[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Happydaz

Ridiculous! Do you want signed statements submitted? How about we get the Orlando TV stations involved. Maybe also the state and national newspapers. You want pictures?

There are three posters on this thread that have reported this situation. It is real. If you don't believe us that is your problem. The OP said call the Villages rec department and see if a Pinellas pool monitor asked a group of young men to leave. They probably won't disclose this info to you, but you could try. You want real proof? Get it yourself. I have never seen so many obnoxious, nervy people on one thread.

Anyone can rent to anyone for any length of time they want to here in The Villages. We have never rented to anyone, and I suppose if rules were passed there might be some criticism of the developer being the ONLY ones able to rent to prospective buyers and thus be greedy.

There have been rumors and speculation that the home was sold to a contractor in some kind of good deal. There is someone who speculates that the workers could be illegally here. (That is a subject all in itself) Posts say that workers are dripping oil on the pavement from their trucks, and swimming in the pool. (which would be o.k. if they had a valid visitor pass) There have been posts that say that there are a large number of people living in a home, some posts say they arrive for the night. Happydaz says that some home owners have trouble getting out of their own driveway. (parking in the street has been discussed and discussed and remains another unsolved problem) The workers have been described as "gangs of workers". It has been proposed that people who live in bigger homes don't care about the troubles of patio villa neighborhoods. Someone said that I attacked her on this forum about three years ago and what my only two posts to her were, was to tell her to call warranty before she had her granite repaired. She said she was a neighbor and she lives in the Marianna Villas.

I am guessing this mess is in the Marianna Villas? It sounds awful. I can picture it in my mind. Living next door to a home that has many many more people living it it than it can easily hold, their vehicles clogging the streets, the parties and noise bothering people and there are no rules to make this right.

Define the problem.
Gather facts on the problem.
Come to a trial conclusion.

Is there anything anyone can do about this? If so WHAT? Other than feel bad for the folks who live nearby.

Who exactly are you mad at, Happydaz? What do you propose to make this better?

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by villagetinker

I have no direct knowledge of some of the rental problems being described in the previous posts, however below is a direct quote from the VCDD website:

Residential Use Restrictions: Property must be devoted only to single-family residential use. Properties within the Subdivision are intended for residential use and no commercial, professional or similar activity requiring either maintaining an inventory, equipment or customer/client visits may be conducted in a Home or on a Homesite.

Please those of you that know of these situations, CALL community standards 352-751-3912 and explain the situation. If you CALL your complaint is anonymous.
Hope this helps.

Hallelujah. As always, a clear understanding and a good start in solving the problem.

[kstew43]

Originally Posted by Happydaz

Ridiculous! Do you want signed statements submitted? How about we get the Orlando TV stations involved. Maybe also the state and national newspapers. You want pictures?

There are three posters on this thread that have reported this situation. It is real. If you don't believe us that is your problem. The OP said call the Villages rec department and see if a Pinellas pool monitor asked a group of young men to leave. They probably won't disclose this info to you, but you could try. You want real proof? Get it yourself. I have never seen so many obnoxious, nervy people on one thread.

[kstew43]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Hallelujah. As always, a clear understanding and a good start in solving the problem.

I think you might of missed the facts......they did say that this issue WAS reported to the proper authorities.....with no indications of correcting the problems..

In my opinion, that is why they took there hardships to the forum.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by kstew43

I think you might of missed the facts......they did say that this issue WAS reported to the proper authorities.....with no indications of correcting the problems..

In my opinion, that is why they took there hardships to the forum.

That's the way I read it also.

[justjim]

Rentals are a big business in The Villages. I talked not long ago to a man and wife who said they owned 26 rented properties in The Villages. They are not the only ones that make a business of owing and renting out homes in TV. A number however, I believe are folks who have not retired yet that rent out their home until they retire. I personally know some in the new area of TV who do just that. There are few, if any, issues or problems with these rentals.

What has been pointed out in this Thread is a problem to owners in their neighborhood, and they are looking for answers to a particular set of problems in their neighborhood of Courtyard Villas. That is not to say that this is a widespread problem across all Villas in TV. It's sort of like the abandoned house issue in TV that occasionally occurs. Tough on neighborhoods and a difficult frustrating problem that can take months and sometime years to solve.

It's real when it's in your backyard but not so real when it's somebody's else's issue and problem. In TV, we don't have a mayor or city council to take our issue to---we have TOTV, the other no name paper, VHA, POA, the district CDD, The Daily Sun, Perhaps The Developer and maybe others that I left out thinking off the top of my head.

Well, by now you see the point. Who has any authority to solve this problem outlined in this Thread? That is the person or persons to approach for a solution. Otherwise, overtime it will likely solve itself but that may take lots of patience.

I have said this before. "The Villages is not perfect but it's way ahead of what ever retirement community is in second place." Enough said. Jim

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by maureenod

If they are getting picked up at dropped off, they are probably illegals. I would think there would be cheaper rentals outside the bubble, unless the owner is the subcontractor.

How would one get pictures of the beds, or why? Peeping Tom.

In another words.........you don't know!

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by kstew43

I think you might of missed the facts......they did say that this issue WAS reported to the proper authorities.....with no indications of correcting the problems..

In my opinion, that is why they took there hardships to the forum.

And we know all problems are solved here!

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by justjim

Rentals are a big business in The Villages. I talked not long ago to a man and wife who said they owned 26 rented properties in The Villages. They are not the only ones that make a business of owing and renting out homes in TV. A number however, I believe are folks who have not retired yet that rent out their home until they retire. I personally know some in the new area of TV who do just that. There are few, if any, issues or problems with these rentals.

What has been pointed out in this Thread is a problem to owners in their neighborhood, and they are looking for answers to a particular set of problems in their neighborhood of Courtyard Villas. That is not to say that this is a widespread problem across all Villas in TV. It's sort of like the abandoned house issue in TV that occasionally occurs. Tough on neighborhoods and a difficult frustrating problem that can take months and sometime years to solve.

It's real when it's in your backyard but not so real when it's somebody's else's issue and problem. In TV, we don't have a mayor or city council to take our issue to---we have TOTV, the other no name paper, VHA, POA, the district CDD, The Daily Sun, Perhaps The Developer and maybe others that I left out thinking off the top of my head.

Well, by now you see the point. Who has any authority to solve this problem outlined in this Thread? That is the person or persons to approach for a solution. Otherwise, overtime it will likely solve itself but that may take lots of patience.

I have said this before. "The Villages is not perfect but it's way ahead of what ever retirement community is in second place." Enough said. Jim

Well said!

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by justjim

Rentals are a big business in The Villages. I talked not long ago to a man and wife who said they owned 26 rented properties in The Villages. They are not the only ones that make a business of owing and renting out homes in TV. A number however, I believe are folks who have not retired yet that rent out their home until they retire. I personally know some in the new area of TV who do just that. There are few, if any, issues or problems with these rentals.

What has been pointed out in this Thread is a problem to owners in their neighborhood, and they are looking for answers to a particular set of problems in their neighborhood of Courtyard Villas. That is not to say that this is a widespread problem across all Villas in TV. It's sort of like the abandoned house issue in TV that occasionally occurs. Tough on neighborhoods and a difficult frustrating problem that can take months and sometime years to solve.

It's real when it's in your backyard but not so real when it's somebody's else's issue and problem. In TV, we don't have a mayor or city council to take our issue to---we have TOTV, the other no name paper, VHA, POA, the district CDD, The Daily Sun, Perhaps The Developer and maybe others that I left out thinking off the top of my head.

Well, by now you see the point. Who has any authority to solve this problem outlined in this Thread? That is the person or persons to approach for a solution. Otherwise, overtime it will likely solve itself but that may take lots of patience.

I have said this before. "The Villages is not perfect but it's way ahead of what ever retirement community is in second place." Enough said. Jim

JustJim: perhaps you missed my posts. However i have repeated at least six times on these pages for the past two years that I presented the rental policy issue to the District and was told they have NO LEGAL OR ADMINISTRATIVE power to do anything. Again I asked the rhetorical question well then who does and was met by silence.

Posters are jumping all over the board on this issue when the simply fact is that this no hold bars rental policy may have serious consequences to this community as it has for other Florida community..Cooler heads prevail and I invite others to do what I did and voice their concerns/questions to the District, VHOA POA
A win win solution can be achieved but picking on people who have witnessed concerns because of rental properties here is simply not productive. I opine others can decide.

Personal Best Regards:

[wendyquat]

I would not know where to look for it but it makes sense to me that there may be restrictions on number of occupants of a home. We have rented many vacation homes over the years and most do have a maximum occupancy which I think may be a code issue! Not sure where it originates but seems plausible.

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by wendyquat

I would not know where to look for it but it makes sense to me that there may be restrictions on number of occupants of a home. We have rented many vacation homes over the years and most do have a maximum occupancy which I think may be a code issue! Not sure where it originates but seems plausible.

wendquat: I pray you are correct....but then I ask who is overseeing /enforcing any rules if they do exist. With that there will be those who will spew out "my rights" and I do concur. However, with rights come responsibilities and if responsible people are not responsible then come consequences and consequences usually fall on innocent people. I do not want to rain on anyone's parade but I don't want to get wet either. One poster spoke of a person that owned multiple rental units that could be a real concern?

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by Happydaz

Ridiculous! Do you want signed statements submitted? How about we get the Orlando TV stations involved. Maybe also the state and national newspapers. You want pictures?

There are three posters on this thread that have reported this situation. It is real. If you don't believe us that is your problem. The OP said call the Villages rec department and see if a Pinellas pool monitor asked a group of young men to leave. They probably won't disclose this info to you, but you could try. You want real proof? Get it yourself. I have never seen so many obnoxious, nervy people on one thread.

I like that idea. That might excite the powers that be to at least address the issue of "bunk houses". There is a person who I believe works for the Orlando Sentinel who periodically writes articles on TV. She might be a good start.

[outlaw]

Regarding the "bunk houses", I think there may be restrictions regarding the number of adults/families living in a single house. It may be a deed restriction or a county restriction.

[Happydaz]

I spoke with a Villages employee yesterday about this situation. This was the same employee who had asked a group of us about this situation a few weeks ago and asked us if we knew anything. He said that there were two rentals involved. So 8 or 7 men in each unit comes up to the number 15 that a previous poster mentioned, He also said the situation hasn't been resolved as far as he was concerned so maybe some action will be taken, but as already been stated by others, without rules owners are free to rent to whomever they please. Still could you imagine what would happen if two premier homes were rented out like this? Do you think some kind of action would be taken or proposed? Maybe we do need some new rules on rental units in The Villages.