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Old 10-04-2022, 07:45 PM
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US Census is done every 10 years. Last was 2020.
Next will be 2030.
When you get the form you will have no doubt that it's legitimate.
Except, you're wrong (as are several others who posted this evening without reading the rest of the thread).

The US Census bureau has more than one Census; it has a few. One is the Population and Housing Census, which is sent once every 10 years.

Another is the Economic Census, which is sent every five years, and not to every household.

You can read all about the different Censuses here: Our Censuses, U.S. Census Bureau Censuses
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Old 10-05-2022, 06:03 AM
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It never ceases to amaze me how many Americans hate America...
huh?????? that comment makes no sense at all
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Old 10-05-2022, 07:09 AM
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I received similar. Threw it away.
I wouldn’t pursue if someone calls you stupid.
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I wouldn't answer any survey with any personal questions. And, I definitely wouldn't play along with the government and answer any questions about ethnicity, gender, etc. Just fill in, "human.". They already have too much personal info.
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I would toss it even if it was legitimate.
Feel free to toss, which I did, but the mailings continued with strong wording until I complied. Doing the research, my mailing appeared legitimate.
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It is probably the American Community Survey which seems to be run non stop by the census bureau. I mean you do have to justify this government entity somehow the years the real census is not taking place.

If you read the instructions, it says that you can just skip any question you don't want to answer. I believe it also says you can just opt not to do it. That is what I did with 90% of the questions the first time they sent it to me.

The second time, a few years later, I just threw it in the garbage. After awhile you will start receiving phone calls asking about your progress and if you have any questions. I just stopped answering them. Then they had people coming to my door and since I was away most of the time, I would find notices on my door. I just ignored them. Then, finally, I was home and somebody came to the door asking about it. I just told them I was not going to fill it out. She then said "So, you are refusing to participate?" I said "Yes" . She then turned around and walked away and I have never heard another thing about it. That was in 2018 or 2019.
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I wouldn't answer any survey with any personal questions. And, I definitely wouldn't play along with the government and answer any questions about ethnicity, gender, etc. Just fill in, "human.". They already have too much personal info.
there is enough info on all of us in public record. they have our social, addresses & everything else they need to know about citizens already on file. the census has become a tool for redistricting, i've seen it happen
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Old 10-05-2022, 09:50 AM
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there is enough info on all of us in public record. they have our social, addresses & everything else they need to know about citizens already on file. the census has become a tool for redistricting, i've seen it happen
I believe the regular census done every years is done for redistricting no idea what they do with these other census's they do
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Strong wording. Lol. Until they put me behind bars they get two middle digits. Not happening. Need to stop fearing zealous paper pushers. All talk, little action
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The only information you are required to give are names and ages of all those living in the household. You are not required to participate in the "long form" even if you receive it. During the 2000 census we were given the long form, if the form is legitimate, it will state right on the form the required information as well as the statue that requires it. You can google the statue and verify that it's only names and ages of those living at the address.
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The only information you are required to give are names and ages of all those living in the household. You are not required to participate in the "long form" even if you receive it. During the 2000 census we were given the long form, if the form is legitimate, it will state right on the form the required information as well as the statue that requires it. You can google the statue and verify that it's only names and ages of those living at the address.
You are referring to ONE type of Census. As I already stated, there are more than one. If you scroll up you'll see a hyperlink to the actual Census Bureau, which details what kinds of Census surveys there are, how often they're sent, what they do with the information, who gets them, etc. etc. etc.
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Old 10-05-2022, 04:51 PM
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I was a team leader for the 2010 census. Do I believe the census was 100% accurate? No, why? You can't get every house in the US, some refuse to answer, others lie on it (I don't understand why). Some of the team leaders encouraged their people to fill in forms for people they couldn't find. (I found out that their boss got some kind of bonus.
I did the best I could to get accurate numbers.
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Just looked online and the American community surgery form is 20 pages long. You state what you received was 47 pages. Could you share the NAME of the form you received?

https://www2.census.gov/programs-sur...22/quest22.pdf

I read the form in entirety and as one of the minority in this country that actually pays federal taxes and support the majority who do NOT pay federal taxes, I would NOT fill out this form.

Given how extremely personal and intrusive this form is I can’t imagine anyone; rich or poor, intelligent or ignorant, choosing to fill this form out completely, accurately and truthfully…then popping it into our incompetent and corrupt postal system. I would imagine the average scammer, corrupt postal worker etc know what these clearly marked and unique envelopes look like and are a great source of data for potential ne’er-do-wells.

This means whatever census data we receive is highly likely for to bear no resemblance to our current American socioeconomic reality and therefore is a useless exercise in bureaucracy.

Good grief.
You mean the majority who barely make enough money to survive because the minimum wage is low or corporations who are making record profits don't pay a living wage?
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Tried to delete the double post but it won't let me. So, I just deleted the message.

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Old 10-06-2022, 06:33 AM
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Strong wording. Lol. Until they put me behind bars they get two middle digits. Not happening. Need to stop fearing zealous paper pushers. All talk, little action
Pretty much sums up the attitude of a lot of Americans, and more all the time.

On a (somewhat) related note, In September 2020 Minnesota Dept. of Health instituted a program called "Community Assessment for Public Health Emergency Response (CASPER)" where health dept. employees showed up at homes unannounced, mainly in the MSP metro area but in rural areas as well, to ask families about their COVID vaccination status and offer to do testing. To say that they received a cool response is an understatement. MDH of course put the best possible spin on it, but there were reports of doors slammed in faces, workers being asked to leave the premises in words that would get one banned here, and in some instances, armed confrontation of workers. The CASPER program was ended soon after it started--a wise move, in my opinion.

Most Americans are not sheep.
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