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golfing eagles 01-20-2023 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Worldseries27 (Post 2177691)
closing 2 of the 3 theatres in the villages is not a good look for america's friendliest home town. Tv reputation and image is tarnished. Its up to the owners to create a successful business model that will succeed. What's next ? Closed golf courses, squares, pools ?

Exec courses, pools and rec centers are amenities, the squares consist of developer owned space that is rented to businesses.

The developers are not in the movie theater business. They rent the space to all the businesses in the town squares---yes, businesses, they are not amenities. No one runs a business at a loss for long. Or is it the attitude that since "the developers" are "rich" they should take the theater over and throw money down a black hole??? Would any of us????

Jayhawk 01-20-2023 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve (Post 2177681)
If they lowered the price to $6.00 everyday the theaters would be filled every day...just like they are on Mondays. When we moved here (18 years ago) residents could go to any movie any day for $3.50. There were always lines to get in.

How much was milk back then? Gas? Everything?

Jayhawk 01-20-2023 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by PugMom (Post 2177679)
that's an excellent idea, although there is a part of me that wishes it could be art cinema, showing independent or foreign films. good ones.

You'd have better luck investing in Buggy Whips.

Number 10 GI 01-20-2023 11:08 AM

I think a casino would be very successful. It would provide a lot more and better paying jobs than a movie theater, generate more traffic for the retail businesses in the area and generate tax revenue. I'm willing to bet it would attract far more patronage than a movie theater showing movies no one wants to see anyway.

jump4 01-20-2023 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael 61 (Post 2177164)
Since it doesn’t appear movies are coming back to the Brownwood Cinemas, what do you think should be done with the property? I’d like to see either 1) Performing Arts venue 2) Bowling Alley 3) Ice skating Rink - anything but apartments 😀

If bowling, I suggest Duck Pin bowling!

mtdjed 01-20-2023 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 2177760)
I think a casino would be very successful. It would provide a lot more and better paying jobs than a movie theater, generate more traffic for the retail businesses in the area and generate tax revenue. I'm willing to bet it would attract far more patronage than a movie theater showing movies no one wants to see anyway.

This is probably the best idea yet with one huge problem, which is lack of parking. As it is now, it is hard getting parking at the Genesis Health Club. Also, might need an Indian tribe in the local area to get government approval.

golfing eagles 01-20-2023 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 2177760)
I think a casino would be very successful. It would provide a lot more and better paying jobs than a movie theater, generate more traffic for the retail businesses in the area and generate tax revenue. I'm willing to bet it would attract far more patronage than a movie theater showing movies no one wants to see anyway.

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Originally Posted by mtdjed (Post 2177771)
This is probably the best idea yet with one huge problem, which is lack of parking. As it is now, it is hard getting parking at the Genesis Health Club. Also, might need an Indian tribe in the local area to get government approval.

Interesting. The one problem is parking? I would think the biggest problem is that casinos are illegal in Florida unless it is on Indian land, and I doubt even the family has the clout to get that changed.

That aside, what type of clientele do you think a casino in Brownwood would draw? Multimillionaire whales who would skip Vegas, Atlantic City, and Monte Carlo to come here? Or would you get an endless stream of people gambling their social security and welfare checks, just as you get at just about every "reservation" casino I've seen. At Turning Stone (central NY, ostensibly run by the Oneida Indian Tribe, but actually owned by a group of lawyers from NYC), they would bus people in from 100 miles away, and kindly cash their SS and welfare checks for them. They even had buses that could accommodate the many people in wheelchairs and oxygen tanks that would sit all day in front of a slot machine while smoking 3 packs of cigarettes.

NO THANK YOU!

Bogie Shooter 01-20-2023 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2177775)
Interesting. The one problem is parking? I would think the biggest problem is that casinos are illegal in Florida unless it is on Indian land, and I doubt even the family has the clout to get that changed.

That aside, what type of clientele do you think a casino in Brownwood would draw? Multimillionaire whales who would skip Vegas, Atlantic City, and Monte Carlo to come here? Or would you get an endless stream of people gambling their social security and welfare checks, just as you get at just about every "reservation" casino I've seen. At Turning Stone (central NY, ostensibly run by the Oneida Indian Tribe, but actually owned by a group of lawyers from NYC), they would bus people in from 100 miles away, and kindly cash their SS and welfare checks for them. They even had buses that could accommodate the many people in wheelchairs and oxygen tanks that would sit all day in front of a slot machine while smoking 3 packs of cigarettes.

NO THANK YOU!

Have to agree with you. Casino is a pie in the sky crazy idea……

Freeda 01-20-2023 12:25 PM

A KatieBelle's type dance hall.

Boomer 01-20-2023 12:36 PM

Mocktail? Anyone?
 
I just saw an interview with the woman who owns Hekate — a sober bar in NYC. She opened her sober bar across the street from the regular bar she owns. The sober bar stays really busy and I guess profitable.

The theater space is too big, but using part of it might be just the spot for a sober bar. I bet it would fly.

Google Hekate NYC and/or sober bar to find more info about sober bars. Is TV ready?

Boomer

. . .although, sometimes, I think (fondly, of course) that TV is the world’s biggest high school, so there would always be somebody who would smuggle in booze to spike the mocktails.

Mrs.Guy 01-20-2023 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Freeda (Post 2177778)
A KatieBelle's type dance hall.

;) "KatieBelle's type" by that do you mean - one that loses money? Yeah..... that might work. :undecided: It's absolutely amazing the Developer has gotten as far as they have without the input of all the people that know so much more then they / their staff do. :popcorn:

:a20::a20::a20:

Boomer 01-20-2023 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 2177783)
I just saw an interview with the woman who owns Hekate — a sober bar in NYC. She opened her sober bar across the street from the regular bar she owns. The sober bar stays really busy and I guess profitable.

The theater space is too big, but using part of it might be just the spot for a sober bar. I bet it would fly.

Google Hekate NYC and/or sober bar to find more info about sober bars. Is TV ready?

Boomer

. . .although, sometimes, I think (fondly, of course) that TV is the world’s biggest high school, so there would always be somebody who would smuggle in booze to spike the mocktails.



I know. I know it is excruciatingly tacky to quote myself. But I wanted to add to the Hekate thing. If you Google that particular sober bar, you will find an intriguing list of the mocktails and their ingredients.

Boomer

newgirl 01-20-2023 02:00 PM

Sad, especially since movie pass is back. The theaters were always busy, no idea why someone decided to get rid of 2 out of 3 of them.

golfing eagles 01-20-2023 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by newgirl (Post 2177816)
Sad, especially since movie pass is back. The theaters were always busy, no idea why someone decided to get rid of 2 out of 3 of them.

Because no one was going to the movies?

Number 10 GI 01-20-2023 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2177775)
Interesting. The one problem is parking? I would think the biggest problem is that casinos are illegal in Florida unless it is on Indian land, and I doubt even the family has the clout to get that changed.

That aside, what type of clientele do you think a casino in Brownwood would draw? Multimillionaire whales who would skip Vegas, Atlantic City, and Monte Carlo to come here? Or would you get an endless stream of people gambling their social security and welfare checks, just as you get at just about every "reservation" casino I've seen. At Turning Stone (central NY, ostensibly run by the Oneida Indian Tribe, but actually owned by a group of lawyers from NYC), they would bus people in from 100 miles away, and kindly cash their SS and welfare checks for them. They even had buses that could accommodate the many people in wheelchairs and oxygen tanks that would sit all day in front of a slot machine while smoking 3 packs of cigarettes.

NO THANK YOU!

I believe the casinos in Vegas, Reno and other gaming locations get the bulk of their revenue from average Joe Blow there for the weekend. What is the difference between these same people you mention spending their money with a local bookie or at a casino? This country tried banning alcohol sales and consumption and there was more alcohol consumed during prohibition than before or after. People will find a way to satisfy their need to participate in their preferred vice. At least at the casino the operations are monitored, controlled and revenue paid to the local authority.

As far as Indian land, all you would have to do is get an individual who claims to have Indian blood sue for the land because his great, great, great Indian grandfather had an outhouse on that land. Land that was forcefully taken from his grandfather. If a bunch of New York City lawyers can pull it off, so can a bunch of Florida lawyers.

Makes more sense than anything I've seen suggested so far, or at least a more profitable suggestion.


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