[CFrance]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

That's an excellent point. I never tip for counter service. The people working behind the counter at McDonalds are being paid at least minimum wage. They are not servers.

And I would imagine that the four drinks for $4.70 were sodas and water. I don't know if tipping is appropriate for someone serving soda.

They're still readying the drink and serving it, though...

It's not exactly a cut-and-dried situation, is it. I like the European version, although nothing's to be done about poor service. But it's a career for them, so they are more attentive to their job performance, in our experience.

How did it work in the Philippines?

[looneycat]

can you get 4 drinks at cane gardens for $4.70?? so he's a cheapskate.

[redwitch]

Darden and many others just figure tips at a flat 18%, whether the actual tip is 5% or 25%. At the end of the evening, the server has to tip out the bartender, hostess, busboy, bar back and sometimes even the expediter. If you're unskilled, you really going to complain if wages come to less than minimum wage on occasion? How about if your child goes to the charter school? You really going to complain? It isn't fair, it isn't right but it is life here. Sometimes the law is irrelevant.

[beachx4me]

I would have given him the change and told him he probably needed it more. If you are going out and are served you should tip appropriately. If not, keep your cheap self at home!!!

[don leitstein]

maybe that's all he had on him

[beachx4me]

Originally Posted by tuccillo

I believe the minimum in FL for tipped servers is $8.05/hour. The employer must make up the difference if the hourly wage and tips don't come out to that amount. I believe that is the way the law works.

I believe the minimum wage is different for tipped workers, my daughter lives and works in FL and I know she isn't getting that straight per hour. It has something to do with the amount of tips

[tuccillo]

Yes, that is what I stated. If their wage plus tips isn't $8.05 per hour the employer must make up the difference so they realize at least $8.05/hour. At least that is how I understand it works.

Originally Posted by beachx4me

I believe the minimum wage is different for tipped workers, my daughter lives and works in FL and I know she isn't getting that straight per hour. It has something to do with the amount of tips

[redwitch]

That may be the law but the reality is vastly different.

[tuccillo]

Are you saying that you know tipped servers who are making less than the law specifies in FL (wages plus tips must be at least $8.05/hour)? Are you saying that you are aware of businesses who are in violation of the law? If so, please state the names of the businesses.

Originally Posted by redwitch

That may be the law but the reality is vastly different.

[redwitch]

Read what I said previously. The Darden chains for a start. Applebee's. Can only name those because I've seen it occur at those two places. I'd suggest you ask servers here if a restaurant has ever added to their hourly rate. Restaurants will use the excuse that they don't know actual tips since many tips are given in cash or partially in cash and partially on a card. They actually ignore the amount given for a tip (the servers do get the actual tip amount, whether five percent or twenty percent), calculate the tip at eighteen percent of the food amount and deduct a percentage of that amount for tip backs to other staff. My daughter once had to pay some of the tip backs out of her own pocket, so she actually made less than $3.35/hr that day, regardless of what was reported to the IRS. And let's not forget the off the clock work bartenders and servers are frequently required to do. Too much competition for these unskilled jobs for folks to complain.

[kstew43]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Maybe he left more on the table.

OP states the guy walked up to the counter......asked bartender for 4 drinks....was handed the drinks and carried them away....No table service was ever implied.

So why would you highly tip for a bartender to hand you 4 drinks.......

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by kstew43

OP states the guy walked up to the counter......asked bartender for 4 drinks....was handed the drinks and carried them away....No table service was ever implied.

So why would you highly tip for a bartender to hand you 4 drinks.......

Because he made them.

[kstew43]

Originally Posted by CFrance

Because he made them.

do you tip the cashier/server in mc donalds......kinda seems the same...???

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by kstew43

do you tip the cashier/server in mc donalds......kinda seems the same...???

I tip whoever has a tip jar out. But I don't eat at McDonalds or the other fast food places.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by beachx4me

I would have given him the change and told him he probably needed it more. If you are going out and are served you should tip appropriately. If not, keep your cheap self at home!!!

Then you should be fired for insulting the customer.