[DonH57]

Originally Posted by George Bieniaszek

I am still trying to wrap my mind around how a bridge or tunnel would help ease traffic at that location. The main safety issue as I see it are southbound carts trying to merge into traffic by making a left turn to go into the shopping plaza. The other issue are westbound carts on Colony leaving the shopping plaza making a left turn to get under 466A.

Yes, there are southbound carts that need to cross Colony and cross 466A, or vice versa, and a bridge or tunnel would solve that issue.

Just wondering if a one-way, east-bound cart path running parallel to the north side of Colony starting at the cart crossing and ending at the shopping plaza would be a viable option.

Looking at the map I was wondering why instead of a side walk, they did'nt run a multi use path right down that strip you just mentioned on the north side of Colony blvd. Looked to me like that would have been the better option.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by PaPaLarry

I think many people choose to go to Colony, because of their choices!!! Many people like the Publix there, or restaurants, Hair Dressers, Banks, and of course the gas station for both carts and vehicles. and or going to Colony Rec Center. I also don't think business owners in Colony, like the idea of suggesting, people to go to Pinella's Shopping Plaza, instead of Colony. I hope we come to a happy conclusion to this situation!

Originally Posted by DonH57

Looking at the map I was wondering why instead of a side walk, they did'nt run a multi use path right down that strip you just mentioned on the north side of Colony blvd. Looked to me like that would have been the better option.

A good point and a good question. And I apologize for the b**** who made that comment in Cal's, lovey2. I don't understand why some people have such a false sense of entitlement when they reach a certain age.

[justjim]

Originally Posted by DonH57

Looking at the map I was wondering why instead of a side walk, they did'nt run a multi use path right down that strip you just mentioned on the north side of Colony blvd. Looked to me like that would have been the better option.

Answer is mistake in planning and design. You can strive for perfection but even in TV you don't always achieve it. My observation is that there is more use of golf carts than was planned and appropriately designed for the Colony area.

Its busy now but could be even more so depending how the new Fruitland Park Village fits into the equation. Roundabout option or signal light makes sense to me. I don't see a bridge solving the problem and it's the most expensive. Developer is correct with His proposals.

[Lovey2]

Originally Posted by CFrance

A good point and a good question. And I apologize for the b**** who made that comment in Cal's, lovey2. I don't understand why some people have such a false sense of entitlement when they reach a certain age.

Wow...thanks. You didn't need to apologize, but I thank you. I'm learning to mellow in my advancing (haha) years and most of what I think I keep "on the inside"...still, she did sorely test me that day. I can't wait to get older and more outspoken...GOD HELP US ALL THEN!!

[jet10s]

I for one think answer still is to block cars from that end of colony blvd -- bridge too rxpensive

[DonH57]

Originally Posted by justjim

Answer is mistake in planning and design. You can strive for perfection but ev kicking ngin TV you don't always achieve it. My observation is that there is more use of golf carts than was planned and appropriately designed for the Colony area.

Its busy now but could be even more so depending how the new Fruitland Park Village fits into the equation. Roundabout option or signal light makes sense to me. I don't see a bridge solving the problem and it's the most expensive. Developer is correct with His proposals.

I agree and I didn't think about with the coming expansion around fruitland park maybe the developer's trying to work it all together. Just a thought.

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by jet10s

I for one think answer still is to block cars from that end of colony blvd -- bridge too rxpensive

Again I agree. The villages is said to be a golf cart community so I would like to see the car traffic diverted to 466a. As someone previously posted it would be less expensive and more productive to run a experiment by putting up concrete barriers to see if that would alleviate to traffic problem.

[mrdarcy]

Colony Blvd. is only 2 lanes wide. A bridge over a 2 lane road would require a tremendously steep grade going up and coming down. The Morse bridge over 441 is already dangerously steep and it spans over at least 4 lanes (maybe 6, I can't remember). The worst scenario would be to build a $1 million bridge and nobody wants to use it. I agree with Mark Morse--just install traffic signal lights. Cars and carts together abide by traffic signal lights at Lake Sumter Landing and on Rio Grande and on Del Mar. Simple and effective. The human traffic control by Community Watch is actually working pretty well at Colony now. Just automate it. A bridge? Seriously????

[Shirleevee]

Originally Posted by mrdarcy

Colony Blvd. is only 2 lanes wide. A bridge over a 2 lane road would require a tremendously steep grade going up and coming down. The Morse bridge over 441 is already dangerously steep and it spans over at least 4 lanes (maybe 6, I can't remember). The worst scenario would be to build a $1 million bridge and nobody wants to use it. I agree with Mark Morse--just install traffic signal lights. Cars and carts together abide by traffic signal lights at Lake Sumter Landing and on Rio Grande and on Del Mar. Simple and effective. The human traffic control by Community Watch is actually working pretty well at Colony now. Just automate it. A bridge? Seriously????

I agree!

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by Penguin

Again I agree. The villages is said to be a golf cart community so I would like to see the car traffic diverted to 466a. As someone previously posted it would be less expensive and more productive to run a experiment by putting up concrete barriers to see if that would alleviate to traffic problem.

Nowhere in the literature of TV does it say that golf carts take precedence over cars--in fact, the opposite is stated, that in all instances cars have the right of way over golf carts. There are more cars than golf carts in TV. Closing a public street off and effectively making it a golf cart path is going to cause an automobile traffic jam on 466A, not to mention a waste of gasoline and an increase in pollution.

There is a solution that will benefit all and exclude no one. I trust they will find it.

[Shimpy]

I still think the best and cheapest solution is block car traffic from that little stretch of road and put in a golf cart round-a-bout.

[janmcn]

The Project Wide Advisory Committee will be discussing this issue at 9:00am tomorrow (Monday) at Laurel Manor. Read all about the meeting at The Villages on-line news. This might be a good place to discuss all the ideas voiced on this forum.

[janmcn]

The PWAC voted 4-1 this morning (Monday) to go with a traffic signal at this intersection, abandoning their previous idea to build a bridge. The traffic light is expected to cost $250,000. The developer had stated previously he would chip in $100,000 for improvements to this intersection.

Read the details of the meeting at TheVillages on-line news.