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Read further down it talks about one foot assessment.
Section 3? That pertains to encroachment due to settling and shifting of construction and improvements.
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Section 3? That pertains to encroachment due to settling and shifting of construction and improvements.
Correct. The only reference to a one foot distance is about an "encroachment" of the property line, which is not referring to a one foot distance from the exterior wall. The property line is 5 feet away from the exterior wall. There is nothing in the document that says anything about a one foot distance from the exterior wall.

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I did same goes for out front door I can’t have nothing within 1 foot of neighbors house. If I do and i damage his house I am responsible. it don’t not cover the driveway due to curving, which can make it hard to get out of my garage when brick retaining wall sticks up.
See Post No. 47. You are misreading what the document actually says about a one foot distance.
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I did same goes for out front door I can’t have nothing within 1 foot of neighbors house. If I do and i damage his house I am responsible. it don’t not cover the driveway due to curving, which can make it hard to get out of my garage when brick retaining wall sticks up.
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Section 3? That pertains to encroachment due to settling and shifting of construction and improvements.
So why when people put pavers down or concrete there alway one foot area from owners side of the house or out front door? I read several years ago somebody concrete the space up to neighbors house and had to remove it. I will not put myself in situations to damage my neighbors property.
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So why when people put pavers down or concrete there alway one foot area from owners side of the house or out front door? I read several years ago somebody concrete the space up to neighbors house and had to remove it. I will not put myself in situations to damage my neighbors property.
I don't know about pavers or concrete. This thread was about a grill.

Maybe we can put the one foot issue to bed...

1. There are two people on here who have looked at the deed restrictions and cannot find the one foot that you mention. You have looked at the deed restrictions and the only mention of one foot you have found concerns an encroachment by an improvement. There just doesn't seem to be anything in the deed restrictions about placing non-fixed items (grills) within one foot of the wall.

2. Most grills cannot be placed within one foot of the wall. When I open the cover to my grill it swings back and takes up space behind the grill. If my grill is within a foot of the wall behind it I would not be able to open the cover. Many (not all) grills are like this. It is likely that the grill in question is not closer than one foot to the house anyway.

3. It doesn't matter how far away from the wall the grill is, if it causes damage then the grill owner is responsible. If the grill is three feet away but causes damage the grill owner is still responsible. Placing the grill closer to the house makes it more likely damage will occur but moving it away does not guarantee damage will not occur.

So there does not appear to be a one foot restriction, it is not likely the grill is within one foot of the house anyway, and none of that matters since if the grill causes damage the grill owner is responsible no matter how far away the grill was.
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So if the property line is 5 feet from exterior wall does that mean the bushes she put up against my wall could be a deed violation also if I didn't want them there.
I can't pressure wash behind the bushes which doesn't really upset me like the barbecue but would be good to know in case she gets real difficult about the grill. Thanks.
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So if the property line is 5 feet from exterior wall does that mean the bushes she put up against my wall could be a deed violation also if I didn't want them there.
I can't pressure wash behind the bushes which doesn't really upset me like the barbecue but would be good to know in case she gets real difficult about the grill. Thanks.
The sideyard easement allows your neighbor to landscape the entire 10 foot area inside the fence and between your houses. But, the landscaping cannot touch your house or have anything attached to your house.
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I don't know about pavers or concrete. This thread was about a grill.

Maybe we can put the one foot issue to bed...

1. There are two people on here who have looked at the deed restrictions and cannot find the one foot that you mention. You have looked at the deed restrictions and the only mention of one foot you have found concerns an encroachment by an improvement. There just doesn't seem to be anything in the deed restrictions about placing non-fixed items (grills) within one foot of the wall.

2. Most grills cannot be placed within one foot of the wall. When I open the cover to my grill it swings back and takes up space behind the grill. If my grill is within a foot of the wall behind it I would not be able to open the cover. Many (not all) grills are like this. It is likely that the grill in question is not closer than one foot to the house anyway.

3. It doesn't matter how far away from the wall the grill is, if it causes damage then the grill owner is responsible. If the grill is three feet away but causes damage the grill owner is still responsible. Placing the grill closer to the house makes it more likely damage will occur but moving it away does not guarantee damage will not occur.

So there does not appear to be a one foot restriction, it is not likely the grill is within one foot of the house anyway, and none of that matters since if the grill causes damage the grill owner is responsible no matter how far away the grill was.
I didn't go an actually measure with a tape so it could be 1 1/2 - 2 feet but as you mention the lid will open farther than the grill which would put it within inches off my house.

When they built these houses they put a slab of concrete for grills outside the glass sliding door with front and back of grill facing away from both houses.

That is where the grill is supposed to go.
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I didn't go an actually measure with a tape so it could be 1 1/2 - 2 feet but as you mention the lid will open farther than the grill which would put it within inches off my house.

When they built these houses they put a slab of concrete for grills outside the glass sliding door with front and back of grill facing away from both houses.

That is where the grill is supposed to go.
I haven't stayed in many home rentals but I was always careful to try and leave things the way I found them. I didn't move furniture (or at least I moved it back) and that includes outdoor furniture. I don't know who put things the way I found them, I just took care to leave them there.

Is it possible a previous renter put the grill near your house and the homeowner has no idea it was moved? Perhaps just asking the current renter to use the pad would correct the situation.
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I don't know about pavers or concrete. This thread was about a grill.

Maybe we can put the one foot issue to bed...

1. There are two people on here who have looked at the deed restrictions and cannot find the one foot that you mention. You have looked at the deed restrictions and the only mention of one foot you have found concerns an encroachment by an improvement. There just doesn't seem to be anything in the deed restrictions about placing non-fixed items (grills) within one foot of the wall.

2. Most grills cannot be placed within one foot of the wall. When I open the cover to my grill it swings back and takes up space behind the grill. If my grill is within a foot of the wall behind it I would not be able to open the cover. Many (not all) grills are like this. It is likely that the grill in question is not closer than one foot to the house anyway.

3. It doesn't matter how far away from the wall the grill is, if it causes damage then the grill owner is responsible. If the grill is three feet away but causes damage the grill owner is still responsible. Placing the grill closer to the house makes it more likely damage will occur but moving it away does not guarantee damage will not occur.

So there does not appear to be a one foot restriction, it is not likely the grill is within one foot of the house anyway, and none of that matters since if the grill causes damage the grill owner is responsible no matter how far away the grill was.

So those two people are lawyers? If not it their opinion of interpretation of lawyers jargon.


So most grills you reaching, why just say don’t put crap against neighbors house, if you do you will be responsible for damage. Don’t matter whether it’s rental or not the owner responsibility. You have you opinion and I have mine. I will not put myself in that predicament. Why encourage others? Also the one foot area so I can put termites protection in and for drainage.
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So if the property line is 5 feet from exterior wall does that mean the bushes she put up against my wall could be a deed violation also if I didn't want them there.
I can't pressure wash behind the bushes which doesn't really upset me like the barbecue but would be good to know in case she gets real difficult about the grill. Thanks.
If bushes cause damage you can get relief. I’d be more concerned with irrigation which IMO was stupid putting irrigation pop up und over hang of someone else’s property. It those pop up fail water may shoot up into neighbors addict. I would think in that would be their fault. But, only lawyers can answer that question. And yes I can have opinion.
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If bushes cause damage you can get relief. I’d be more concerned with irrigation which IMO was stupid putting irrigation pop up und over hang of someone else’s property. It those pop up fail water may shoot up into neighbors addict. I would think in that would be their fault. But, only lawyers can answer that question. And yes I can have opinion.
Good point. It was not a good idea for the developer to install about 5 pop-up sprinklers under the eave of someone else's house. If your next door neighbor has a broken sprinkler head, the water can get into your attic and actually flood your house. You should periodically inspect your eaves to make sure this situation is not occurring.
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So those two people are lawyers? If not it their opinion of interpretation of lawyers jargon.
Not lawyers, just proficient in understanding the English language and took the time to read the deed restrictions.


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So most grills you reaching, why just say don’t put crap against neighbors house, if you do you will be responsible for damage. Don’t matter whether it’s rental or not the owner responsibility.
It might be useful to have another look at my number 3.

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You have you opinion and I have mine. I will not put myself in that predicament. Why encourage others? Also the one foot area so I can put termites protection in and for drainage.
I didn't encourage others to do anything, I simply tried to help you to understand what was in that document you signed. I'm done with that now.
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Not lawyers, just proficient in understanding the English language and took the time to read the deed restrictions.




It might be useful to have another look at my number 3.



I didn't encourage others to do anything, I simply tried to help you to understand what was in that document you signed. I'm done with that now.
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