[My Daily Run]

Originally Posted by billethkid

there are far too many employers that treat their employees fairly to allow a specific incident cast a shadow on those who employ these parents.

Over hearing a table conversation represents only one view/side of the alleged issue!!

I did not only hear this particular conversation I worked within this particular issue...I think that employers of The Villages should take a long hard look at what the charter school is doing for them...giving them good reliable employees that the charter school was built for to bring good reliable employees to The Villages...if not for the charter school what would these employers have for employees...they should be grateful that they have parents that love their children so much that they are willing to work for low wages and be bullied by them...I think there should be a celebration for these parents who some have to drive hours to work within The Villages to give their child a good education and they should be commended not condemned.

[Buffalo Jim]

QUOTE FROM PREVIOUS POST : " It breaks my heart as I happen to hear two Mom's at a local coffee shop sitting next to me discussing it about their jobs also " .

Comments supposedly overheard in a coffee shop are a legitimate cause for action ?
Whoa Nellie !!! Is this what we have descended to ?

There are at least 2 posts in this thread which refer to " overheard conversations " .

" Charter Schools " operate with a very specific " mission " i.e. "Charter" which defines the audience they are structured to serve .
Very few if any Charter Schools are charged by the State Education Department to serve students with physical and emotional disabilities . Check with the State Education Department --- you will be told " the infrastructure necessary to serve special needs students is made available in the Public School System " .

[manaboutown]

I view the charter schools in The Villages as "perks" for current employees similar to what I once enjoyed as a staff member of The University of California. Although I lived and worked in New Mexico at a UC operated laboratory there I could send my children to a UC school for instate tuition. If I left the job, which I did before they reached college age, I lost the benefit.

[Happydaz]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

I view the charter schools in The Villages as "perks" for current employees similar to what I once enjoyed as a staff member of The University of California. Although I lived and worked in New Mexico at a UC operated laboratory there I could send my children to a UC school for instate tuition. If I left the job, which I did before they reached college age, I lost the benefit.

Of course one main difference here is that if you had children in the UC system when you left the job they could stay in the UC system even though you would then have had to pay the higher out of state tuition. A Villages Charter school student, however, must leave the school if their parent loses Village's employment. Smart, ambitious parents know that the better the education their children receive, the better chance they have to succeed in the future. I can understand these parents concerns. It reminds me of all the immigrants who came to this country and sacrificed to make sure that their children and grandchildren had better opportunities than they had. I admire the parents today who sacrifice for their children.

[ilovetv]

We have had many jobs where we had to put up with low pay and numbskull bosses that treated us poorly, but we had to bite the bullet and be quiet because we needed the job to live and pay the bills and pay off student loans over decades.

Salaried people are asked to work many times "off the clock" and their work week is rarely limited to 40 hours.

Hourly workers like servers should expect their work to be "on the clock" and they should not be "threatened" with a consequence of their kids being dumped from the charter school.

But at the same time, having a good attitude and doing a little extra work above and beyond the call of duty is what most of us have done to show we have initiative, and to make ourselves known as desirous of moving up the ladder to a better paying or managerial salaried position, like a supervisor or shift manager.....in which "off the clock" work is expected as a normal part of salaried positions.

A can-do and will-do attitude goes a long way toward moving up to a better position either inside or outside that job environment.

To me, insecure bosses who enjoy bullying underlings on the job abound in almost every job situation. The choice is often to either grin and bear it, or find another job where you need it and quit working for the playground bully.

[GaryW]

My daughter is in TVCS, My oldest graduated from their last year. We have never been threatened in any way shape or form.
I have heard the horror stories before. This I do know from personal experience. My Company use to be a Tier 2, then moved to a Tier 3 with the Charter School. Last year or just before we were eliminated all way from a qualified contractor with The Villages in any shape or form. Even though we work 50-60 hours a week for The Villages. With that said 2 workers we disqualified from TVCS.
But they were given till the end of the 9 weeks before having to remove the kids, and one was eventually granted the rest of the year due to hardships with the process. TVCS was more than willing to work and help them out....

As far as he said she said, that is exactly what it is.. There are always 2 sides to all stories,,, And if A boss did tell a employee that then that needs to be brought the The Villages attention how ever it needs to be done.

And please let us know what restraunt this was,, I will not visit them.

I have Spoken. G OUT

[Steve9930]

A good education is the key to success. What I've always wondered with so many retirees in the area paying taxes to support education with no children in school why are all the schools in the area not more like the charter school?

[Happydaz]

Originally Posted by Steve9930

A good education is the key to success. What I've always wondered with so many retirees in the area paying taxes to support education with no children in school why are all the schools in the area not more like the charter school?

A very interesting question! Maybe a lot of the extra tax money goes for other things besides education? Or money may not be the key factor in education? Many parochial schools used to educate students very well with lower sums of money than the public schools had. My sons went to a small, parochial grammar school in New Hampshire where they had recess on a small piece of blacktop and the building was old, but their education was excellent. Maybe leadership, discipline, and educational philosophy are as important as money.

[DougB]

Maybe the fact that regular public schools educate all regardless of any disabilities and/or behavioral issues and the Village Charter School picks and chooses. Go back and read post # 3 from a very knowledgeable local educator.

[Happydaz]

Originally Posted by DougB

Maybe the fact that regular public schools educate all regardless of any disabilities and/or behavioral issues and the Village Charter School picks and chooses. Go back and read post # 3 from a very knowledgeable local educator.

So the facts you state here are the reasons why charter schools outperform the regular public schools? Sounds too simplistic to me. I, personally, believe that there are other factors involved.

[NottaVillager]

Originally Posted by CFrance

It that's true, it's abominable and should be published as much as possible so a public outcry ensues and enough embarrassment caused to force a change in policy. Sure, let's cause additional trauma to the spouse and kids by kicking them out mid-term and making them start over in a new school while still grieving. How heartless can you get.

You know..what does this have to do with ANYBODY who lives in TV? The charter school system was essentially a gift from the Morses to those who work in TV. They didn't have to do it. Nobody made them do it. In essence it's their club, they get to set the rules. How they run it is most certainly NOT the business of people who live in TV.

[DougB]

Originally Posted by Happydaz

So the facts you state here are the reasons why charter schools outperform the regular public schools? Sounds too simplistic to me. I, personally, believe that there are other factors involved.

Sorry to disappoint you, but charter schools do not out perform public schools in the state of Florida.

[Jejuca]

DougB - you are absolutely correct!

[Happydaz]

It looks like I was wrong. I didn't realize how spotty the performance of many charter schools in Florida has been. I was influenced by the experience of my two grandsons that are attending two different, very competitive high schools in Philadelphia, Masterman and The Science and Leadership Academy. I had thought that they were charter schools, but they're not, they are public schools. An exam is required for admission and students are accepted from all over Philadelphia. So it looks like in some large cites the public schools provide some good school choices for motivated students.

I just wonder what it would take to improve many of our other schools in Florida as well as in the rest of the country. Today I certainly don't know the answer to these questions, but I sure knew how to "vote with my feet" when I was raising my five sons. One time I was so disappointed with my children's education that I moved my family from a small town in Vermont to Essex Junction, Vermont due to its outstanding schools. From then on whenever we moved the primary criterion for choosing a town to buy a house in was the quality of the school system.
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[DougB]

Originally Posted by Happydaz

It looks like I was wrong. I didn't realize how spotty the performance of many charter schools in Florida has been. I was influenced by the experience of my two grandsons that are attending two different, very competitive high schools in Philadelphia, Masterman and The Science and Leadership Academy. I had thought that they were charter schools, but they're not, they are public schools. An exam is required for admission and students are accepted from all over Philadelphia. So it looks like in some large cites the public schools provide some good school choices for motivated students.

I just wonder what it would take to improve many of our other schools in Florida as well as in the rest of the country. Today I certainly don't know the answer to these questions, but I sure knew how to "vote with my feet" when I was raising my five sons. One time I was so disappointed with my children's education that I moved my family from a small town in Vermont to Essex Junction, Vermont due to its outstanding schools. From then on whenever we
moved the primary criterion for choosing a town to buy a house in was the quality of the school system.
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Top criteria on my list would be involved caring parents such as yourself.