[nitehawk]

When I first came to TV I could not believe - it really was the friendliest place to live. In the last 8 years I have seen a change - maybe its me or a generation gap but I don't think the quality of the new people, quality is the wrong word
but I dont know the right word for what I am trying to say. I find it hard to explain - but things are changing and not for the better - maybe its me.
I just dont feel that friendliness I used to. I was trying to think what could cause this change - is it where the new people are coming from, what area maybe?
Yes maybe NYC is a lot more unfriendly then other areas and large cities no matter where, could be added to that theory. One thing I thought was maybe the multiple home ownership could be a reason for TV becoming more unfriendly. When I first came here TV discouraged multiple ownership but I think forbid it. As they did not want TV to become and invest property community. I really think they were right in there rules as most of the other rules.
The reason I believe this is if anyone has worked in an area like Bedfort Stuyvesant (Bedfort Sty) in Brooklyn NY, or Harlem in NYC. Well I have and IMO one of reasons they became ghettos is the apartment house and private home were owned by slum lords - the renters only rented and did not own. When the city helped people buy there own home the turn around began. Now to compare there and here. When you live on a block with two or three rental homes the neighborhood is not the same as when everyone owns there own home and works on it and keeps it looking nice. Maybe I have said enough as many posters to TOTV have multiple home and will defend there position - yes this America and everyone has a right to make money and succeed even at the expense of others and yes I know this is not NYC --- I need another drink of Kool-Aid. As you can see I am not and english major forgive my writing that rambles on and my punctuation

[renrod]

Originally Posted by nitehawk

When I first came to TV I could not believe - it really was the friendliest place to live. In the last 8 years I have seen a change - maybe its me or a generation gap but I don't think the quality of the new people, quality is the wrong word
but I dont know the right word for what I am trying to say. I find it hard to explain - but things are changing and not for the better - maybe its me.
I just dont feel that friendliness I used to. I was trying to think what could cause this change - is it where the new people are coming from, what area maybe?
Yes maybe NYC is a lot more unfriendly then other areas and large cities no matter where, could be added to that theory. One thing I thought was maybe the multiple home ownership could be a reason for TV becoming more unfriendly. When I first came here TV discouraged multiple ownership but I think forbid it. As they did not want TV to become and invest property community. I really think they were right in there rules as most of the other rules.
The reason I believe this is if anyone has worked in an area like Bedfort Stuyvesant (Bedfort Sty) in Brooklyn NY, or Harlem in NYC. Well I have and IMO one of reasons they became ghettos is the apartment house and private home were owned by slum lords - the renters only rented and did not own. When the city helped people buy there own home the turn around began. Now to compare there and here. When you live on a block with two or three rental homes the neighborhood is not the same as when everyone owns there own home and works on it and keeps it looking nice. Maybe I have said enough as many posters to TOTV have multiple home and will defend there position - yes this America and everyone has a right to make money and succeed even at the expense of others and yes I know this is not NYC --- I need another drink of Kool-Aid. As you can see I am not and english major forgive my writing that rambles on and my punctuation

[shcisamax]

Nitehawk: I am about to move to TV and, I have to say, everyone seems pretty friendly to me. I get your point that investment properties bring in people who are not vested in the culture per se but I think with the exponential growth, there are enough people moving to TV and making it their principal residence that it will keep the friendliness coming. I sure hope so

[Uptown Girl]

I think it was Will Rogers who said, "You're just about as happy as you make up your mind to be."

Some don't resonate to "happy' or "friendly'..... for whatever reason. Oh Well.

In fairness, one person's perception of 'friendly' may seem way out of line to another.... and that can be in any number of ways, real or imagined.

The Villages is a great place, but individuals decide how they want to behave, whether they live here or not.

[Happinow]

I'm coming from New York State and the people here aren't very friendly. I think it's because a lot of them are stressed. The people in TV aren't so stressed. After all, what's to be stressed about, their next golf game, their pickle ball game, their next luncheon? Folks who aren't living the life as in TV, have a lot to be stressed about. Work, providing for their family, do they even have a job? Kids in school, school activities, not enough family time and the list goes on and on. In TV, for the most part, we are all retired and the next thing we have to do is most likely fun! Not much stress. Our kids are grown, we know what we want out of life now and life is much less stressful and more calm. I'm not sure if I'm making sense but I think that's why people who move to TV may not be so friendly, but if you give them time, they will see that being grumpy gets you nowhere and friendly is the way to go. Did that make any sense??

[Bettiboop]

I've wondered if maybe it has something to do with the fact that it has grown so much. I'm not saying people aren't still friendly - I haven't noticed that so much - but it does seem to have lost a bit of the small town feel that is/was what attracted so many to begin with. Just my observation of course

[kentucky blue]

Originally Posted by shcisamax

Nitehawk: I am about to move to TV and, I have to say, everyone seems pretty friendly to me. I get your point that investment properties bring in people who are not vested in the culture per se but I think with the exponential growth, there are enough people moving to TV and making it their principal residence that it will keep the friendliness coming. I sure hope so

Before i purchased my home in TV,i walked my entire neighborhood and found no rentals,the pride of homeownership was a key for me. With the current economy i don't believe many are still buying homes as investments. All the cost incurred in owning rental homes in TV,and with little or no appreciation in home values,it just doesn't make financial sense.So i think you will be seeing fewer houses for rent in the future,with the villas as the main source of rental properties for the visitors.The current trend seems to be buying a principal residence with the pride of homeownership as the only objective, thus,there will be no rental property community in TV future.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by nitehawk

When I first came to TV I could not believe - it really was the friendliest place to live. In the last 8 years I have seen a change - maybe its me or a generation gap but I don't think the quality of the new people, quality is the wrong word
but I dont know the right word for what I am trying to say. I find it hard to explain - but things are changing and not for the better - maybe its me.
I just dont feel that friendliness I used to. I was trying to think what could cause this change - is it where the new people are coming from, what area maybe?
Yes maybe NYC is a lot more unfriendly then other areas and large cities no matter where, could be added to that theory. One thing I thought was maybe the multiple home ownership could be a reason for TV becoming more unfriendly. When I first came here TV discouraged multiple ownership but I think forbid it. As they did not want TV to become and invest property community. I really think they were right in there rules as most of the other rules.
The reason I believe this is if anyone has worked in an area like Bedfort Stuyvesant (Bedfort Sty) in Brooklyn NY, or Harlem in NYC. Well I have and IMO one of reasons they became ghettos is the apartment house and private home were owned by slum lords - the renters only rented and did not own. When the city helped people buy there own home the turn around began. Now to compare there and here. When you live on a block with two or three rental homes the neighborhood is not the same as when everyone owns there own home and works on it and keeps it looking nice. Maybe I have said enough as many posters to TOTV have multiple home and will defend there position - yes this America and everyone has a right to make money and succeed even at the expense of others and yes I know this is not NYC --- I need another drink of Kool-Aid. As you can see I am not and english major forgive my writing that rambles on and my punctuation

Maybe its the higher humidity.................

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by kentucky blue

Before i purchased my home in TV,i walked my entire neighborhood and found no rentals..

I'm curious ... How could you tell there were no rentals by walking the neighborhood? Most rental homes are identical to other homes, and many have long-term renters. Anyone that I know who owns rental properties maintains them meticulously.

[TrudyM]

I keep my spirits up with the dream of retirement and spending more time with hubby and my mind goes to the last time we spent a week in TV in May.

I am wondering if as many of you have stated that now that it has grown so big that in the winter months it is more crowded and stressful maybe that is making it less friendly seeming.

What I was surprised about was that a lot of developments in resort areas have a minimum rental time some are three some are six month leases only allowed. As I said we have come for a week at a time as my husband is still working. I was happy to be able to come but was surprised that with all the other rules that this was not one TV had.

Still wishing I was in TV.
Trudy

[Graytop]

Originally Posted by Happinow

I'm coming from New York State and the people here aren't very friendly. I think it's because a lot of them are stressed. The people in TV aren't so stressed. After all, what's to be stressed about, their next golf game, their pickle ball game, their next luncheon? Folks who aren't living the life as in TV, have a lot to be stressed about. Work, providing for their family, do they even have a job? Kids in school, school activities, not enough family time and the list goes on and on. In TV, for the most part, we are all retired and the next thing we have to do is most likely fun! Not much stress. Our kids are grown, we know what we want out of life now and life is much less stressful and more calm. I'm not sure if I'm making sense but I think that's why people who move to TV may not be so friendly, but if you give them time, they will see that being grumpy gets you nowhere and friendly is the way to go. Did that make any sense??

After you live here a while some of The Villages Kool Aid will wear off. Don't get me wrong, this is a GREAT place to live, ....and most of the people you meet here are vey nice. It just that some folks can't be happy no matter where they are living and feel the necessity to take it out on others. I've come to the conclusion that some of them just don't feel well physically and that makes them grumpy.....you'll have that anywhere but maybe a little more with an older than average population. Don't misunderstand what I'm saying here,...I'm not saying that older folks are grumpy,...I just don't think that a lot of them feel well and it affects their outlook.

[nitehawk]

No response from our multiple home owner on TOTV ?????

[CSilvestrucci]

I own a home and live here full time. I also have a rental property CYV that I rent to my 23 yr old son who attends college part time. It is maintained just as well as my own home. He is friendly to his neighbors but for the most part he is quiet and stays to himself.

[Xavier]

Originally Posted by nitehawk

When I first came to TV I could not believe - it really was the friendliest place to live. In the last 8 years I have seen a change - maybe its me or a generation gap but I don't think the quality of the new people, quality is the wrong word
but I dont know the right word for what I am trying to say. I find it hard to explain - but things are changing and not for the better - maybe its me.
I just dont feel that friendliness I used to. I was trying to think what could cause this change - is it where the new people are coming from, what area maybe?
Yes maybe NYC is a lot more unfriendly then other areas and large cities no matter where, could be added to that theory. One thing I thought was maybe the multiple home ownership could be a reason for TV becoming more unfriendly. When I first came here TV discouraged multiple ownership but I think forbid it. As they did not want TV to become and invest property community. I really think they were right in there rules as most of the other rules.
The reason I believe this is if anyone has worked in an area like Bedfort Stuyvesant (Bedfort Sty) in Brooklyn NY, or Harlem in NYC. Well I have and IMO one of reasons they became ghettos is the apartment house and private home were owned by slum lords - the renters only rented and did not own. When the city helped people buy there own home the turn around began. Now to compare there and here. When you live on a block with two or three rental homes the neighborhood is not the same as when everyone owns there own home and works on it and keeps it looking nice. Maybe I have said enough as many posters to TOTV have multiple home and will defend there position - yes this America and everyone has a right to make money and succeed even at the expense of others and yes I know this is not NYC --- I need another drink of Kool-Aid. As you can see I am not and english major forgive my writing that rambles on and my punctuation

Huh? I mean, really, huh? You can't expect anyone to take this seriously, can you? Huh?

Xavier

[MelZ]

Are you saying there are "no rude homeowners"? Sure pride of ownership is important but why do we still need deed restrictions?

Who are the majority of the rude people at the rec centers and restaurants? Who are the drivers who can't navigate a rotary? Who are the people who reserve spots at the squares many hours before an event?

If the answer to all the above is renters what do you purpose should be done about them? If not who are they?