[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Yes, because sometimes "speaking out" has consequences. Freedom of speech means the government can't stop you from saying something, it DOES NOT mean you are immune from the consequences.

We'll have to wait and see how this particular situation works out.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

We'll have to wait and see how this particular situation works out.

True, a lot of unknowns. But as usual, it works both ways---remember the outrage against Hobby Lobby?

[bgamble3]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

You get taxes other ways which comes out same or more. There no free lunch.

It is more than free speech. You might want to get fully informed, then your opinion may change. Check out the real reason on You Tube. Listen to what their executives are in favor of doing to young children. If you support that type of freedom, then you are in bed with them IMO.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by bgamble3

It is more than free speech. You might want to get fully informed, then your opinion may change. Check out the real reason on You Tube. Listen to what their executives are in favor of doing to young children. If you support that type of freedom, then you are in bed with them IMO.

Ah yes, you tube , great source for facts.

[rustyp]

If another Orlando based employer whose property is not a special district (hypothetically lets use Lockheed Martin) takes the same stance as Disney what would their sentencing be ?

What about a small LLC daycare center ?

Is Hobby Lobby or Chick Fillet next ?

Custom tuned sentencing seems like a slippery slope to me.

I AM NOT SAYING I AM AGAINST THE BILL. Nor am I saying I am for it. I am against what appears to be a revenge move on Disney by government. If Disney breaks the law they deserve sentencing consistent and equal to whoever else breaks that law. Disney may deserve to lose special district status for other reasons but that should be a stand alone separate issue and deserves its day in court.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by rustyp

If another Orlando based employer whose property is not a special district (hypothetically lets use Lockheed Martin) takes the same stance as Disney what would their sentencing be ?

What about a small LLC daycare center ?

Is Hobby Lobby or Chick Fillet next ?

Custom tuned sentencing seems like a slippery slope to me.

I AM NOT SAYING I AM AGAINST THE BILL. Nor am I saying I am for it. I am against what appears to be a revenge move on Disney by government. If Disney breaks the law they deserve sentencing consistent and equal to whoever else breaks that law. Disney may deserve to lose special district status for other reasons but that should be a stand alone separate issue and deserves its day in court.

They would come up with something. Debate it for less than an hour and then vote.
Of course that would depend; if the company spoke out against or for the state government’s action.
A slippery slope indeed.

[Nick B]

Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye

Well it’s our screwy society, everything that’s going on is like a nightmare. Can’t understand why things can’t be like it used to be. We’re a messed up country!

No doubt Women and black people have rights now. Marginalized people asking for rights it's terrible. Why can't things be like they used to be?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Nick B

No doubt Women and black people have rights now. Marginalized people asking for rights it's terrible. Why can't things be like they used to be?

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by Nick B

No doubt Women and black people have rights now. Marginalized people asking for rights it's terrible. Why can't things be like they used to be?

Are you saying that "women and black people" are perverted? How does teaching children a sexual perversion equate to minority equal rights, other than perversion IS a minority practice? The idea is NOT to teach children about gender confusion until they are old enough to understand a bit more about differences in biologic matters, such as male and female gender and how it is dictated by DNA, not by choice. When a child still thinks that a stork brought their baby brother to mommy, confusing them with gender choice issues is probably a bit early in their lives to understand. It has nothing to do with the fictitious idea that someone wishes for "don't say gay."

If Disney wishes to step outside the norm and subject children to the abnormal, then they should expect push back by the majority. Is Disney supposed to be entertainment or a teaching institution? Are adults upset over a personally perceived issue or do they REALLY care about the children? Are they really defending Disney's being told they will no longer receive preferential treatment by Florida, or are they really defending Disney's encroachment into lifestyle choices?

Personally, I find Universal a better choice than Disney anyway..

[rustyp]

Originally Posted by MDLNB

Are you saying that "women and black people" are perverted? How does teaching children a sexual perversion equate to minority equal rights, other than perversion IS a minority practice? The idea is NOT to teach children about gender confusion until they are old enough to understand a bit more about differences in biologic matters, such as male and female gender and how it is dictated by DNA, not by choice. When a child still thinks that a stork brought their baby brother to mommy, confusing them with gender choice issues is probably a bit early in their lives to understand. It has nothing to do with the fictitious idea that someone wishes for "don't say gay."

If Disney wishes to step outside the norm and subject children to the abnormal, then they should expect push back by the majority. Is Disney supposed to be entertainment or a teaching institution? Are adults upset over a personally perceived issue or do they REALLY care about the children? Are they really defending Disney's being told they will no longer receive preferential treatment by Florida, or are they really defending Disney's encroachment into lifestyle choices?

Personally, I find Universal a better choice than Disney anyway..

Personal preference but you are in the minority but have equal rights to an opinion:

Average yearly attendance:
Disney World - 58 million
Universal < 4 million

Thus Disney is bringing to Fl 14.5 x more tourism dollars than Universal at a minimum. And let's face it most of UNiversal's attendance is spill over from Disney. If you like no state tax be careful not to bite the hand that feeds you. IMHO diplomacy would benefit us better than revenge.

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by rustyp

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Personal preference but you are in the minority but have equal rights to an opinion:

Average yearly attendance:
Disney World - 58 million
Universal < 4 million

Thus Disney is bringing to Fl 14.5 x more tourism dollars than Universal at a minimum. And let's face it most of UNiversal's attendance is spill over from Disney. If you like no state tax be careful not to bite the hand that feeds you. IMHO diplomacy would benefit us better than revenge.

Disney's choice. Is there some reason that I would need to fear the idea of State income tax just because Disney would lose preferential treatment? I doubt they would close their doors....gates.

By the way, one of the reasons that (my opinion) I like Universal better is the smaller crowd and smaller lines, and wait times. Majority vs minority attendance? I don't have Disney stock so other than hating crowds, I see no reason that I should be concerned with the idea of someone else's preference and resulting attendance numbers.

[MX rider]

Originally Posted by MDLNB

Disney's choice. Is there some reason that I would need to fear the idea of State income tax just because Disney would lose preferential treatment? I doubt they would close their doors....gates.

By the way, one of the reasons that (my opinion) I like Universal better is the smaller crowd and smaller lines, and wait times. Majority vs minority attendance? I don't have Disney stock so other than hating crowds, I see no reason that I should be concerned with the idea of someone else's preference and resulting attendance numbers.

From what I read they're going to come up with something to replace the special district law with more "transparency". Whatever that means. So it sounds like they realize they can't just do away with it all together.

[bgamble3]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

They are being targeted because they stated their opinion. Not allowed in Florida.

Florida does not have state income tax, a big part of the reason is Disney. They bring in 50 million tourists per year. They pay over a billion in income tax per year. They bring in over $75 billion in tourist revenue per year. They employ over 40,000 central Florida residents.

But, they committed a sin, by stating that they support thousands of employees and millions of guests, and worst of all they did it publicly.

So much for fee speech.

I hope they don’t move out of the state, I kind of like not paying state income tax.

Disney supports exploiting children thru their cartoons and parks. Do your research.

[bgamble3]

Originally Posted by rustyp

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Personal preference but you are in the minority but have equal rights to an opinion:

Average yearly attendance:
Disney World - 58 million
Universal < 4 million

Thus Disney is bringing to Fl 14.5 x more tourism dollars than Universal at a minimum. And let's face it most of UNiversal's attendance is spill over from Disney. If you like no state tax be careful not to bite the hand that feeds you. IMHO diplomacy would benefit us better than revenge.

Disney leadership are perverts. Don't take your children or grandchildren to their parks or watch their cartoons anymore.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

IMHO, there should never be anything in a math book that needs to be censored. The fact that nearly 1/2 of those books were rejected tells me that the author added unnecessary woke crap to a cut and dry factual subject. Thank you Florida for protecting young children from this cr@p

This is surprising to me. So sad that you jump to the conclusion that the being rejected means there was "woke crap" added. The "dry factual subject" benefits from real-world examples to make it meaningful to students. Unfortunately today there isn't much in the real world that doesn't look like "woke crap" to those on a crusade to save the children.