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Hopefully this will be the end of the discussion since I have had a plumber look and fix it. It appears the "expansion" unit was the problem. When he removed it it was very heavy and filled with water. When I held the new one is was relatively light when compared to the old one. That was because it was half air and half water which is right.

As he explained it the cause of the pipe that was broken was because of the "shock" to the pipe because the expansion was bad. He said it would be good for anyone who believed their expansion was faulty to have it checked. He is an excellent plumber and is very fair in his charges. His company is "Holmes Plumbing" and his name is Charlie and his number is 352-787-9554. He is the same person who was at our home within minutes when we called with the broken pipe.


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Hopefully this will be the end of the discussion since I have had a plumber look and fix it. It appears the "expansion" unit was the problem. When he removed it it was very heavy and filled with water. When I held the new one is was relatively light when compared to the old one. That was because it was half air and half water which is right.
As he explained it the cause of the pipe that was broken was because of the "shock" to the pipe because the expansion was bad. He said it would be good for anyone who believed their yexpansion was faulty to have it checked. He is an excellent plumber and is very fair in his charges. His company is "Holmes Plumbing" and his name is Charlie and his number is 352-787-9554. He is the same person who was at our home within minutes when we called with the broken pipe.
Thank you for posting the final results! My expansion tank was replaced year ago. It had small leak.

Now the subject of the push on/off valve assembly that got injected into the post.

Reason I don't like them is due to age, they are ove 12 years old in my house. When ever I have plumbing work done on the system the connect to I have the plumber replace them. Now with screw on/off valve and hose I can replace parts if they start to go bad. Saving me money down the road.
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Expansion tanks go about every 3-5 years
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Although the term expansion tank has been used referring to the diaphragm style tank, even by the manufacturers. The correct term is compression tank. Difference being an expansion tank is a vessel open to atmospheric until piped into a water system. A compression tank is a vessel containing a bladder/diaphragm which is pressurized equal to the domestic water pressure in a system, thereby allowing the expanded water to compress into the bladder inside the compression tank.
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Thanks for clearing up the terms. It is a compression tank as I spent some time with the plumber to understand the purpose, working, etc.
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Does anyone know what it should cost to have the tank changed?
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Does anyone know what it should cost to have the tank changed?
We had a quote of $150 from Torri Plumbing just about a month ago.
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I had Torri replace all my pop-out valves a few years ago. You can buy a new compression tank and install it yourself. Got mine at a plumbing supply on Rolling Acres Rd. A lot less than $150.

Not sure about the psi of compression tank should be equal to the supply pressure. My supply is 55 psi and the tank is 30 psi.
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What we have on our hot water heaters down here is called a Themal Expansion Tank. I've yet to see anywhere, trade publications, code, etc., where they are called compression tanks. Another problem which is common, is that the tanks are not filled with the correct pressure. The pressure should match the water pressure in your house. A recent check of mine revealed it was at 20psi, which is too low. The expansion tanks come set from the factory, but are frequently not checked for correct pressure when the plumbers install them.

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I would guess the pumbers that like them are charging 900% mark up on the 2 dollar trailer park parts
topspinismo: I missed your post until this thread appeared again today.

Actually I had the same plumber install a standard shut off valve and a time later a push-pull valve. he charged the exact same price for both?????????. Interesting enough defects from both were not the valve it self but the lines were they are metal clamped
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We had the push/pull valves in our 2011 built masonry CYV. I had Riley & Sons Plumbers replace 2 of them in both bathroom toilets, I think it cost about $150. I need to have the sinks done next time, which I've got 4 of those.
We had a leak in the valve of our bathroom sink - the push/pull plastic type that I guess are standard issue. I went to ACE Hardware and they put me on to the Shark Bite replacement valve, which was easy to install, as long as you have approximately 1/2" of pipe once you cut off the push/pull valve at its base. I believe the valve was somewhere around $10.
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Old 12-19-2016, 09:08 AM
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When we did a bathroom renovation this is what we found this water supply line. The plumber went as far to put chalk around the screw through the middle of the pipe. It lasted 12 years. Shows the quality of some contractors here.

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Old 12-19-2016, 09:42 AM
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It happens more than people realize. Our neighbor had the hose outlet on a bedroom side blow in between the walls and fill the whole end of the house with water, hardwood floors and drywall a couple feet up had to be replace along with some doors
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Old 12-19-2016, 10:59 AM
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Don't mean to sound neg. but as fast as the contractors put them up & to me when I look around my own house it looks like they don't use top quality materials. They seem to build them just so they last long enough for the warranty to run out, I know some people might read this & think I'm crazy but I'm sure most people don't even know how to change a furnace filter. It's a vendors paradise in TV. Sorry to sound neg. but I do know a little bit about building materials & everyone that have anything to do with any kind of maintenance, selling or vendor are charging to much to get anything done. I've already rebuilt both of my toilets, everything in both bathroom. (Closets) That's the tank that sits on the back of the toilet stool & I'm sure I did it for 1/4 the price that some maintenance guy could of done it for. As far as the valve breaking, yea I can believe it & I bet whoever put the plumbing in didn't replace it for nothing. These homes should be maintenance free for 10 yrs. min.
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Old 12-19-2016, 11:50 AM
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The only problem I have with work, is with the plumbing inspector--how can they allow a hot water heater to be installed, with not enough clearance to remove and install a sacrificial anode--its a maintenance item--(electric water heaters)
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