[ladydoc]

Originally Posted by paulandjean

See nothing wrong with parents grandparents teaching them how to drive.As a former teacher,you are way off base calling this child abuse. Driving a automobile yes is against the law. Driving a golf cart is not. Have you ever heard of a person getting a ticket? of course not.

I think I have read that there are tickets being given out for going over the speed limit in certain places....maybe someone who knows more about this will chime in.

[The Village Girl]

Originally Posted by paulandjean

See nothing wrong with parents grandparents teaching them how to drive.As a former teacher,you are way off base calling this child abuse. Driving a automobile yes is against the law. Driving a golf cart is not. Have you ever heard of a person getting a ticket? of course not.

The Villages is a different situation where the mode of transportation is Golf Cart. In any other community, a child would not be allowed to drive a golf cart without being stopped.

As to permissiveness and child abuse. You might want to ask the mother of the daughter who is so crippled that she won't be thrown in prison for drunk driving and killing her best friend. Her mom couldn't say no to her driving the hot mustang. Granted, some kids are lucky and don't get caught. This one did. She is my niece.

Oh, and BTW, can you let us know when your grandkids are in town so we can watch out for them?

[ladydoc]

Originally Posted by wendyquat

When my grandson was about 4 or 5 years old, he was at my house visiting. While I was busy preparing dinner, he was begging and whining for some candy. I told him NO several times explaining that candy was AFTER dinner and not before. He continued to plead for candy and I finally asked, "What part of no do you not understand?" Exasperated and in tears he replied, "But grandma,at home when I keep begging and begging, my mommy or daddy give me what I want".

Need I say more? THEREIN lies the problem! He's almost 14 now and continues to bully his parents and eventually gets everything he asks for but when I'm in charge he doesn't even try. We laugh about it now but I still stick with my guns! I only want what is best for them!

Maybe I can find a co-cart track to let them fulfill their driivng needs!

I hope he and my other 3 grandchildren will visit next summer but NO WAY are either of them driving a golf cart here in TV. Golly, it scares me sometimes!

You go, girl~

[gatherer47]

Well said-There are people on this thread and in the world who find excuses that are hard to fathom.Whoever let this child drive this cart that caused this accident deserves the harshest punishment allowed by law.

[CarGuys]

I was push mowing a acre of lawn at 10,

Loading wagons and Feeding Cows at 11

At 12 on the St Lawerence River , my Grandpa let me take the wheel of his 18ft Lyman with a 75 Johnson electric choke!

Hot days raking Hay driving a Case Farm Tractor at 13.

Pulling tandem grain wagons down the road at 14 and my first Honda Trail 90 motorcycle.

A full driver license in Grand Ledge Michigan at 15.

And as a lucky draft number 10, I was holding a weapon at 18-

Guess I grew up to fast. Would not trade any of it for the world!

Did not know while working a Farm my Mom Dad and GrandParents were child abusers. Was I in harms way , YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT! God Bless then for making me a man!

AlanJackson- " When Daddie let me Drive "

Gracie your right un supervised children that can't reach the wheel are to young on the cart paths. At least my grandfather could point me into a empty field or off road dirt farm road. Different days same danger but less lawyers.

[hedoman]

The Daily Sun could be the answer. When these child driving accidents occur they should be front page news with pictures and interviews of those who let the underage/under trained kids get away with it. That may deter some.

But ,as the Daily Sun is an "upbeat" publication, I don't know if they would even consider running an article on the dangers of letting kids loose in carts.

Other than that the fines should be huge

IMHO

[hedoman]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Were you tough on your kids?

My kids called me "the warden".

My mom was "Marge the Sarge" .....tough? Youbetcha...we had to cut the metal tips off our canvas belts as they cut us when she used them on us...

I am finally learning my way around here ....how does a visiting little kid know where to go? When I was a kid all I wanted to do was go faster either on bike or sled. What do you think these kids want to do? Take a turn too fast and WHAMMO!

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by hedoman

My mom was "Marge the Sarge" .....tough? Youbetcha...we had to cut the metal tips off our canvas belts as they cut us when she used them on us...

I am finally learning my way around here ....how does a visiting little kid know where to go? When I was a kid all I wanted to do was go faster either on bike or sled. What do you think these kids want to do? Take a turn too fast and WHAMMO!

Never used anything on their fannies but my bare hand early on and "the Look" later on seemed to accomplish things. My girls still say that when they enter a public restroom they expect someone to whisper to them to BEHAVE or ELSE! Someone had to do it. Sweetie never could find anything they did that was near as bad as he and his brothers. So I had to be the "warden". I remember making our granddaughter sit on the hearth to " think about it" when she was about six and turned around to find her eating a dish of ice cream...Guess who brought it to her...

[paulandjean]

"Marge the Sarge" MY point,do not hear anyone saying to this person,thats child abuse. Or "GG" I only used my hand on their bottom, that my friend is Child Abuse today. My point "Checkmate"

[ceejay]

Originally Posted by The Village Girl

The Villages is a different situation where the mode of transportation is Golf Cart. In any other community, a child would not be allowed to drive a golf cart without being stopped.

As to permissiveness and child abuse. You might want to ask the mother of the daughter who is so crippled that she won't be thrown in prison for drunk driving and killing her best friend. Her mom couldn't say no to her driving the hot mustang. Granted, some kids are lucky and don't get caught. This one did. She is my niece.
Oh, and BTW, can you let us know when your grandkids are in town so we can watch out for them?

I am so sorry for your niece and her parents. I can just imagine the guilt that they feel and will carry for the rest of their lives.

The world was a different place when we were growing up. Hence, the tractor driving and mini-bike riding. I once smashed into a tree on a snowmobile, head first. Thank God I was wearing a helmet.

Now these kids are playing video games with "crash 'em and smash 'em" storylines and they are feeling totally invincible with that "it could never happen to me" mantra playing in their heads.

Go ahead, hand them the keys to your golf cart.

All I know is that I don't want or need that "burden of guilt" if something does happen.

[gjbl8114]

Originally Posted by Figmo Bohica

No matter how many laws are passed, none will outlaw STUPITY

[/B]

WELL SAID!!!!! CHANCES ARE, THE SAME GRANDPARENTS WHO ALLOW YOUNG CHILDREN TO DRIVE THESE CARTS ARE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO DRIVE GOLF CARTS WITH A LEG OR FOOT HANGING OUTSIDE OF IT. WONDER IF THEY DO THE SAME IN THEIR CAR???? WHAT GUIDANCE WOULD YOU EXPECT STUPID PEOPLE TO PROVIDE THEIR YOUNG???? duh!!!!

[Bill-n-Brillo]

Originally Posted by paulandjean

"Marge the Sarge" MY point,do not hear anyone saying to this person,thats child abuse. Or "GG" I only used my hand on their bottom, that my friend is Child Abuse today. My point "Checkmate"

Spanking your child constitutes child abuse?

Bill

[RichieB]

Originally Posted by Bill-n-Brillo

Spanking your child constitutes child abuse?

Bill

in a public place, to some people, yes.

ridiculous, imo

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by paulandjean

"Marge the Sarge" MY point,do not hear anyone saying to this person,thats child abuse. Or "GG" I only used my hand on their bottom, that my friend is Child Abuse today. My point "Checkmate"

But Paul and Jean..

How did YOU discipline your children? Or perhaps you haven't any and I apologize for asking.

[ceejay]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

But Paul and Jean..

How did YOU discipline your children? Or perhaps you haven't any and I apologize for asking.

Excellent question, Gracie. Inquiring minds want to know.