[MX rider]

I like the loud horn idea. I actually just pulled up that website to look at them. lol
My wife and I are avid bike riders and runners, we'll be using the MM paths a lot. Actually we would much rather take our bikes than a golf cart when possible.
We also mountain bike, so we know how to share paths and trails.
We never ride side by side unless we're sure there's nobody behind us. It's just common courtesy.

But there's always going to be few self centered douche bags that think they own the road, not just in TV. It's not just cart drivers either, I've seen walkers, runners and bikes do it as well.

Luckily most people do the right thing.

[jrref]

Originally Posted by Jdburns11

My experience is more recent on the bike but generally speaking - I’ve found the large majority of golf carts to wait for an appropriate time to pass or follow behind relatively respectfully for such an opportunity on the MMPs. I will generally stay well right on the path or just stop off to the side if I feel uncomfortable with the situation. I refuse to ride on main thoroughfares Morse, Buena Vista, etc., or without designated lanes except if I was with a large group.

The problem for me is it only takes one distracted or other driver to ruin the biker’s day, week, month or worse.

As a golf cart driver, I also afford generous space and consideration for the others… knowing that there but by the grace of god goes me and I wouldn’t someone passing close. Sometimes the scare of it can induce the biker into an incident without any contact at all.

Long story short - it’s not been my personal observation or experience but it doesn’t surprise me and only takes one incident for serious injury. Let’s all be safe.

Respectfully, DB

And rember all you need to do is hit the cyclist with your golf cart and it's probably over for you financially in addition to any injuries. It's like hitting them with a car. Since most people are older here in the Villages, any injury will probably be catastrophic. Something to consider when trying to do something dangerious to save a few minutes.

[Waltdisney4life]

You’re right this place sucks let’s move north who’s with me?

[tedquick]

My mother taught me to drive defensively when she was giving me driving instructions. I have spent my entire life driving cars, motorcycles, bicycles and now golf carts with the idea that anyone near me is a potential accident waiting to happen and it's my responsibility to make sure that it doesn't. To date it's worked for me. Drive defensively and you'll be OK.

[toeser]

I drive a car, a golf cart, and I ride a bicycle, so I think I have a balanced perspective.

90% of golf cart drivers are reasonable, safe, and courteous. Some could show some improvement, but are O.K. However, that last 2% should be banned from the paths.

The golf cart drivers I fear the most are 1) those who shave by me when passing, and 2) those who cannot stay on their side of the path.

Apparently the idea of slowing down when passing is not safe is lost on some drivers. They try to squeeze between my bike and an oncoming golf cart. That is insane and highly risky. If anyone gets trapped behind me for more than 10 seconds, I look for a place to pull over and let them by, so it's not like I'm taking up their day. What really irritates me is when a golf cart driver will pass me when there is no oncoming traffic, but stays one half in my lane. Do they not pull over to the oncoming lane when passing other cars on the highway?

The other problem is golf cart drivers who will not stay on their side of the painted or implied center line. This is especially high risk when going around blind corners. I have come around more than one corner only to be head to head with an oncoming golf cart in my lane. STOP CUTTING CORNERS.

[MEbner2805]

Originally Posted by Chellybean

Why is it that People driving a golf cart on a golf cart path think they can run bicyclist off the path and swear at them?
I almost seen two carts hit bicyclist today. What are these peoples problem and why do they think they rule the golf cart paths?
Is this entitlement or just complete AHOLES ?
Lets see how much trouble this post causes?

It’s none of that!!! Bicycles and walkers should only be on posted “multimodal” paths! Not every golf cart road is for bikes but no I lists and walkers rudely block golf carts and walkers in middle as I have seen that! Everyone has a attitude on both sides of this issue trust me!!!! If golf cart drivers done want to be blocked by others, then those others should stay off those paths! This assertion will never change here! People in carts like their cars do not want tons obstacles getting somewhere to golf or to a rec center where their activities have a start time. Zoom zoom that’s what it will be. I would never bike or walk on those proprietary golf cart lanes!!!! It’s just stupid and forceful, sure to get people angry! Common sense should rule here!

[DaleDivine]

Originally Posted by Waltdisney4life

You’re right this place sucks let’s move north who’s with me?

Goodbye...

[Rodneysblue]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Ranks right up there with dog poop, property line issues, speeding, Hacienda Hills, impact fee, reverse mortgages, annuities, bad parking posts.

Jus do a search and read all the posts you wish.

And don’t forget Costco 🤭😮🤣

[Bogie Shooter]

[KenLee100]

Originally Posted by Chellybean

Why is it that People driving a golf cart on a golf cart path think they can run bicyclist off the path and swear at them?
I almost seen two carts hit bicyclist today. What are these peoples problem and why do they think they rule the golf cart paths?
Is this entitlement or just complete AHOLES ?
Lets see how much trouble this post causes?

This is a two-way street. I have seen both rude cart drivers and entitled bicycle riders. One should not have superiority over the other. OBEY THE RULES OF THE ROAD. Quite simple. If the police get involved, either can be ticketed. If the court gets involved, either can be fined or charged with a crime. In the words of Rodney King, " Why can't we all just get along?"

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by Toymeister

I have found the only way to discourage the cart drivers from playing chicken with me is to 'talk car' to them. The discourteous cart drivers are the SUVs of the multimodal paths but everyone of them fears a car.

You reach into the cart drivers inner fear by using automotive horns (for bikes). Loudbicycle makes these. Loud Bicycle | Car horn for bikes.

They have two models, the 'mini' which is two diaphragm horns, hi and low pitch. This sounds like a midsized Toyota. Or the 'classic' snail horn, sounds similar to a 1998 Buick LeSabre. Neither model is suitable for cyclists that count bike accessories by the gram, or penny pinchers.

I have both, they have saved both myself and Mrs. Toymeister from non-attentive car drivers and the aggressive cart drivers. Frankly, it snaps the cart drivers out of their aggressiveness like a dog on a shock collar. They can't comprehend that a bike can sound like a car.

For the bike horn haters: if you heard mine you were doing something incredibly stupid!

As both a bike rider and golf cart driver I wish you didn’t post this thread. I am now wondering how many golf cart drivers are considering putting car horns in their carts so they can throw an instant scare into bikers and watch them swerve off the MMP’s in fear? Those horns can work both ways. Everyone simply needs to be courteous.

[Chellybean]

Originally Posted by birdiebill

By Florida law a motorized vehicle passing a bicycle MUST be able to clear the bicycle by three feet. I seldom ride my bike on the multi modal paths, but when I do I ride as near the right side as possible. But where the MMP splits, in most cases there is not room for a golf cart to pass a bicycle and give 3 feet of clearance. At the split MMP I now ride right down the middle to prevent the cart trying to pass. I was nearly hit the only three times I let a cart pass my bike on the split MMP.; the carts missed my handle bar by inches and I was as far to the right of the split MMP as possible.

Yes i have witnessed that also and you can't fix STUPID!!!!!

[Clark124]

I prefer this also. A wave of the hand is appreciated

[Cooperthecat]

I have a GoPro mounted under my handlebars. If I get struck by a careless driver I hope the video proves who was at fault. I ride as far to the right as I can and when someone wants to pass me I slow down when it's safe to pass me. I had a line of 10 golf carts passing me along Meggison rd coming from Southern Oaks one day. The 4th cart passed me at a road crossing with the white post divider at the end of the trail. He squeezed past me pushing me off the trail so he could avoid hitting the post and to stay with his buddies. He didn't stop at the stop sign either. Lucky for him he didn't crash into me or he would be financially responsible for the damages.

A lot of cyclists are using cameras specifically for bicycles and video evidence is hard to beat in court.

It's not hard to believe that most people act in a courteous manner and share the paths respectful of each others safety. The few that don't are heading for trouble.

Golf carts have the same problem with cars respecting their rights and safety. I've had a car cut in front of me making a turn into a mailbox parking lot. I had to slam on my brakes to avoid an accident. I followed them into the parking lot expecting an apology. They instead told me they have the right away over golf carts and that I was supposed to stop for them to make the turn. The passenger was a "Karen" and said I was harassing her as she walked 20 feet towards my cart. She proceeded to call 911. When the police arrived they told her that her and her husband were wrong in their understanding of the law. I have the video of this discussion because I knew it would be hard to believe.

Cars also believe that golf carts are not allowed to merge at the end of a diamond lane. I had a car speed up and slam the brakes on behind me after I merged. He blew his horn and rode my bumper for the 50 ft I had before my turn into the cart path.

Eventually these close calls get someone seriously hurt or worse. That's when they realize the error in their thinking or the lack of respect for others.

[Rodneysblue]

Originally Posted by Toymeister

I have found the only way to discourage the cart drivers from playing chicken with me is to 'talk car' to them. The discourteous cart drivers are the SUVs of the multimodal paths but everyone of them fears a car.

You reach into the cart drivers inner fear by using automotive horns (for bikes). Loudbicycle makes these. Loud Bicycle | Car horn for bikes.

They have two models, the 'mini' which is two diaphragm horns, hi and low pitch. This sounds like a midsized Toyota. Or the 'classic' snail horn, sounds similar to a 1998 Buick LeSabre. Neither model is suitable for cyclists that count bike accessories by the gram, or penny pinchers.

I have both, they have saved both myself and Mrs. Toymeister from non-attentive car drivers and the aggressive cart drivers. Frankly, it snaps the cart drivers out of their aggressiveness like a dog on a shock collar. They can't comprehend that a bike can sound like a car.

For the bike horn haters: if you heard mine you were doing something incredibly stupid!

Could this horn be used on bicyclers and walkers that travel two or three abreast?