[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Have the rules changed????

There are two threads on this topic full of political posts.

Closing off threads only invites one-line posts and little information being spread. Let the people speak to benefit a free society.

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Many religions have a "thing" about abortions. But, I remember reading something about the Separation of Church and State in grade school. So, I guess it is not really an issue today?

We are supposed to be a secular society. If you look for videos of religious leaders, particularly of the Evangelicals you can find them talking about making the government a theocracy. The steps they are taking right now, attacking anyone that believes different, attacking LGBTQ, attacking atheists, and on and on. They even installed a religious zealot on the Supreme Court. So, much for separation of church and state.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Closing off threads only invites one-line posts and little information being spread. Let the people speak to benefit a free society.

Information? No, opinions!

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Since you choose to be snarky....

I've included my original post and your highlighting.

1. I didn't claim half the population was LGBTQIA+, as you can see above. I wrote there were many LGBTQIA+ and BIPOC people and wondered if it was half the population

2. If 60% of the population is white, non-hispanic then 40% (100% - 60%) are BIPOC. That is nearly half the population right there.

3. if 3.5% are LGB and 0.3% are T then at least 3.8% are LGBTQIA+. Next, 3.8% of 60% is 2.28% (we'll use 2% to make the math easier). 60% white, non-hispanic less 2% LGBTQ, white, non-hispanic leaves 58% white, non-hispanic, non-LGBTQIA+.

4. If 58% are white, non-hispanic, non-LGBTQUI+ then 100%-58% = 42%, or very nearly half, who are either LGBTQIA+ or BIPOC - which, I think, is what I wrote above.

(snarky comment that didn't move the discussion forward deleted)

You "like the law that caters to the 96.2% of us that don't want this crap taught to our 5 year olds?" I take offense when you direct your misplaced snark at me but even still I cannot believe you are accusing the entire white, LGBTQIA+ population of wanting "this crap" to be taught to 5 year olds! You really don't believe that, do you?

(and as I mentioned earlier, the law says more than just that but I'm concerned about discussing those details under the rules of this forum)

Please don't be offended, but I think you are confusing yourself with your own math. You question whether half the population is LGBTQ then provide a statistic that shows it is only 3.8%. You are fine with points 2-3, but point 4 is vague---you state 40% are either BIPOC or LGBQT, but that is actually 39% BIPOC and ONLY 1% LGBQT. I also never mentioned race as relevant to anything I posted. Do I think every LGBTQ favors teaching sexuality to 5-8 year olds---probably not, but it is the group that protested the law and the group that Disney chose to support over the wishes of the people of Florida by way of their elected representatives.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye

Well it’s our screwy society, everything that’s going on is like a nightmare. Can’t understand why things can’t be like it used to be. We’re a messed up country!

I could go into more detail.........but, basically we just gradually lost our way. Greed and power ruined our great middle class after WW2.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by donassaid

No, they didn't get penalized for "stating their opinion". They lied about the Parental Notification bill, calling it the "Don't Say Gay" bill when it bans the teaching of ALL sexuality to children in K thru 3rd grade. Disney caved to the radical LGBTQ crowd in condemning the bill. Disney needs to get back to their origin mission of providing wholesome entertainment for families in their Parks and in their movies and quit trying to indoctrinate impressionable children with their WOKE and pro homosexual agenda.

When I see the word "WOKE" then next I usually smell a conspiracy theory!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Bilyclub

It wasn't an issue until that very small percentage of the US population started pressuring Disney to take a stand on the matter.

Disney is on the side of "good" people and they are about 60 or 70% of the US!

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Disney is on the side of "good" people and they are about 60 or 70% of the US!

You think "good" people want sexuality and its variations taught in schools to 5-8 year olds??? Think again.

[jdulej]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

You think "good" people want sexuality and its variations taught in schools to 5-8 year olds??? Think again.

I really don't know how or why people got off track so far that they start to believe the nonsense about anyone wanting to teach children about "sexuality and its variations" beyond acknowledging that some children have two mothers, some have two fathers and that's okay. No one is suggesting teaching children how anyone has sex which is what many seem to think is going on.
This would all be silly if it wasn't so damaging to some. The CRT BS didn't move the needle far enough, so now this made up BS is being floated. What is next week going to bring us, I wonder?

[dougjb]

So...maybe Disney will now stop offering discounts to Florida residents who go to their parks. You know...in kind of retribution for the fact that more Florida citizens voted for the current governor than his opponent.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Disney, as a corporation with a legacy of good reputation, has every right to speak out against the "don't say gay law" which may influence many other states to pass a similar law. It is a law about a problem that does NOT EXIST. It's just an exploitation of a conspiracy theory designed to divide America and cause chaos in society and specifically in education - which is fragile now after the Pandemic and many teachers are quitting rather than being sued for their homes and savings.
........It appears that teachers are now the MINORITY OF CHOICE to be dehumanized. First, it was the Muslims, then the long convoy of illegal aliens coming to rape all the US women. Then the small % of Police outlaws decided it was time to start a race war. Now today, the HATERS are concentrating their fire and ire on the defenseless classroom teacher - making laws to prevent problems that don't exist. The next conspiracy theory of the future will be that the teachers are raping their students. Sound unbelievable......remember when the man took a gun to a pizza place that he believed was a center for selling and (eating) children. Where did he get that idea? From some dark HOLE of conspiracy. And ask who originally produces those INSANE ideas
.......Russian history shows that Putin came to power by accusing a Russian official of child abuse. The man was placed in prison with a minimal trial. Putin has used that tactic of claiming child abuse to put away at least 3 of his enemies during his 22-year Dictatorship. Strange how these pediatric abuse scandals in Russia might be migrating to the US?

Your entire rant is based on a false premise. There is no "Don't say gay law"...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

The reason that some Corporations comment on issues is that some have the GUTS to recognize a problem!

Let's see of they have the guts to face their shareholders who have lost $20 BILLION in stock value since the zoom video became public...

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Please don't be offended, but I think you are confusing yourself with your own math. You question whether half the population is LGBTQ then provide a statistic that shows it is only 3.8%. You are fine with points 2-3, but point 4 is vague---you state 40% are either BIPOC or LGBQT, but that is actually 39% BIPOC and ONLY 1% LGBQT. I also never mentioned race as relevant to anything I posted. Do I think every LGBTQ favors teaching sexuality to 5-8 year olds---probably not, but it is the group that protested the law and the group that Disney chose to support over the wishes of the people of Florida by way of their elected representatives.

I was replying to the post about the videos of Disney employees supposedly pushing some agenda to indoctrinate children. My point was the Disney employees did not plan to "indoctrinate" anyone, that they were talking both about both LGBTQIA+ and BIPOC representation, and that nearly half the population outside the bubble of the Villages was either LGBTQIA+ or BIPOC. The percentage of that group seems to be 42% to 44% though the true numbers are fuzzy at best.

Any thoughts on whether the wishes of the people of Florida are represented by the State Govt. would certainly violate the rules of this site.

[Madelaine Amee]

Talk, talk, talk and more talk. All you need to know is that someone poked a very large bear with an inexhaustible amount of money for legal representation and this will go on long after the present Gov. has moved on, but the damage may have been done. It could change Florida for ever.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Goldwingnut

Getting back to the OP's post, I received the following information from the District Staff this morning:

Governor DeSantis announced in a news conference that in addition to a new congressional map they're voting on this week in a special session, lawmakers "will be considering termination of all independent special districts that were enacted in Florida prior to 1968, and that includes the Reedy Creek Improvement District."

If passed, this dissolution would only affect Chapter 189 special districts enacted in Florida prior to 1968.

First established in the early 1990s, The Villages Community Development Districts were, and will continue to be, formed under Chapter 190 Florida Statutes, and therefore this has no impact on our community.

In fact, there are only five special districts that could potentially be dissolved. They are:

Hamilton County Development Authority
East Point Water and Sewer District (Franklin County)
Bradford County Development Authority
Reedy Creek Improvement District aka Disney (Orange and Osceola Counties)
Sunshine Drainage District (Broward County)
Please visit Florida Governor Ron DeSantis for additional information.

Bottom line is that it does not affect The Villages or the hundreds of other CDDs in the state of Florida.

What it DOES do, however, is it sets a precedence. He can say "anything before 1968" today. And if the Villages does something to annoy him next month, he can make a new one to say "anything before 1993." His decision is against the Florida Constitution. That is a legal document, and he is violating his own state's constitution to create a pathway to punishing companies that express an opposing opinion or do things that offend some, while being celebrated by others.