[justjim]

Originally Posted by PennBF

I am betting the farm that the ones who don't see anything wrong with this own large homes and are not exposed to the problems short term, non restricted rentals bring to a community. I doubt they care about the one who, because of the nature of the community have no way to protect against the abuse. Am I wrong?

I'm not sure what you mean by a large home. Is a "designer" a large home? Anyway, I know many people who you may be talking about who do many hours a week of volunteer work helping in soup kitchens, thrift stores, hospital, etc. etc. and who donate not only their money but also their time to many community charities. Let's not put those who worked hard, grew up poor and saved their money and happen to own a large house into a pigeon hole of not caring about their "brothers and sisters" who are less fortunate. That is not fair and As one who has lived in The Villages 10 years (first home was a patio Villa) I don't find that living in a large home has anything to do with this Thread.

I'm guessing that the "boss" who rented the Villa for the workers thought that because it was behind closed walls that would make it all right. This situation is an exception and not the rule in The Villages. None of us would want to live next door, behind or across the street from what the OP described. Just a thought........

[bbbbbb]

Originally Posted by villagerjack

Been here 10 years in a Courtyard Villa and never saw a single instance of what you are referring to. The lack of any real evidence of your descriptions is disturbing. I do question some of the motivations of some who may not even live in the Villages since these kinds if comments would tend to affect home values. So why would anyone stoop to that level??

From bbbbbb We do live in the Villages. We really like the Villages and we want to see it preserved. We actually do things to promote that. It seems some folks have different standards, some folks care and some do not. For posters who have expressed concern, they may see a trend and are trying to do something about it, that is admiral in our book and it is a nice thing to see that a lot of folks recognize a problem and want to see a solution. Just downgrading that person accomplishes nothing for sure. For the postings that are here, it seems most folks want to increase home values in a positive way.
Good luck to those who care. bbbbbb

[bbbbbb]

Originally Posted by justjim

I'm not sure what you mean by a large home. Is a "designer" a large home? Anyway, I know many people who you may be talking about who do many hours a week of volunteer work helping in soup kitchens, thrift stores, hospital, etc. etc. and who donate not only their money but also their time to many community charities. Let's not put those who worked hard, grew up poor and saved their money and happen to own a large house into a pigeon hole of not caring about their "brothers and sisters" who are less fortunate. That is not fair and As one who has lived in The Villages 10 years (first home was a patio Villa) I don't find that living in a large home has anything to do with this Thread.

I'm guessing that the "boss" who rented the Villa for the workers thought that because it was behind closed walls that would make it all right. This situation is an exception and not the rule in The Villages. None of us would want to live next door, behind or across the street from what the OP described. Just a thought........

bbbbb The post by PENNbf is outstanding for sure.

[Fuzz323]

NIMBY applies here - "Until I can hear it and see it it doesn't bother me" But if it IS next door WOW!!

[asianthree]

Depending on the neighbor I can sometimes take their comments with a grain of salt. First house a patio villa, we had a neighbor few doors down, tell us when we came down, how much the owner never cared about the house, took care of the house. She would have to call and have the lawn cut and the shrubs taken care of, have someone clean the outside of the house and added pine straw and sent the bill to the owners. I asked one day how well she knew the owners and she said very well they've just never shown up after they first bought the house. Your just a renter. I smiled not sure if she was just very confused. She had come to our house on five separate occasions, didn't realize that we are the owners. Sometimes there are those neighbors who are confused on different days. Our other neighbors in fact would email us and let us know everything was doing well after storms, at our house as well as our home watch person. Sometimes you just get a crazy neighbor. We sold the house and the new owners love the house use it as a vacation home, however the crazy neighbor down the street is now calling them and threatening them to have things done to the house because they just don't care. New owners love the house don't appreciate the neighbor. Glad we moved. I don't agree that all owners who rent don't care about their home, it's about the money. If there is a problem you could drop a note to the owner, they may not know what's going on.

[justjim]

No retirement community is perfect but after looking at several over a span of three years we settled on Florida and The Villages. The Villages is by far the best IMHO. I have no idea why the Developer didn't put a minimum of 3 months on renting a house in the deed restrictions. Personally, I think it would have been a good idea. Perhaps, it was because of not having a mandatory HOA and having the HOA deal with violators or perhaps something else. At this point it really doesn't matter. It is what it is and The Villages is still a great place to live.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by justjim

This situation is an exception and not the rule in The Villages.

I think that is a true observation.

[CFrance]

I wonder if there is an occupancy rate restriction for single family homes in whatever county this villa the OP refers to is in.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by rivaridger1

Interesting response. Come out, come out wherever you are ---- Come on, get real. Suggest you check with the management of The Village sales office at Lake Sumter Landing who we understand has been apprised of the situation and also the Recreation Dept. who has already dealt with one pool party and chased more then a few individuals out as a result. Okay, eight or nine young men piling into a pick up truck to go to work early every morning is not a " labor gang ". It is simply eight or nine or more young men piling into the back of a pick up truck every morning to go to work. You are also absolutely correct people can rent their homes to anyone and that is exactly what the folks at the rental division of the Villages Realty have evidently said.

What does this mean? Second hand? Told by someone at the Sales Office?

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by PennBF

I am betting the farm that the ones who don't see anything wrong with this own large homes and are not exposed to the problems short term, non restricted rentals bring to a community. I doubt they care about the one who, because of the nature of the community have no way to protect against the abuse. Am I wrong?

I believe that no matter the size of the home, the rules are the same. Can you imagine how a person would feel if they read on here that those living in a smaller home don't care about other people having problems with uncaring renters abusing a situation??? What in the world does the size of the home and the implied amount of money have to do with how people care about others???

I will tell you. Not a damn thing.

P.S. We rented in Harmeswood when our home was being built. Homes of all shapes and sizes are rented to all kinds of people...MOSTLY NICE well behaved people. As others have said, this isn't a widespread problem. It is deplorable but not the norm. Why would anyone want to make people think that it is the norm???

[rjm1cc]

I think this is a good reminder that the rental policy in a community is important. I think daily, weekly etc rentals are not in keeping with what most people are looking for in a retirement community. I think their are reasons why residences may want/need to rent their property but I think requirements such as 6 month or 1 year rental periods are a reasonable compromise for all.

[rivaridger1]

This is for Bogie Shooter who likes to parse. We are required to be nice, so I will be. At any time you can phone The Villages sales office at Lake Sumter Landing ask for a manager and inquire whether there have been any complaints about this situation. You can also call the recreation department and ask whether the statements in this thread about asking young men in masse to leave the Pinellas pool are factual. You have questions. Why not obtain the answers to them from the proverbial horses mouth ?

[jbdlfan]

My hypothesis..... owner of construction company, be it concrete or home builder, buys home for a great price considering the relationship with the developer. One of the perks in hiring is a rent free home while employee is working. Once area is built out, rehab home and sell for a profit. Seems reasonable to me. Don't agree with it, but just my assessment.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by jbdlfan

My hypothesis..... owner of construction company, be it concrete or home builder, buys home for a great price considering the relationship with the developer. One of the perks in hiring is a rent free home while employee is working. Once area is built out, rehab home and sell for a profit. Seems reasonable to me. Don't agree with it, but just my assessment.

You make a good point and my gut feeling is that you very well may be correct.

If I owned a construction company doing long term work in TV, I would certainly look very hard at this exact option.



As to limiting rents to 3 months or more, I am a bit ambivalent on that one.

A two week, then a month rental the following year.....is what made up our minds to buy here.

Had we not had that option, it's entirely likely that we would have missed being able to live the entire TV 'experience.'

Conversely, short-term rentals to those who are not all that responsible to begin with...can be a real issue.

[kstew43]

Originally Posted by PennBF

I am betting the farm that the ones who don't see anything wrong with this own large homes and are not exposed to the problems short term, non restricted rentals bring to a community. I doubt they care about the one who, because of the nature of the community have no way to protect against the abuse. Am I wrong?

just imagine how many workers you could squeeze into a bigger home...

3 beds to a room and 3 more in the den, 3 in the dining room....probably fit about 15 or more construction workers, all splitting the rent, 15 ways.....pretty darn cheap.....about 6-8 trucks squeezed in the driveway..... welcome neighbors....

Think about it.... it could happen... need changes in the rules .....