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Old 09-06-2015, 08:04 AM
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Absolutely right. This is not California.

We all know there are coyotes around but there is no need for general alarm and panic by anyone.

ONE unfortunate dog got snatched. Out in the yard inleashed after midnight.

Use common sense and you have no worries from coyotes.
2015 Florida:

St Pete
Coyote attacks, wounds two German Shepherds
Coyote fights dogs in Pinellas back yard

Melbourne
Coyote eats Fluff, the cat.

Http://www.mynews13.com/content/news...cking_sma.html

what WAS common sense is no longer sensible at all, and those who say so, are you educating yourself on this subject or relying on what used to be true?
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Absolutely right. This is not California.

We all know there are coyotes around but there is no need for general alarm and panic by anyone.

ONE unfortunate dog got snatched. Out in the yard inleashed after midnight.

Use common sense and you have no worries from coyotes.
It's not California, so I guess coyotes have different manners in Florida

I wonder if anyone would complain if there were feral dogs observed in several areas of the villages. They can also attack small animals and humans. Same idea, I believe.

You (whomever) can gaff it off if you wish. Personally, I won't disparage others for wanting more information and for wanting to be prepared for an incident.
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2015 Florida:

St Pete
Coyote attacks, wounds two German Shepherds
Coyote fights dogs in Pinellas back yard

Melbourne
Coyote eats Fluff, the cat.

Http://www.mynews13.com/content/news...cking_sma.html

what WAS common sense is no longer sensible at all, and those who say so, are you educating yourself on this subject or relying on what used to be true?
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Old 09-06-2015, 08:31 AM
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Here is what you can do if, heaven forbid, you do actually encounter a coyote:

What To Do If You See A Coyote | CoyoteSmart

In this article is a link to "easy pickins" which describes why coyotes may be coming into residential areas -- food left out for homeless or feral cats, food left out for pets, fruit on ground from trees, etc.
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Here is what you can do if, heaven forbid, you do actually encounter a coyote:

What To Do If You See A Coyote | CoyoteSmart

In this article is a link to "easy pickins" which describes why coyotes may be coming into residential areas -- food left out for homeless or feral cats, food left out for pets, fruit on ground from trees, etc.
This is also a good article. Coyotes and People: What to Know If You See or Encounter a Coyote : The Humane Society of the United States

I am still going to carry the golf balls at night in case a coyote gets too close. I will have to remember to take into account what direction the golf ball is travelling though. The whistle, screaming, and picking the dog up in my arms would come before throwing a golf ball though.
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This is also a good article. Coyotes and People: What to Know If You See or Encounter a Coyote : The Humane Society of the United States

I am still going to carry the golf balls at night in case a coyote gets too close. I will have to remember to take into account what direction the golf ball is travelling though. The whistle, screaming, and picking the dog up in my arms would come before throwing a golf ball though.
I would worry more about protecting yourself, rather than where the balls might go. The golf balls idea is pretty good and a lot neater than carrying a pocket full of stones, in my opinion. Besides, the only time you would find it necessary to use the golf balls is if you felt threatened by a coyote, and then it would be pretty close and probably an easy target.
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On a lighter side Wile E. Coyote turns 66 on September 17.

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From the article...note this "awareness is the key"...
Gary Morse, with Florida Fish and Wildlife’s regional Lakeland office, says after Aaddie, a small Chihuahua, was taken by a coyote last week as the owner was in the front yard with the dog, it proves urban coyotes are becoming less afraid of humans, and we need to take away their food source. Morse advises residents across the state to not let coyotes or other wild animals threaten you. Instead, use a form of acceptable hazing. Morse says this problem is nationwide and says awareness is key to managing coyotes and other wildlife who are becoming more urbanized. Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation
Why stick to TV - because that is where we live and where this one unleashed pup was snatched from its lawn.

As the article states "awareness" - not fear mongering'

"acceptable hazing" - not trapping and killing.

Please spend as many posts telling people to not put their garbage out until the day of pick-up, to not put out tins of tuna hoping to lure their lost cat back home, to not put out foor for feral animals and similar common sense things to do and not do. I fear your posts are even upsetting people who do not walk pets but just walk for personal exercise and pleasure!

After all - the coyote you saw the other day ran AWAY FROM you and NOT TOWARD.
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...what WAS common sense is no longer sensible at all, and those who say so, are you educating yourself on this subject or relying on what used to be true?
Also need to consider that the average liter size is 5-7 pups.

Coyote are now in all states except HI. There has been numerous coyote sightings and a few confrontations here in my current neck of suburbia of Michigan but we also have an abundance of deer, rabbit, geese, snakes, etc. to keep them fed. I have noticed though in the past year or two that the number of rabbits feasting on my garden has decreased significantly but we also have plenty of hawks and fox that could be contributing to the decrease. Our small dog is never off leash and does not even go on our deck by himself (I've had to take him in because a hawk was directly overhead us).

Everyone needs to educate themselves because the coyote are not going to pack up and leave. Where there's food they will stay. In urban settings they do consider your pets a food source. It will not remain 'just one dog' forever.
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Also need to consider that the average liter size is 5-7 pups.

Coyote are now in all states except HI. There has been numerous coyote sightings and a few confrontations here in my current neck of suburbia of Michigan but we also have an abundance of deer, rabbit, geese, snakes, etc. to keep them fed. I have noticed though in the past year or two that the number of rabbits feasting on my garden has decreased significantly but we also have plenty of hawks and fox that could be contributing to the decrease. Our small dog is never off leash and does not even go on our deck by himself (I've had to take him in because a hawk was directly overhead us).

Everyone needs to educate themselves because the coyote are not going to pack up and leave. Where there's food they will stay. In urban settings they do consider your pets a food source. It will not remain 'just one dog' forever.
It is probably at least two cats and one dog. I do not believe everyone reports these to the police and press. I am not sure I would if that happened to our pet Beau. I would warn people via word of mouth and on TOTV but would probably not get the police nor the press involved.

Beau got out when I was in Washington DC for a week or so in May 2015. The back door was left open for a little bit. My parents called the Villages' radio station. He came back after 45 minutes probably looking for me.

I would not want to relive the loss of Beau though by going to the press and would probably want to keep it private so that people would not be talking to me about it whenever. Having some control over when a tragedy comes up in conversation is one pro for keeping things private.
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Why stick to TV - because that is where we live and where this one unleashed pup was snatched from its lawn.

As the article states "awareness" - not fear mongering'

"acceptable hazing" - not trapping and killing.

Please spend as many posts telling people to not put their garbage out until the day of pick-up, to not put out tins of tuna hoping to lure their lost cat back home, to not put out foor for feral animals and similar common sense things to do and not do. I fear your posts are even upsetting people who do not walk pets but just walk for personal exercise and pleasure!

After all - the coyote you saw the other day ran AWAY FROM you and NOT TOWARD.
I love all animals, wild or domesticated. However, in my opinion you can "haze" them all you want, but when that same coyote comes after my wife, my grandchildren or myself, I will put it down so it won't harm others. You can chase it away from you, and it might go after someone else. That's your option. Ignoring something doesn't make it go away. If they don't trap them and remove them, then they can hardly fault someone for protecting themselves when attacked. Want to take a chance on a nasty bite? Want to undergo rabie shots? I have. If a coyote can take down an adult deer, do you think that you would be too large for it to consider if it is hungry? Not trying to scare anyone, but if you want to gaff off a dangerous nuisance, that's up to you. I doubt I will see a coyote, let alone be accosted by one here, but at least I'll be mentally and physically prepared if needed. Many will wait until their neighbors are injured before taking it seriously. That's their prerogative. It always happens to others, not me....right?
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Landscapers last week notified our neighbors on Bonifay Path about a coyote walking between the houses then ran across the golf course.
I have 2 small dogs so this does concern me.
I don't really care who was here first. My dogs are family and I will do what it takes to protect them.
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Landscapers last week notified our neighbors on Bonifay Path about a coyote walking between the houses then ran across the golf course.
I have 2 small dogs so this does concern me.
I don't really care who was here first. My dogs are family and I will do what it takes to protect them.
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I love all animals, wild or domesticated. However, in my opinion you can "haze" them all you want, but when that same coyote comes after my wife, my grandchildren or myself, I will put it down so it won't harm others. You can chase it away from you, and it might go after someone else. That's your option. Ignoring something doesn't make it go away. If they don't trap them and remove them, then they can hardly fault someone for protecting themselves when attacked. Want to take a chance on a nasty bite? Want to undergo rabie shots? I have. If a coyote can take down an adult deer, do you think that you would be too large for it to consider if it is hungry? Not trying to scare anyone, but if you want to gaff off a dangerous nuisance, that's up to you. I doubt I will see a coyote, let alone be accosted by one here, but at least I'll be mentally and physically prepared if needed. Many will wait until their neighbors are injured before taking it seriously. That's their prerogative. It always happens to others, not me....right?
Oh, MDLNB! In my life I live exposed to the possibility and the potential of property/personal incursions from, deer, bear, moose, gators, possum, squirrels, groundhog, fox, wild turkey, hawks - so the last thing I am is NOT aware of wildlife and do not ignore same. In fact, because of my awareness I take every possible means to avoid it...and that is perhaps why I have not incurred their bite and rabies shots. So you see, I don't 'gaff off' any potential for danger from a nuisance. Nor have I ever suggested that anyone do that - but - have promoted awareness without fear mongering.
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Quite sure there have been coyotes in the villages, particularly in the undeveloped or yet to be developed parts. We just didn't see them because they were wandering about in their natural habitat where there was plenty of prey. So when you take a area like that surrounding Lake Deaton, dig up all the naturally occurring trees and brush, bulldoze it into large piles and set them on fire in order to level the land for building new houses, then you are going to have displaced coyotes wandering about in the open looking for something to eat. I guess they have not been too successful if they consider pets to be a primary food source.....one small dog and possibly a couple of cats on lanais. The cats could just have easily been snatched by a larger sized stray dog, in my opinion. So I believe eventually they will move on to surrounding area which are less inhabited and where they will find abundant shelter and prey.
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