[rp001]

I'm sure Ms Tutt's comment was taken out of context...That being said, for her to emphatically state " I run this district", is just plain arrogance..She needs to go....NOW!!! There should be no place in administration for that type of attitude and arrogance and total disregard for the folks affected by her stupid decision, period.

[Peachie]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

I think that everyone has to read Janet Tutt's statement a bit more carefully. She never said that social media caused the problem. She didn't blame social media for the problems that have been cause by the wall.
And I think that she is 100% correct. It's exactly what I've said about speculation in several posts on this site.

She gave the reason that the wall was built.

In another article she stated that they made a mistake and didn't realize how much that it would affect the lives of the residents.

For some people this will never end. People asked for an answer to why the wall was built. An answer was given. Many of those people are saying, that they don't believe that answer. People also wanted the wall taken down and the path reopened. That is apparently going to happen and yet many people want to continue to create controversy over who came up with the plan to open the path.

Some people have a pre conceived notion that the developer is simply a bad guy that hates all of us and cares only about money. I think that too many people have seen the movie characters Ebenezer Scrooge and Gordon Gecko and believe that those people really exist.

As far as I am concerned, the answer to why the wall was put up has been answered. An apology has been issued for the way that it was done and a solution has been arrived at that will open the wall and allow Villages residents to have the access to the businesses that we've always had.

I don't really care about any of the rest of it. I don't really care who came up with solution. I thank Janet Tutt for taking responsibility and apologizing. All that you can do when you make a mistake is explain it, apologize for it and rectify it. I see that that is what has been done in this situation.

Wish I would have said this, Winston, I like your analysis.

[redwitch]

Well, it seems like the least Morse could do is give us some sort of access from Orange Blossom to the doctors and urgent care until the wall is down and the gate installed. Until that happens, I'm not going to hold my breath believing that the wall will ever be removed. Words are easy, actions are what make the difference.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by Bucco

As this board becomes overwhelmed with anti Village, anti Morse family, anti developer folks, keep in mind that when Harold started this place, and when he died, it was a pittance compared to the present time. This is not an easy place to "run"...it is extremely complicated an while some may think they have all the answers, I wonder because they do not even have all the facts to come to an answer.

Expressing concern, questioning why is all fine but the sarcastic comments about this man, his family, the paper is not only uncalled for, but step back....it is lacking in any credence. Express your questions, but being sarcastic about the "kingdom" as someone termed it is just not productive to anything.

I have been here for a bit, and questioned a number of things, but sometimes as I pursued my question, I found out that maybe, just maybe, the developer or the folks in charge had mucho more information than I to make their decision and to my knowledge make decisions in the best interest of The Villages...perhaps not what I want and perhaps not always what he or the family wants, but based on law, facts, etc....never knew them to hurt or do anything that would hurt the residents just to hurt them.

Good common-sense post.

[Arctic Fox]

Originally Posted by deltaguy

Although actually accurate, the term "strum und drang" represents a level of intellectual capacity that is not likely understood by 99+% of readers of this Thread.

and, since I had to look it up on Google, here's what it means:

Sturm und Drang, (German: “Storm and Stress”)

(German literary movement of the late 18th century that exalted nature, feeling, and human individualism and sought to overthrow the Enlightenment cult of Rationalism.)

well, there has been a storm over the wall, and I feel stressed, so I must agree that it is a good phrase to use

[cabo35]

Life was good in the Kingdom. The benevolent dictator King provided all that most of his subjects needed or desired. They were happy. Outside the Kingdom walls were small settlements that chose not to reside in the Kingdom thereby avoiding the King's modest taxation and rules. There was a moat around the original dominion of the king. It helped ensure the security of the Kingdom. The King build a road and a great bridge for his people so that they might enjoy the expanding, vast, rich, bountiful lands to the West.

All was well for a long time. The King allowed the surrounding neighbors to partake of the many benefits inside his dominion. Then he built a path so that his subjects could access and enjoy amenities outside his province. Access to the path was controlled by a gate and a key issued to each of his Kingdom tax paying subjects. Happiness prevailed until others outside the empire wanted to use the path as well. The gate was frequently broken and under repair allowing unfettered access to all. In capitulation, the King removed the gate. (This is historically correct according to original Kingdom settlers).

Recently when dragons in the form of liability, security and perceived abuses of the pathway came to bare......the King, unceremoniously, without warning, in the middle of the night decided to slay the dragons and build a wall to restrict all access to HIS path. Protests in and out of the Kingdom echoed through the streets and halls of governance. The dragons were slain but the collateral damage was unacceptable.

Acting quickly, the Kings minions announced they would build a new gate with keys for all Kingdom taxpaying villagers. This substantially quelled the voices of many inside the gates. Outside the gates, including an area known as Crests of Stone, pockets of acrimony continue. A noble orator and frequent critic of the King, originally from a great Commonwealth, now residing in the Crests of Stone, continues to rally for free and unfettered (uncompensated) access to the King's path. His protests continue to stir the caldron of discontent for those who dislike or resent the Kingdom's benevolent dictator.

The loyal opposition to the King would remind his detractors that while occasionally he may incur the ire of some of his subjects for perceived tyrannical actions, please remember.....he is OUR tyrant.

How will this fairy tale end? Let's hope that after the dragons are slain, the gate is opened and diplomacy is exercised, everyone will live happily in peace and harmony ever after.

[EdV]

Originally Posted by mulligan

Y'all still seem to be missing the key point in the proposed solution. The undeveloped house lot inside the wall will be deeded to the vcdd (NOT THE VCCDD) rendering it private property. I don't believe there's any obligation on the part of the vcdd to allow cart traffic to cross private property.

Mulligan, there's no CDD in TV named VCDD. That was a TYPO in the news article. The VCCDD which stands for Village Center Community Development District and is the governing body for the historic side of TV including Orange Blossom Hills where the cart path in question is located.

Hope this helps.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by EdV

Mulligan, there's no CDD in TV named VCDD. That was a TYPO in the news article. The VCCDD which stands for Village Center Community Development District and is the governing body for the historic side of TV including Orange Blossom Hills where the cart path in question is located.

Hope this helps.

Sorry, but I am looking at my amenities bill as I type this and the heading says, VCCD Villages Community Development District.

[EdV]

Originally Posted by Peachie

I'm learning a lot from this discussion, EdV. If the builder of the bridge was Morse and he built it with an easement from the state to reach his private development on the other side of 27/441 that would probably make it a private bridge. But I'm unable to find out or determine by fact at this point if it is indeed public or private. I'm still researching.

The private paths, (or so I thought), that I was addressing were the paths between the public roadway and the access to the private Village property adjacent to the park, parking lot and the dog run area by the bridge. Am I to understand that's all public property?

Thanks for your patience in enlightening me.

Here ya go Peachie.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by rp001

I'm sure Ms Tutt's comment was taken out of context...That being said, for her to emphatically state " I run this district", is just plain arrogance..She needs to go....NOW!!! There should be no place in administration for that type of attitude and arrogance and total disregard for the folks affected by her stupid decision, period.

Let's put that particular statement in context.

She took issue with the “rumor and misinformation” that the developer had approached she and Gottschalk with the plan for a gate.
“I run this district,” she said.

She was saying that there was an implication that she is a mere puppet of the developer, who really runs the district, and that it is not true.

[schwarz]

Freedom Point is ONLY independent living at this point...It is NOT a assisted living facility

[rubicon]

It is astonishing that this thread continues and is up to 899 posts now. When reviewing these posts I noticed that the same information, opinions, etc have been introduced and re-introduced. This leads me to conclude that posters mostly just want to continue to vent.
I hope the people in charge of The Villages build a wall all around it because its the right thing to do, the fair thnik to do and the safest think to do.

All installing a gate will do is cause people to knocked it down

[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by EdV

Here ya go Peachie.

Sounds like the bridge is a commercial venture just like the shops. Privately owned with public access.

[njbchbum]

Originally Posted by PennBF

OK, here you have a Developer who puts together a terrific community at their risk and work and then builds Assisted Living for the members/residents of the community. Another person(s) see a profit in using the Developers risks and builds an assisted living facility and advertises it can use the advantages built and risked by the original Village Developer. Does anyone think that is fair. Remember the owner of the "Off Site" assisted living is in it for a profit it is not a charitable endeavor. So they would be riding off the back of the Developer. Then everyone gets upset when the Developer draws a line in the sand and wants some controls over the usage of his work. Of course if the Developer does not put a "Badge Controlled Gate" up for the Village residents then all bets off.!!! In addition the "Off Site Assisted Living" is in competition with the Developer and they are using his work to set up their business. Remember, it is a business. Have you priced the cost of entering one of these Assisted Livings. You will quickly learn that it is a business and not a "Religion".
(As aside: I see some use the terms "Drinking the Cool Aid" I am not sure if they know that is a direct reference to the many people who died at Johnstown and terribly disrespectable to those who had relatives or friends there and were poisoned. Although I don't personally know of anyone I still think it is appropriate to respect those that were poisoned and their relatives, etc.)

FAIR? there is little in life or about life that i can think of that is fair! but why go into a litany of that? the new assisted living complex has been known about and under construction for quite some time - not a new thing by any means. if, indeed, it was the golf cart access to that facility that put the burr under mr. morse's saddle, why did he just not explain that to villages residents and announce that he would be closing off that access point and give a short period of time for folks to adjust. instead with less than a day's posted and otherwise unannounced notice his people come at break of dawn and install the concrete curtain. i ask, where is the fairness in that?

[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by rubicon

It is astonishing that this thread continues and is up to 899 posts now. When reviewing these posts I noticed that the same information, opinions, etc have been introduced and re-introduced. This leads me to conclude that posters mostly just want to continue to vent.
I hope the people in charge of The Villages build a wall all around it because its the right thing to do, the fair thnik to do and the safest think to do.

All installing a gate will do is cause people to knocked it down

Works for me.