[JP]

I think these two "new commissioners" were elected on false promises and now their "real" intent has been exposed and they are going to not be so popular.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by JP

I think these two "new commissioners" were elected on false promises and now their "real" intent has been exposed and they are going to not be so popular.

I'm not sure if it was false promises or ignorance (they thought they could reverse the 25%).


Either way, the voters were ignorant to vote based on a promise with no funding plan.

[Advogado]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

I'm not sure if it was false promises or ignorance (they thought they could reverse the 25%).


Either way, the voters were ignorant to vote based on a promise with no funding plan.

You are mistaken. There was, and is, a definite funding plan:
>End the sweetheart impact fee,
>Impose reasonable impact fees to cover new county infrastructure resulting from development, and
>Roll back the property-tax increase in an amount equivalent to the increased revenue from impact fees.

The EMS team made that very clear when they were running for office. The Developer seems to have been effective in at least stalling the implementation of that plan, as I explained in my original post. Hopefully, the Developer will not be successful in killing it, thereby making permanent our 25% property-tax increase-- which I gather you are entirely in favor of.

[Advogado]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

We still have the freedom to disagree with his opinion. I have been disagreeing with many of the opinions from Avocado for many years. I don't think the developer is doing anything but running a business in such a way that all of our properties here are much more solid than other property in this strange financial world now being dallied with by the young.

I do have advice of my own;.....Stay safe, stay away from those who run around close to others without a mask. No matter what they say about that virus...It's a killer.

So, you are in favor of the Developer's Commissioners increasing your property tax by 25% while preserving the Developer's sweetheart impact fee? If so, your position is logical; otherwise, it is not.

I don't begrudge the Developer's making tons of money. He just shouldn't be doing it at taxpayer expense.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by Advogado

>Impose reasonable impact fees to cover new county infrastructure resulting from development, and
>Roll back the property-tax increase in an amount equivalent to the increased revenue from impact fees..

(see if you have learned anything from other threads)


And how much is the "reasonable impact fee" according to EMS plan??

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by Advogado

>Impose reasonable impact fees

Come on back.............The EMS ran on reversing the entire 25% increase. What was the proposed "reasonable impact fee" to cover the reversal of the 25% increase contained in "the plan" ???

[JoMar]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

(see if you have learned anything from other threads)


And how much is the "reasonable impact fee" according to EMS plan??

As I stated before, I am not in favor of higher impact fees that will slow growth and stop commercial development and have made that clear to the Commissioners (as have many others who can see the larger picture). As with all that run for office, make promises you can't keep and once you learn what your promises will do run as fast as you can. The new wannabe "puppeteers and minions and whatever else you want to label the supporters of the triad" will find that the responsibility of the Commissioners is to grow the economy of the County, keep it's residents safe and promote growth to increase revenue. That will be against the selfish motivation of those that voted them in and now believe the triad should be their puppets.

[Advogado]

Originally Posted by JoMar

As I stated before, I am not in favor of higher impact fees that will slow growth and stop commercial development and have made that clear to the Commissioners (as have many others who can see the larger picture). As with all that run for office, make promises you can't keep and once you learn what your promises will do run as fast as you can. The new wannabe "puppeteers and minions and whatever else you want to label the supporters of the triad" will find that the responsibility of the Commissioners is to grow the economy of the County, keep it's residents safe and promote growth to increase revenue. That will be against the selfish motivation of those that voted them in and now believe the triad should be their puppets.

Two thirds of the voters in Sumter County think you are wrong, and they voted accordingly. Reasonable impact fees will not stop growth. Click on the Flagler County link in my original post.

What has been going on in Sumter County is the Developer offloading on to the current residents infrastructure costs that should be the Developer's. This whole matter should have been decided in the last election. Now, for some reason, Mr. Estep has voted to defer doing what he promised to-- reneging on his campaign promise and disappointing the voters who believed him.

[Advogado]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Come on back.............The EMS ran on reversing the entire 25% increase. What was the proposed "reasonable impact fee" to cover the reversal of the 25% increase contained in "the plan" ???

An impact fee study is necessary. As you should know, nobody has exact numbers at this point.

[JoMar]

Originally Posted by Advogado

Two thirds of the voters in Sumter County think you are wrong, and they voted accordingly. Reasonable impact fees will not stop growth. Click on the Flagler County link in my original post.

What has been going on in Sumter County is the Developer offloading on to the current residents infrastructure costs that should be the Developer's. This whole matter should have been decided in the last election. Now, for some reason, Mr. Estep has voted to defer doing what he promised to-- reneging on his campaign promise and disappointing the voters who believed him.

I really don't care.....I know what will happen. Been there, have the tee shirt. The 2/3 you speak of voted emotionally and now they want to control the triad (puppeteers). Now that the triad is learning what the requirements are I hope they have the intestinal fortitude to do what's right for the County and not pander to those that are trying to make them dance to their tune.

[Stu from NYC]

I sent an email to Mr E and he wrote back to me explaining his reasoning.

Still trying to come to grips with what he said and decide if it makes sense or not.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

I sent an email to Mr E and he wrote back to me explaining his reasoning.

Still trying to come to grips with what he said and decide if it makes sense or not.

To much common sense?

[Happydaz]

4,177. 6,244. 6,657. 6,914. 14,789. 38,780. (Listed is the number of posts.)

Interesting to see that all the very high posters on this thread favored the developer and keeping the low impact fees as they are. Those who support raising the impact fees have lower posting counts. Is there a professional group of posters on this site who dominate others with their torrent of posts? Does a small group of posters represent the voters of Sumter County?

[kappy]

What is the cause of the additional costs to Sumter County? Obviously, the expansion of The Villages below Rt. 44. If that is the case, why is Sumter County asking all the homeowners and businesses north of Rt. 44 to pay for those costs? These additional costs for Sumter County should logically be paid for by impact fees. That is the purpose of impact fees. If the impact fees for building a house in The Villages goes up by $1458, The Villages will continue to be the #1 growing adult community in the country as it has been for the past 11 years. Yes, #1 in the country. Of course, businesses will continue to flock to Sumter County just because of all this population increase. So why has Commissioner Estep decided to jump ship? Was there a meeting that caused this? It is time for Commissioner Estep to explain why he is no longer honoring his campaign pledge and abandoning the two other members of the EMS team. Send Commissioner Estep an email at craig.estep@sumtercountyfl.gov and ask him to explain why he is now going against all the voters who put him in office. After all, a man is only as good as his word.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

I sent an email to Mr E and he wrote back to me explaining his reasoning.

Still trying to come to grips with what he said and decide if it makes sense or not.

Can you share the response so others can make their own interpretation of it?