[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I understand what the wind chill is, but they don't say how much money I can save. I doubt it is very much. I would rather turn the AC down and be comfortable with no wind. Ceiling fans remind me of pool rooms in the 1930's and 1940's when they didn't have AC and guys sat around smoking cigars. Those days are over.

I would also add that the wind chill effect is not recognized or calculated for temperatures above 50 degrees Fahrenheit. So, unless you are cooling your house down to below 50 degrees, the wind chill effect does not even apply.

Wind chill felt on skin has nothing to Do with air temperature but movement of air across skin. Just like when you’re hot and sweetie or get out of shower when A/c on or fan going. So, you don’t agree with science?

[MDBSN62]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Just wondering what brand The Villages is supplying in homes these days. Our 18 year old home has original Hunter fans and they are all still silent when on. Believe me, they get lots of use too.

The Villages does not supply fans with new builds anymore. They leave that up to the new owner.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Wind chill felt on skin has nothing to Do with air temperature but movement of air across skin. Just like when you’re hot and sweetie or get out of shower when A/c on or fan going. So, you don’t agree with science?

I do agree with science, but when I looked up the wind chill effect, which you posted about, I found that it doesn't even apply to temperatures above 50 degrees. But, from a practical perspective, why do I care about using a ceiling fan if I can achieve the same result by just lowering the AC temperature a degree or two. I really don't care if my electric bill goes up a little. I am not going to blow air and dust at myself to save a few dollars on electricity.

[bob47]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I do agree with science, but when I looked up the wind chill effect, which you posted about, I found that it doesn't even apply to temperatures above 50 degrees. But, from a practical perspective, why do I care about using a ceiling fan if I can achieve the same result by just lowering the AC temperature a degree or two. I really don't care if my electric bill goes up a little. I am not going to blow air and dust at myself to save a few dollars on electricity.

The value of the fan is that it now only moves air cooler than body temperature over your skin which it cooling, but also by doing so it increases the evaporation rate of perspiration which is a big cooling effect.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by bob47

The value of the fan is that it now only moves air cooler than body temperature over your skin which it cooling, but also by doing so it increases the evaporation rate of perspiration which is a big cooling effect.

I understand the cooling effect of ceiling fans, but they are only located in houses, and sometimes in low priced restaurants. Most other air conditioned buildings do not have ceiling fans. Do you know how much money you save by using ceiling fans? I don't use them at all, and my electric bill is pretty low already. In my opinion, they are mostly for decoration.

[CybrSage]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I would also add that the wind chill effect is not recognized or calculated for temperatures above 50 degrees Fahrenheit. So, unless you are cooling your house down to below 50 degrees, the wind chill effect does not even apply.

Q = ṁ * Cp * ΔT applies above 50°F just as it applies below it, regardless of your claim it does not.

The wind chill effect is simply an increase in the rate of heat transfer due to an increase in the flow rate of the cooling fluid, air.

This increase in heat transfer causes the body to lose heat at the same rate as if the home is 4 - 8 °F colder than it is.

The room is not actually cooler, but the cooling effect of the moving air makes it feel cooler to your skin at the same temp due to the increased cooling effect the moving air causes.

As for having dust blown at you, I suggest cleaning to remove the dust. Even at the highest speed, dust is not being thrown at me, but I clean my house, including the fans.

[wamley]

1st thing I woukd do is make sure all the attachments are securely fixed, tighten every screw & bolt and see what happens

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by CybrSage

Q = ṁ * Cp * ΔT applies above 50°F just as it applies below it, regardless of your claim it does not.

The wind chill effect is simply an increase in the rate of heat transfer due to an increase in the flow rate of the cooling fluid, air.

This increase in heat transfer causes the body to lose heat at the same rate as if the home is 4 - 8 °F colder than it is.

The room is not actually cooler, but the cooling effect of the moving air makes it feel cooler to your skin at the same temp due to the increased cooling effect the moving air causes.

As for having dust blown at you, I suggest cleaning to remove the dust. Even at the highest speed, dust is not being thrown at me, but I clean my house, including the fans.

I didn't claim anything. I Googled the wind chill effect and looked at the charts. The wind chill effect is only calculated for temperatures below 50 degrees. That is the science as it is actually used. If you look at the wind chill charts, the wind chill effect greatly decreases as the actual temperature increases. So, at 72 degrees, there is practically no wind chill effect at all. But, as a practical matter, how much money are you really saving by using ceiling fans? You can talk about equations all you want, but if you are only saving a few pennies on electricity, what is the point? I would rather just reduce the thermostat setting.

By the way, I dusted once and it just came back. I'm not falling for that again.

[Michael G.]

Also, ceiling fans have nothing to do with cooling/heating a room,
only for the comfort of a person in the room by moving the air.
So, bottom line, if no one is in that room, turn your ceiling fans off.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I didn't claim anything. I Googled the wind chill effect and looked at the charts. The wind chill effect is only calculated for temperatures below 50 degrees. That is the science as it is actually used. If you look at the wind chill charts, the wind chill effect greatly decreases as the actual temperature increases. So, at 72 degrees, there is practically no wind chill effect at all. But, as a practical matter, how much money are you really saving by using ceiling fans? You can talk about equations all you want, but if you are only saving a few pennies on electricity, what is the point? I would rather just reduce the thermostat setting.

By the way, I dusted once and it just came back. I'm not falling for that again.

I took Bath and stink came Back I’m not falling for that again


Weather conditions has nothing to do with fans. To different subjects. Temperature has nothing to do with air flowing across skin. It feels cooler due to evaporation rate. After evaporation (dried out) little different felt on skin. Now dig that hole deeper. you’re fighting loosing battle.

[bob47]

It's kind of amazing that a thread which starts out as a simple request for information on how to eliminate the clicking noise made by a ceiling fan turns into a forum on whether or not a ceiling fan is worthwhile.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by bob47

It's kind of amazing that a thread which starts out as a simple request for information on how to eliminate the clicking noise made by a ceiling fan turns into a forum on whether or not a ceiling fan is worthwhile.

Nah, just a typical day on ToTV...

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I understand the cooling effect of ceiling fans, but they are only located in houses, and sometimes in low priced restaurants. Most other air conditioned buildings do not have ceiling fans. Do you know how much money you save by using ceiling fans? I don't use them at all, and my electric bill is pretty low already. In my opinion, they are mostly for decoration.

I use mine all the time - 24 hrs/day. This allows me to set the thermostat at least three degrees warmer than I otherwise would have set it.

I know it makes the room feel cooler. I believe that by mixing the air it actually keeps the room cooler but I can't prove that.

Running the fan likely costs me less than $1.50 per month.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by bob47

It's kind of amazing that a thread which starts out as a simple request for information on how to eliminate the clicking noise made by a ceiling fan turns into a forum on whether or not a ceiling fan is worthwhile.

Not really they all turn at some point, otherwise it would only be couple posts, good for forum as long don’t stray into the P word. More posts more clicks more advertising. Way the web works.