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Originally Posted by Vikingjunior

What's ironic is UF Shands in Gainesville is a excellent hospital.

The problem with the hospitals in The Villages is over crowding and will get worse until more hospitals are built. So of corse the hospital in Gainsville is better the average age isn’t 70 and the hospital is not over crowded.

[KimmieK]

Ownership vs. Management! This will take some time to bump up CMS ratings and more data gathering to see any changes in those numbers. No magic switch!

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by ChrisTee

What can be done about the very low 2 CMS rating for TVH hospital (UF)? I'd like to move to TV but can't figure out what is being done to raise it.

The CMS (Medicare) rating is based on health outcomes + is used across the US. It's on Medicare dot gov.

*Even if you had a good experience, the facts - the data for TVH are POOR. The facts are that many more people have very poor health outcomes at TV Hospital compared to hospitals across the USA.

Are you OK with low quality care/bad health outcomes per CMS? The infection rate is awful as are many other scientific, CMS measures of care/outcomes at TVH.

There are many smart people in TV. What if you or loved one need a CMS rated 3, 4, or 5 star hospital. Today - Now? Why shouldn't you have that basic option in TV - locally? The good life + fun of TV pales pretty quick if you or loved one suffers or dies due to lack of an average or better rated hospital in town.

CMS - Medicare provides a real picture of the quality of care TV UF hospital provides. It's not a good picture. There is no good excuse - how many TVers have suffered or died? Who's next?

Will the rating improve? I hope so! TV is otherwise a very cool place to be!

Tell you the truth I’m afraid of going into any hospital. If you go in and come out I’d say rating pretty good. When you get old and have all sorts of medical conditions known and unknown, plus things that can happen or catch in hospital the odds aren’t in older person favor. Majority are not in good health anyway and even if you are nobody knows what hidden problems you may have that don’t have abnormal symptoms or pain. I am thankful there’s hospital close. Ocala and Leesburg not that close depending on which side of villages you live in and with traffic not that quick.

[biker1]

I don't know why you consider it ironic. By the way, it has a 3 star CMS rating and, yes, I have been there.

Originally Posted by Vikingjunior

What's ironic is UF Shands in Gainesville is a excellent hospital.

[msilagy]

Just because the name Shands in now on the Villages Hospital there is no interaction from Shands....maybe some day. Many people are misled by the name.

[Ptmckiou]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

A higher percentage of older people typically means a higher percentage of sicker people, which typically leads to a higher percentage of "less than desirable outcomes"...

Exactly. How can you have fantastic desirable outcomes, when 90% of the patients are sicker older people. We aren’t like a normal area with the average age bracket of 45 with younger immune systems, less chronic issues.

[asianthree]

If UF doesn’t take over fully until first of the year, the hospital is still in transition mode.

Working at facilities that were bought out, the changing of the guard, can take more than a year, sometimes more. Staff is evaluated, some maintained positions, some offered retirement, or no offer at all.

Staff may slowly change, along with care. Doctors, Residents may follow, along with staff from UF in Gainesville. One facility I worked at had a 5 year increment plan for conversion.

[blueash]

The excuse that the Villages Hospital has an older demographic is belied by the fact that the Leesburg Hospital, run by the same people has a typical demographic and the same low rating. Those who praise Shands should be aware it is a three star CMS hospital, which makes it average using their criteria. Their poorest measure is readmission rate. Being a university teaching hospital means the sickest patients tend to go there which does impact outcome data. This is not true of our hospital where the sickest patients are often triaged elsewhere.

You can look at the CMS ratings HERE

While patient surveys can be misleading.. The national average to the question "Would you recommend this hospital? is Yes 71% For The Villages it is 51% and Leesburg 62%

Shands in Gainesville is 82%. I would not suggest you only use CMS ratings in determining your hospitals of choice. It looks at a narrow set of outcome data. Patient satisfaction is skewed by how nice a room looks and how good the food tasted. In my opinion, and experience, patients are not particularly good at judging the quality of medical care.

I knew several doctors who were jerks but excellent clinicians, think Dr. House. When referring a patient to them I'd warn the family that experience might not be pleasant but I wanted the best medical outcome, and for their situation, I'd use Dr Jerk. If the pleasantness of the experience was important, I'd have an alternative suggestion.

[jbrown132]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

A higher percentage of older people typically means a higher percentage of sicker people, which typically leads to a higher percentage of "less than desirable outcomes"...

I do not think that answers his question and I don’t totally agree with you. Both my wife and I have had horrible experiences at that hospital. Six hour waits at the emergency room, doctors that are rude etc. one thing they could do is If the hospital could get linked in with a quality university medical school and become a teaching hospital it might improve greatly. Several years ago, I had to have a cardiac procedure and my cardiologist who is on staff at both The Villages hospital and at Leesburg hospital strongly recommend I go to Leesburg. He said they had much better equipment, and staff there than in The Villages. It’s ok for anything minor bot if you have to have something serious done go somewhere else. This is from a doctor on staff at that hospital.

[Rzepecki]

Originally Posted by paulat585

Sad to hear this & sorry you went through it, but thank you for the great information. We have avoided TV hospital by driving to the free standing ER on 441 almost across from Market of Marion. A longer drive, but worth it.

This is the Ocala Health ER. The location on 441 (in front of Del Webb) is 10 minutes from Ashland. They have another location on 466a, just W of Buena Vista, again 10 minutes from Ashland.

My husband and I have been to both locations and have always received wonderful care!

[Tmcbryan]

Both my wife and I have gone into the hospital. Our experience has been as good as any other hospital “up North”.
Our one experience with ER was not great. The ER on 44 was very good.

[Pres1939]

I share your concern. I am a new resident in TV, and my son recently had a terrible experience at this hospital. I urge you not to give up on TV, though. This is a wonderful community (I am 82), and the UF hospital in nearby Leesburg and Ocala, plus Gainesville are exceptional. As for the TV UF Hospital, I have reported my family’s experience to Florida hospital oversight agencies, local congressmen, and local venues, such as TOTV. Hopefully, the State or UF will take appropriate action.
I hope you will join our Villages family. I assure you, this is a great place to live.

Originally Posted by ChrisTee

What can be done about the very low 2 CMS rating for TVH hospital (UF)? I'd like to move to TV but can't figure out what is being done to raise it.

The CMS (Medicare) rating is based on health outcomes + is used across the US. It's on Medicare dot gov.

*Even if you had a good experience, the facts - the data for TVH are POOR. The facts are that many more people have very poor health outcomes at TV Hospital compared to hospitals across the USA.

Are you OK with low quality care/bad health outcomes per CMS? The infection rate is awful as are many other scientific, CMS measures of care/outcomes at TVH.

There are many smart people in TV. What if you or loved one need a CMS rated 3, 4, or 5 star hospital. Today - Now? Why shouldn't you have that basic option in TV - locally? The good life + fun of TV pales pretty quick if you or loved one suffers or dies due to lack of an average or better rated hospital in town.

CMS - Medicare provides a real picture of the quality of care TV UF hospital provides. It's not a good picture. There is no good excuse - how many TVers have suffered or died? Who's next?

Will the rating improve? I hope so! TV is otherwise a very cool place to be!

[kkingston57]

Agree with most of the posters about bad results due to the demographics(age) of patients. I was at the ER in July 2021 and ER waiting room was packed with 80+ year old patients and they could not get into the actual ER due to no beds available. Was told that this was Covid related. Adding insult to injury hospital charged ER fee and I never set foot in the actual ER. All of the patients awaited testing, examination etc in the waiting room.

Unfortunately, do feel that this problem is going to get worse with the rise in retirees moving to this area. Most of the devolpoments around here are 55+ communities. Very few upscale communities(that doctors would be attacted to) being built that are for under 55 years old people.

On the bright side, if you do have a serious medical condition and/or need a very specialized doctor Shands is an alternative.

[biker1]

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[giorgio1948]

So, who and where has the highest scores?

Originally Posted by ChrisTee

What can be done about the very low 2 CMS rating for TVH hospital (UF)? I'd like to move to TV but can't figure out what is being done to raise it.

The CMS (Medicare) rating is based on health outcomes + is used across the US. It's on Medicare dot gov.

*Even if you had a good experience, the facts - the data for TVH are POOR. The facts are that many more people have very poor health outcomes at TV Hospital compared to hospitals across the USA.

Are you OK with low quality care/bad health outcomes per CMS? The infection rate is awful as are many other scientific, CMS measures of care/outcomes at TVH.

There are many smart people in TV. What if you or loved one need a CMS rated 3, 4, or 5 star hospital. Today - Now? Why shouldn't you have that basic option in TV - locally? The good life + fun of TV pales pretty quick if you or loved one suffers or dies due to lack of an average or better rated hospital in town.

CMS - Medicare provides a real picture of the quality of care TV UF hospital provides. It's not a good picture. There is no good excuse - how many TVers have suffered or died? Who's next?

Will the rating improve? I hope so! TV is otherwise a very cool place to be!