[baustgen]

I vote with ALN. Glad to have them support our merchants. They can't get into the pools or golf. I personally golf at Stonecrest when things get crowded here.

[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by OldManTime

Late Friday afternoon i saw five Golf Carts from Stonecrest (had stickers on the carts) go through the gate (The Wall) off Paradise, each handing off a gate pass in order to get in. This is not fair where I pay amenity fees, and those people steel the rights of the villagers. Petty thieves they are.
I told the Gate keeper on Boon, he could care less that they come in.

How do you know that they don't legally have a card? Or are you just guessing?

[mgjim]

Originally Posted by justjim

[Snipped]----I don't care if they drive their cars or golf cart or fly in!

I'm picturing some sort of catapult to launch them over the wall.

[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by DonH57

If this is true a gate card was used illegally it would be deactivated. I would think the card reader would see multiple entrys in that very short time span.

That card reader has no network access. All it cares about is to see and RFI Signature and it opens. Where there is a will there is always a hack to get around the obstruction.

[janmcn]

Most of The Villages residents reponding to the OP couldn't even find the Paradise gate without a map, IMO.

This entryway had not been a problem for the past few decades until the developer got his knickers in a knot because of who knows what. If he was afraid the assisted living facility was going to take advantage of TV, he should visit an ALF sometime.

IMO, it is better to have five golf carts visiting, than five cars taking up space. Stonecresters are having the last laugh, and Villagers hate to feel duped.

[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by janmcn

Most of The Villages residents reponding to the OP couldn't even find the Paradise gate without a map, IMO.

This entryway had not been a problem for the past few decades until the developer got his knickers in a knot because of who knows what. If he was afraid the assisted living facility was going to take advantage of TV, he should visit an ALF sometime.

IMO, it is better to have five golf carts visiting, than five cars taking up space. Stonecresters are having the last laugh, and Villagers hate to feel duped.

Pretty silly isn't it?

[gomoho]

Who really cares??? what damage are they doing??? I can't imagine the small amount of traffic they will subject the paths to will make any difference one way or the other. Sorry, guess that are several that really
care and I don't mean to dismiss your feelings. I just don't understand why it is a problem.

[graciegirl]

I think there are two thousand residents with probably close to that many carts.


I think we have enough golf cart traffic with the card carrying villagers and enough traffic accidents.


And Janmcn. The wall and subsequent gate was placed at that time PROBABLY because Sumter Inc was going into negotiations in a few days with Fruitland Park and they didn't want to have to allow that area golf cart access. They couldn't argue that case with the other end open. My guess is as good as yours and probably more favorable to the developer because I like big business.


Most villagers do not try to breach the gates of Stonecrest illegally. Just sayin'.


No ticket. No laundry.

[justjim]

Originally Posted by janmcn

Most of The Villages residents reponding to the OP couldn't even find the Paradise gate without a map, IMO.

This entryway had not been a problem for the past few decades until the developer got his knickers in a knot because of who knows what. If he was afraid the assisted living facility was going to take advantage of TV, he should visit an ALF sometime.

IMO, it is better to have five golf carts visiting, than five cars taking up space. Stonecresters are having the last laugh, and Villagers hate to feel duped.

Janmcn: You make a great point about cars taking up more than twice the space of a golf cart. IMHO this whole issue is "much to do about nothing."

It was most likely some lawyer that caused the "wall" to be midnight built in the first place. In the words of the great philosopher Forrest Gump, thats all I've got to say about that. I'm gone---watching Bay hill Tournament.

[buggyone]

Originally Posted by Steve9930

You have no legal authority to do what you have just suggested. Matter of fact you could be arrested for assault if you physically detained any one for not committing a crime. Life's not fair get over it.

Just like a ticket-taker at an amusement park checks for valid tickets and turns those away who are not properly ticketed. No one said anything about physically detaining a person.

The trail going through Paradise Gate is private property and if a person does not have a valid Villages or valid guest ID, they are trespassing.

That is the legal authority.

[graciegirl]

Steve. You live in Stonecrest, so you have your views.


This has all been discussed before and Peachie is a pretty good voice on this thread. I know her personally and know her to be intelligent and reasonable. She says it better than I can for sure.


Stonecrest still wants free use of The Villages

[buggyone]

Originally Posted by Steve9930

Not even close to the same thing. Try it I hear the jail food is not bad.

[rubicon]

Some issues just ring true. Take for instance the belief that if player steps out of the batters box his average goes down.

Take for instance if you ignore one violator pretty soon 1 becomes 100, then 1000.

Take for instance that you must pay to play but Stonecrest people were told they had better homes, true gated community and use of The Villages Lifestyle without paying.

We are not yet at completely built out and based on the months of February/March 2014 crowding is becoming a real problem

So I think this is a very big deal and I so want the wall back up.

As for this we can all get along. I agree but I also agree that we would all get along better if you were not sticking a finger in my eye

[bargee]

If you are so intent on enjoying the Villages lifestyle there are plenty of houses for sale here.Come on over!

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by joannej

Some Stonecrest residents have rental property here in TV and that's why they have gate keys and enjoy the ammenities here....just saying....

joanne: perhaps what you suggest is correct? However, how many Stonecrest residents are we talking about and what right do they have passing around their gate pass to non residents. If this is not a violation he ought to be . How are we harmed? That is the point because we don't know the depth and the breath of this issue.