[Ben Franklin]

While driving south on Buena Vista, a single bicyclists was peddling in the left lane and cars had to get into the right lane to pass him. I have also observed bicycle groups doing the same thing. I'm not against bicycles using the road, but why can't all carts have as much equal access on the same roads as bicycles

I'd love to take my cart to Seven Mile Drive, even if it's just to cross the 466A at Pinella's Place. It wouldn't be hard to do and would most likely increase business and revenues for Wildwood and the county.

[ctmurray]

Bicycles pre-date cars, so were on the roads ahead of cars. So the rules were written such that bikes have the same access to roads as cars. Bike access to roads is important to general commerce in the US, in some places people bike to work and provide services, think of a crowded city for example. The bike in the left lane is legal. Probably they were preparing for a 3/4 turn around a roundabout which is legally done from the left lane. Golf carts came after cars, when safety was a bigger concern in society, so the rule makers decided that unprotected carts could only be on roads with low speed limits to limit the damage of an accident and the speed difference between cars and carts would be less. These rules (and the multimodal paths, tunnels and bridges here) allow for cart access to (nearly?) everywhere in the Villages.

[Ben Franklin]

Originally Posted by ctmurray

Bicycles pre-date cars, so were on the roads ahead of cars. So the rules were written such that bikes have the same access to roads as cars. Bike access to roads is important to general commerce in the US, in some places people bike to work and provide services, think of a crowded city for example. The bike in the left lane is legal. Probably they were preparing for a 3/4 turn around a roundabout which is legally done from the left lane. Golf carts came after cars, when safety was a bigger concern in society, so the rule makers decided that unprotected carts could only be on roads with low speed limits to limit the damage of an accident and the speed difference between cars and carts would be less. These rules (and the multimodal paths, tunnels and bridges here) allow for cart access to (nearly?) everywhere in the Villages.

"Bicycles pre-date cars, so were on the roads ahead of cars." And horses & buggy's predated bicycles, and people predated horses. So does that mean horse and people can walk in the roadway?

No, the lone bicyclist and the bike group were not going to make a left anytime soon. Gas carts pay a road tax, bicycles don't. However, I have already stated that I have no problem with bicycles sharing the road. I also believe carts should be able to access certain roads and places of business where no cart path is available.

[Stu from NYC]

Why cant bikes stay in the golf cart lanes as speeds are similar.

[brianherlihy]

i drive a golf cart/ and bike riders dont stop at stop sines and go on red lites so now i dont stop at stop sines and i go fast and i dont care about bike riders

[Vikingjunior]

Actual dedicated bike lanes like how big cities do would be helpful.

I personally think people who ride bikes on roads like Buena Vista have a death wish.

[Bilyclub]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Why cant bikes stay in the golf cart lanes as speeds are similar.

Says the guy who doesn't own a cart.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Bilyclub

Says the guy who doesn't own a cart.

Differences in speed on a highway or well trafficked road way can be deadly. Since bikes and carts go about the same speed would that not make sense to share road?

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Why cant bikes stay in the golf cart lanes as speeds are similar.

There are no golf cart lanes on BV.

[dtennent]

Originally Posted by brianherlihy

i drive a golf cart/ and bike riders dont stop at stop sines and go on red lites so now i dont stop at stop sines and i go fast and i dont care about bike riders

When a similar thread arose about a year ago, I decided to observe golf carts coming to intersections. I stopped counting after 100 carts. Results - 86 carts did not make a complete stop at any stop sign. Of the other 14, there were golf carts coming down the intersecting path for 10. Only 4 people came to a complete stop without a golf cart near by.

I have to admit that I roll through intersections if I don't see any traffic - that includes both my golf cart and my bicycle. However, given what I see from cars and golf carts around here, I never assume someone is going to stop at a stop sign. I also don't go out onto Morse and Buena Vista south of 466.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

There are no golf cart lanes on BV.

But when there are what I think are called multi modal lanes why not have bicycles on that?

[VApeople]

Originally Posted by dtennent

Results - 86 carts did not make a complete stop at any stop sign.

When I am driving into or out of our neighborhood of Osceola Hills, the cart riders are supposed to stop to let me drive through.

From my observation, 100% of them stop. If one didn't, I would have hit them.

[Toymeister]

Originally Posted by Ben Franklin

I'm not against bicycles using the road, but why can't all carts have as much equal access on the same roads as bicycles

Because it is legal for bicycles to be on the road an illegal for carts to be on the road.

There is nothing more to this discussion.

[tophcfa]

Bicycles versus Carts? I will put my money on the carts!

[Ben Franklin]

Originally Posted by Toymeister

Because it is legal for bicycles to be on the road an illegal for carts to be on the road.

There is nothing more to this discussion.

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