[ronciecka]

The Villages did not use treated wood and then did not periodically spray the structures with preservative. The structures helped them sell homes so they should be willing to pay at least half the cost. Also, phone companies and companies that build and then lease antennas should be asked if they would like to build an antenna disguised as a windmill or water tower.

[tophcfa]

It hard to believe that no one realized an outdoor structure built with non pressure treated lumber wouldn’t last more than a few years in the Florida heat and humidity? Whoever designed the original structure should be fired for total incompetence.

[Worldseries27]

Originally Posted by keefelane66

the developer is under such financial distress maybe we should all pitch in to help.

i agree. They can keep the tower but install an apartment within it a la the spanish springs economic model.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

It hard to believe that no one realized an outdoor structure built with non pressure treated lumber wouldn’t last more than a few years in the Florida heat and humidity? Whoever designed the original structure should be fired for total incompetence.

I have a piece of treated 2 x 4 in my garage can we donate it to the rebuilding campaign?

[Luggage]

Personally I think you should add a toll booth at the entrance and let all the easy pass SunPass people pay

[Rsenholzi]

Are you kidding me? They are the ones making the money . We are the retired ones living on a fixed income. They use a shoddy company to lay in the piping under the roads in the villas and we have to pay for it. They are making money from the businesses in the squares- not only from the rents but additional money from a percentage of what they sell and we have to pay for the upkeep. They keep trying to taking parking spaces from the squares for their rental apartments and who loses out - the people who visit the squares to keep the businesses running because during snowbird season there is no parking. Movie Theaters disappeared during COVID because people couldn’t go and movies weren’t being made so they closed 2 of them! Their plan - to make more apartments and lose more parking on the squares. Mark my words - their plan is to close the squares so they don’t have to pay for the entertainment. They already refused to renew the contract with the police so there will be no police presence in the squares- another thing we are losing. They don’t care about the people - all they care about is lining their pockets with the green stuff

[bowlingal]

always more than the original estimate and always longer than what is first stated

[kidnerkim]

Tear them down & put in more seating

[crash]

Originally Posted by kidnerkim

Tear them down & put in more seating

How about any seating.

[crash]

Originally Posted by Rsenholzi

Are you kidding me? They are the ones making the money . We are the retired ones living on a fixed income. They use a shoddy company to lay in the piping under the roads in the villas and we have to pay for it. They are making money from the businesses in the squares- not only from the rents but additional money from a percentage of what they sell and we have to pay for the upkeep. They keep trying to taking parking spaces from the squares for their rental apartments and who loses out - the people who visit the squares to keep the businesses running because during snowbird season there is no parking. Movie Theaters disappeared during COVID because people couldn’t go and movies weren’t being made so they closed 2 of them! Their plan - to make more apartments and lose more parking on the squares. Mark my words - their plan is to close the squares so they don’t have to pay for the entertainment. They already refused to renew the contract with the police so there will be no police presence in the squares- another thing we are losing. They don’t care about the people - all they care about is lining their pockets with the green stuff

They don’t pay for the entertainment the merchants in the square does.

[Goldwingnut]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

So who actually does own the squares? If the developer why are they not responsible for maintenance?

Both are owned by the Brownwood CDD (a unit of local government not a private entity - aka the developer) and are included in Exhibit A of the Project Wide Agreement as are most of the public/entertainment areas in both LSL and BW. So, under the terms of the Project Wide Agreement the maintenance will fall to the Project Wide Fund. They are no different than many other structures and facilities in the community owned by all the CDDs that fall under the agreement, the key difference in my mind is that these are purely ornamental and have no functional need or requirement.

Knowing well the current PWF budget and having seen the proposed budget that is still being worked for next fiscal year I'm still on the fence with this "emergency?" budget item. How did they get in this condition so fast? Why are we only just now seeing the problem? How does a real windmill last decades on a farm but just 10 years in the town square? What will be lost if both are just raised and not rebuilt? How many residents have ever noticed they even existed? What are the legal responsibilities for the Project Wide Agreement to keep/replace the feature? These and many more unanswered questions need to be answered.

[midiwiz]

Originally Posted by ronciecka

The Villages did not use treated wood and then did not periodically spray the structures with preservative. The structures helped them sell homes so they should be willing to pay at least half the cost. Also, phone companies and companies that build and then lease antennas should be asked if they would like to build an antenna disguised as a windmill or water tower.

that makes far too much sense..... rethink that LOL.

[midiwiz]

Originally Posted by Goldwingnut

....

Knowing well the current PWF budget and having seen the proposed budget that is still being worked for next fiscal year I'm still on the fence with this "emergency?" budget item. How did they get in this condition so fast? Why are we only just now seeing the problem? How does a real windmill last decades on a farm but just 10 years in the town square? What will be lost if both are just raised and not rebuilt? How many residents have ever noticed they even existed? What are the legal responsibilities for the Project Wide Agreement to keep/replace the feature? These and many more unanswered questions need to be answered.

How did they get in this condition so fast? Poor expectations, design, build, cheap materials.
Why are we only just now seeing the problem? Come on you've watched the federal government haven't you? same thing.
How does a real windmill last decades on a farm but just 10 years in the town square? Better everything, and not cheap.
What will be lost if both are just raised and not rebuilt? Absolutely nothing at all
How many residents have ever noticed they even existed? not until now, actually the entire outside decor while I understand goes with the theme, is actually somewhat ugly and over the top.

[Lindaws]

Monthly amen. fees will go up. Residents are also responsible for all these
bridges.

[Worldseries27]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

it hard to believe that no one realized an outdoor structure built with non pressure treated lumber wouldn’t last more than a few years in the florida heat and humidity? Whoever designed the original structure should be fired for total incompetence.

heard they used brown wood