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Old 11-05-2021, 07:08 PM
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What can be done about the very low 2 CMS rating for TVH hospital (UF)? I'd like to move to TV but can't figure out what is being done to raise it.

The CMS (Medicare) rating is based on health outcomes + is used across the US. It's on Medicare dot gov.

*Even if you had a good experience, the facts - the data for TVH are POOR. The facts are that many more people have very poor health outcomes at TV Hospital compared to hospitals across the USA.

Are you OK with low quality care/bad health outcomes per CMS? The infection rate is awful as are many other scientific, CMS measures of care/outcomes at TVH.

There are many smart people in TV. What if you or loved one need a CMS rated 3, 4, or 5 star hospital. Today - Now? Why shouldn't you have that basic option in TV - locally? The good life + fun of TV pales pretty quick if you or loved one suffers or dies due to lack of an average or better rated hospital in town.

CMS - Medicare provides a real picture of the quality of care TV UF hospital provides. It's not a good picture. There is no good excuse - how many TVers have suffered or died? Who's next?

Will the rating improve? I hope so! TV is otherwise a very cool place to be!
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A higher percentage of older people typically means a higher percentage of sicker people, which typically leads to a higher percentage of "less than desirable outcomes"...
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I agree with the above comment, there may be a bias in the CMS 'grading' system due to the very large older population. I recall a long discussion before on this exact same topic, not sure how to answer your question, but perhaps a call directly to the hospital?
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My experience there was not good and I saw and read many other bad experiences. I totally agree something needs to happen to improve the quality of care there, but I don't know what we can do...
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A higher percentage of older people typically means a higher percentage of sicker people, which typically leads to a higher percentage of "less than desirable outcomes"...
This is exactly my thoughts too. A bedroom community has mostly young families vs seniors in The Villages. Older folks yield worse outcomes than young folks and health issues.
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If your sole criteria for choosing a hospital is the CMS rating then Waterman, rated 4 stars, is not that much further than The Villages Hospital or Leesburg Hospital (also 2 star CMS rating). The Villages Hospital rating appears to be dinged by the readmission rate. Given that the average age in The Villages is getting close to 70, that may be expected. You may wish to move to a major metropolitan area as they tend to have more hospitals so you would enjoy a greater choice.

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What can be done about the very low 2 CMS rating for TVH hospital (UF)? I'd like to move to TV but can't figure out what is being done to raise it.

The CMS (Medicare) rating is based on health outcomes + is used across the US. It's on Medicare dot gov.

*Even if you had a good experience, the facts - the data for TVH are POOR. The facts are that many more people have very poor health outcomes at TV Hospital compared to hospitals across the USA.

Are you OK with low quality care/bad health outcomes per CMS? The infection rate is awful as are many other scientific, CMS measures of care/outcomes at TVH.

There are many smart people in TV. What if you or loved one need a CMS rated 3, 4, or 5 star hospital. Today - Now? Why shouldn't you have that basic option in TV - locally? The good life + fun of TV pales pretty quick if you or loved one suffers or dies due to lack of an average or better rated hospital in town.

CMS - Medicare provides a real picture of the quality of care TV UF hospital provides. It's not a good picture. There is no good excuse - how many TVers have suffered or died? Who's next?

Will the rating improve? I hope so! TV is otherwise a very cool place to be!

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For at least the last 50 years Central Florida has not been a go-to destination for high level medical care.
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Was there on-and-off a few weeks ago and found their treatment rather chaotic. The left arm did not know what the right leg was doing, so to speak.
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What's ironic is UF Shands in Gainesville is a excellent hospital.
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I am not sure how the rating system works, but regardless of age or health I believe the desired outcome for anyone having to go to a hospital is to be in a sanitary and welcoming environment, to be seen by competent professionals in a timely manner, and to be properly diagnosed and treated. Unfortunately, my experience at the Villages Hospital was the exact opposite. I spent approximately 11 1/2 hours in an absolutely filthy waiting room, most of the time with an IV port in my arm that wasn’t hooked up to the fluids which I desperately needed. The only restroom available was probably the most disgusting public restroom I ever had to use. The environment was the opposite of welcoming. I was so sick I was in serious risk of death, and no, it wasn’t Covid. All I did was wait and wait and wait, the whole time in total agony. At one point I fell out of the chair I was trying to stay upright in and passed out on the floor. I am not sure how long I was on the floor before I came too, but I am guessing it was at least 45 minutes. No one ever even came over to ask how I was or if I needed help? When an incompetent doctor finally misdiagnosed me, I was subsequently mistreated and sent home to die. I was in no shape to drive, let alone take care of myself, and desperately needed to be admitted to intensive care. Despite that, they sent me on my way to drive home in my golf cart at midnight. I still can’t believe I somehow made it home without killing myself or someone else.

Fortunately, my wife arrived at our Villages home two days later and brought me to a real hospital, North Florida Regional Medical Center in Gainesville. We went to a stand alone ER affiliated with the hospital. The triage nurse took one look at me and within 5 minutes I was in a bed with a doctor at my side running a bunch of tests. After the doctor evaluated me, she made a phone call and I was in an Ambulance and on my way to an already assigned room in their critical care unit where I spent the next 8 days. What a great hospital, they saved my life. That’s how things are supposed to work. That was last June and now I am back to even better than I was before I got sick. I have always taken great care of myself, but a close brush with the grim reaper now has me doubling down on my exercise, diet, etc…

There is no grade low enough for me to give to the Villages Hospital!
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Old 11-05-2021, 10:53 PM
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I am not sure how the rating system works, but regardless of age or health I believe the desired outcome for anyone having to go to a hospital is to be in a sanitary and welcoming environment, to be seen by competent professionals in a timely manner, and to be properly diagnosed and treated. Unfortunately, my experience at the Villages Hospital was the exact opposite. I spent approximately 11 1/2 hours in an absolutely filthy waiting room, most of the time with an IV port in my arm that wasn’t hooked up to the fluids which I desperately needed. The only restroom available was probably the most disgusting public restroom I ever had to use. The environment was the opposite of welcoming. I was so sick I was in serious risk of death, and no, it wasn’t Covid. All I did was wait and wait and wait, the whole time in total agony. At one point I fell out of the chair I was trying to stay upright in and passed out on the floor. I am not sure how long I was on the floor before I came too, but I am guessing it was at least 45 minutes. No one ever even came over to ask how I was or if I needed help? When an incompetent doctor finally misdiagnosed me, I was subsequently mistreated and sent home to die. I was in no shape to drive, let alone take care of myself, and desperately needed to be admitted to intensive care. Despite that, they sent me on my way to drive home in my golf cart at midnight. I still can’t believe I somehow made it home without killing myself or someone else.

Fortunately, my wife arrived at our Villages home two days later and brought me to a real hospital, North Florida Regional Medical Center in Gainesville. We went to a stand alone ER affiliated with the hospital. The triage nurse took one look at me and within 5 minutes I was in a bed with a doctor at my side running a bunch of tests. After the doctor evaluated me, she made a phone call and I was in an Ambulance and on my way to an already assigned room in their critical care unit where I spent the next 8 days. What a great hospital, they saved my life. That’s how things are supposed to work. That was last June and now I am back to even better than I was before I got sick. I have always taken great care of myself, but a close brush with the grim reaper now has me doubling down on my exercise, diet, etc…

There is no grade low enough for me to give to the Villages Hospital!
Sad to hear this & sorry you went through it, but thank you for the great information. We have avoided TV hospital by driving to the free standing ER on 441 almost across from Market of Marion. A longer drive, but worth it.
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My experience there was not good and I saw and read many other bad experiences. I totally agree something needs to happen to improve the quality of care there, but I don't know what we can do...
it's terribly short staffed. it's a beautiful facility, lots of the latest equipment but hardly anyone to work there
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Waterman hospital in Tavares and the hospital in Leesburg are both your answer and not far from TV at all. Why do you assume everything you need must be a golf cart ride away?
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Just got out after 6 nights. Nursing is great. The Dr.s are the total opposite. If what was seen from ER tests on Rt 44, would have gone home in 2 days. Still not fixed, told to schedule outpatient for next week, soonest is 6 weeks. Hope I can make it.
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Sounds like you best not move to TV.
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