty of child neglect since she was the one responsible for her baby that was missing for 31 days while she 'conducted her own investigation.' People have had their children removed from their care for lesser offenses. That beautiful child, thrown out like garbage. It is so disgusting.

Even more disgusting was what the Chief Prosecutor said in his prepared remarks..they will now move on the prosecuting the 11 child deaths they have pending. I once heard that the character of a nation can be looked at in light of how they threat their young and their elderly. Each one of us can draw their own conclusion as to how our nation stacks up under such scrutiny.

[2BNTV]

Casey was found "not guilty" but I don't think she is innocent.

Like I said, I haven't followed every detail of this trial but this is what bothers me. I tend to think that any "normal parent" who is missing their child for even a short period of time would be frantic and trying to do everything in their power to find them.

My impression is that she is a very troubled individual who needs to get mental help in dealing with her issues.

It's too late for the adorable Caylee. So sad.

Just sayin...........

[ajbrown]

I just bumped into this when logging into my comcast account. Here is some insight from an alternate juror...

http://xfinity.comcast.net/video/ins...or/2043051118/

[katezbox]

Originally Posted by dillywho

No one has asked anyone to agree with the verdict. I was as surprised as most anyone when the three "Not Guilty" verdicts came in. I did not expect a guilty on Count One, but could see the possibilty on one of the other two. I am certain that she knows what happened to her child and why. She has to live with whatever that is.

What disturbs me above and beyond all else, is the lynch-mob mentality, some of which is directed at the jurors by the way, and the lack of respect being shown for our court system. Maybe it does have flaws, but the basic concept is sound. Television and all the access to what it has to offer was not even a dream when the system was born, much less a reality. There were no Nancy Graces building hatred toward someone on a nightly basis. Many have said they don't want to read the books that will surely be written or the ensuing movies because of the money to be made, but I can assure you, Nancy Grace is a whole lot more interested in her own pocketbook than any of the little Caylee Anthonys or Trenton Ducketts. The same can be said for many of the others out there. She is not alone, just the worst of the lot.

These 12 (acutally 17) people were charged with a job and did it to the best of their ability and conscience. That is more than can be said for those who refuse to even serve. I fault them for their unwillingness to do so, but in light of this, who can really blame them? They just might be on to something. Self-preservation, perhaps? Maybe they just don't think it's worth the price if their decision has to be an unpopular one.

If anyone should be faulted for the verdicts, it should be the State. They failed to prove to these jurors that she was guilty of the charges. That was and is their job. The defense has to prove absolutely nothing.

We hold ourselves up to the rest of the world as the greatest nation in the world, all the while telling them that anyone in America is to be "presumed innocent until proven guilty" and that that is part of what makes us so great. The outrage and disrepect for the very system we claim to value so highly that is being broadcast around the world screams volumes to the contrary.

This is something I feel very strongly about. (Betcha couldn't have guess that, huh?) All the ones you see on tv trashing the verdicts and especially the jurors are no better than their perception of Casey. They just want their 15 minutes of fame. When asked why she came to Subrban Drive and Hope Spring Drive, one lady said, "I just wanted to say I had been here."

Dilly,

As you may have seen from my post - we seem to have dads that were made from good stuff! I think you have this absolutely right.

I too believe she was involved in whatever happened to little Caylee. But we will never know...

Kate

[Talk Host]

When I was in my teens, my father was the foreman on a jury for a murder trial in Wellsburg, WV.

When he finally came home, he said, "well, we let a murderer go free."

As a teen, I didn't understand. He explained that the prosecution's case was weaker than the defense case.

[EdV]

She was found not guilty but is and will always be a despicable excuse for a human being in my mind.

[senior citizen]

Originally Posted by katezbox

PT - I think Hollywood has a lot more impact here than that:

1. If Nancy Grace, a harpy if there ever was one, hadn't made created such a tidal wave over Caylee going missing, then perhaps the DA may have been able to try Casey without a capital murder charge. As it stood, there was too much of a spotlight on this for the state to lead with a lesser charge. As Dillywho has pointed out, what about all the other children that are missing? Where is the justice for them? The answer is in Nancy Grace's ratings based on Caylee's sweetness in her photos and videos.

2. People tend to believe that all crime scene evidence will be as clear as when it is shown on CSI. The prosecution had to meet ridiculous and impossible expectations.

3. Of course the defendant must be found guilty without any "reasonable doubt." When someone's life is at stake - reasonable gets to be a bit tougher. With a Ted Bundy and other serial killers, there is such a pattern that it is easier.

Do I believe she is connected with Caylee's death? Absolutely. Could I vote to convict her of felony murder based on the evidence presented? No.

My dad always told me that what goes around will come around. If you do a good deed - it will be paid back many times over - and vice versa. This likely is bad news for Casey.

I agree with everything you said.........such as re the serial killers.
Plus her Karma certainly will not put her on a happy life path.

I can always see both sides of an issue and believe it or not, do not feel hate as some people feel towards her. Her pattern began in childhood due to a dysfunctional family.......it doesn't matter if the house was perfect and everything was done "right".......something in that family was very wrong.
None of them were in touch with their true feelings. I found George "odd" when he was in jail visiting and said "HELLO BEAUTIFUL". Apparently, they had been estranged.........but then Casey told him he was a wonderful Dad.
Go figure. There are people who "say all the right things" or things they think they should say............but do not mean it.

[kentucky blue]

Originally Posted by katezbox

Dilly,



I too believe she was involved in whatever happened to little Caylee. But we will never know...

Kate

We will find out, she will get drunk at one of those nightclubs she hangs out at, and tell her "date" for the evening the whole story.She has got to tell somebody how she pulled off this despicable crime, and brag about getting away with it.It's only a matter of time before the entire story will come out, and there's not a damn thing anybody can do about it.Another jury, just like O.J.'s, where is the JUSTICE !!!!!

[festusrules]

I wonder how many of those jurors would like her to babysit with their kids or grandkids?

If it was an accident why did they not own up to it? Why did she end up in a swamp?

The jurors should be ashamed of themselves.

[LittleDog]

Aren't charges still pending regarding her using Amy Huizingas check book and stealing from her Mother and grandparents? It would be hard to believe that she will get away with stealing money.

John

[Freeda]

Originally Posted by jrheydt

Aren't charges still pending regarding her using Amy Huizingas check book and stealing from her Mother and grandparents? It would be hard to believe that she will get away with stealing money.

John

Good point. In all the attention to the murder case these other charges had faded from thought. Hopefully these will keep her confined for at least a while. Probably best for her, too.

On the verdict, it is just an example that the price of freedom for all of us, to minimize the even worse tragedy of imprisonment (or even execution) of the innocent, is that sometimes wrongdoers go free. It's not a perfect system, but it still is the best on earth.

[PennBF]

I finally get it..!! A poor baby has been killed so lets kill someone. It does
not matter if we can prove the person did it, it's more important that we kill
somone so we feel better. Hey, the mother has lied in her life so lets kill her
and that will make us feel better. Not sure if she killed her child but that is not important. What is important is that we kill someone so we feel better.
Can you believe 12 stupid people who heard all the evidence said we could not kill her. That is not good enough, we have to kill someone so even though those crazy people want evidence lets still kill the mother. That will make us feel better. Justice and law is not important. What is important is our feelings and we want to feel better so lets kill her.

"I consider trial by jury as the only anchor ever yet imagined by man, by which a government can be held to the principles of its
constitution." --Thomas Jefferson to Thomas Paine, 1789.

I guess Jefferson was not ready to kill someone to feel better?