[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

How about if you have a policeman with you?

Only if he/she/other is on duty.

[Taltarzac725]

I went grocery shopping today and was wondering why I got some odd looks and realized that my rather new belt has a kind of mind of its own and it must have looked like I was very happy to see someone.


Kind of puts a new spin on the words "packing heat".


I can be kind of absent minded at times.


I will have to pay more attention to my new belt's position.


It is funny though.


I had hoped to add a little levity to this thread. I am glad that no one thought I was carrying a different kind of weapon. No calls to the police that I know of anyway.


And no I did not feel an urge to sing Henry VIII I am as I think codpieces were popular in his court.

[Mrprez]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

How about if you have a policeman with you?

Darn autocorrect. Fixed.

[MrFlorida]

Well sorry so many got their feelings hurt with this new law, but it's now legal to open carry in Florida and your arguments are in vain.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by MrFlorida

Well sorry so many got their feelings hurt with this new law, but it's now legal to open carry in Florida and your arguments are in vain.

Until some tragedies turn the tide which will probably happen sooner rather than later.

[MrFlorida]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Until some tragedies turn the tide which will probably happen sooner rather than later.

It's a done deal, get over it !

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by MrFlorida

It's a done deal, get over it !

Not even death is a done deal. But taxes still seems rather certain. Now where did I put my howitzer?

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Rocksnap

Common sense says follow the DATA. Where guns are legal, especially open carry, crime drops dramatically. Data can be your friend.

This is one of the most ludicrous assertions I've ever seen on ToTV.

You are approximately 20 times safer from "gun violence" in Europe, than you are in the USA. 20 times.

Among major countries, only Mexico, Venezuela & Brazil have a higher gun violence rate than the USA. Among "democratic countries", not one country has a gun violence rate in the same universe as the United States.

The data is all there for everyone to see.

There is one and only one reason, the USA lags behind the world in gun control and that's the NRA and their contribution to political parties and public discourse. Luckily for the USA, their influence (money) is in a free fall. Since the mid-2000's, their revenue is down almost 70% in real dollars. Membership is down even more.

Anyone or any group who asserts a 238 year old document, gives them the "right", is grasping at straws. Every single "right" granted by the US Constitution has been modified or diluted over the years, by a myriad of laws ... and rightfully so.

Common sense is taking over, although it might be a few years before the Kool-Aid drinkers accept that.

The 3 biggest myths in 21st Century USA, are: Guns make people safer, elections are rigged and "loud pipes save lives".

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

This is one of the most ludicrous assertions I've ever seen on ToTV.

You are approximately 20 times safer from "gun violence" in Europe, than you are in the USA. 20 times.

Among major countries, only Mexico, Venezuela & Brazil have a higher gun violence rate than the USA. Among "democratic countries", not one country has a gun violence rate in the same universe as the United States.

The data is all there for everyone to see.

There is one and only one reason, the USA lags behind the world in gun control and that's the NRA and their contribution to political parties and public discourse. Luckily for the USA, their influence (money) is in a free fall. Since the mid-2000's, their revenue is down almost 70% in real dollars. Membership is down even more.

Anyone or any group who asserts a 238 year old document, gives them the "right", is grasping at straws. Every single "right" granted by the US Constitution has been modified or diluted over the years, by a myriad of laws ... and rightfully so.

Common sense is taking over, although it might be a few years before the Kool-Aid drinkers accept that.

The 3 biggest myths in 21st Century USA, are: Guns make people safer, elections are rigged and "loud pipes save lives".

Well said, imho, with one correction. Those enjoying this thread should easily see that "common sense" is a myth. No such thing.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by MrFlorida

Well sorry so many got their feelings hurt with this new law, but it's now legal to open carry in Florida and your arguments are in vain.

My feelings aren't hurt. Just disappointed in our elected officials ... for now. And, as we have seen, laws can be changed. So, for now, you can strap that hogleg to your thigh and walk the streets exuding an air of menace.

[ElDiabloJoe]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

This is one of the most ludicrous assertions I've ever seen on ToTV.

You are approximately 20 times safer from "gun violence" in Europe, than you are in the USA. 20 times.

Among major countries, only Mexico, Venezuela & Brazil have a higher gun violence rate than the USA. Among "democratic countries", not one country has a gun violence rate in the same universe as the United States.

The data is all there for everyone to see.

There is one and only one reason, the USA lags behind the world in gun control and that's the NRA and their contribution to political parties and public discourse. Luckily for the USA, their influence (money) is in a free fall. Since the mid-2000's, their revenue is down almost 70% in real dollars. Membership is down even more.

Anyone or any group who asserts a 238 year old document, gives them the "right", is grasping at straws. Every single "right" granted by the US Constitution has been modified or diluted over the years, by a myriad of laws ... and rightfully so.

Common sense is taking over, although it might be a few years before the Kool-Aid drinkers accept that.

The 3 biggest myths in 21st Century USA, are: Guns make people safer, elections are rigged and "loud pipes save lives".

Sounds like someone would rather be living in that paradise known as Europe.

By the way, the lobbyist organization that has caused the most damage to our country is still going strong: The Association of Trial Lawyers of America.

The ATLA has spent about $120 Million dollars lobbying since 2000 up through mid 2025.
There's a reason there are so many lawsuits, so many restrictions, and so many rich lawyers.

Just a moment...

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe

Sounds like someone would rather be living in that paradise known as Europe.

By the way, the lobbyist organization that has caused the most damage to our country is still going strong: The Association of Trial Lawyers of America.

The ATLA has spent about $120 Million dollars lobbying since 2000 up through mid 2025.
There's a reason there are so many lawsuits, so many restrictions, and so many rich lawyers.

Just a moment...

We do need to get more common sense and equity into our legal system. It does seem to have gone off the rails.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

This is one of the most ludicrous assertions I've ever seen on ToTV.


There is one and only one reason, the USA lags behind the world in gun control and that's the NRA and their contribution to political parties and public discourse. Luckily for the USA, their influence (money) is in a free fall. Since the mid-2000's, their revenue is down almost 70% in real dollars. Membership is down even more.

Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe

The ATLA has spent about $120 Million dollars lobbying since 2000 up through mid 2025.
There's a reason there are so many lawsuits, so many restrictions, and so many rich lawyers.

Just a moment...

Facts matter.

The Trial Lawyers have spent $120 Million since 2000?

The NRA has raised and spent over FIVE BILLION DOLLARS in that period.

Go look at the numbers: Just a moment...

[Whatnext]

Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe

Sounds like someone would rather be living in that paradise known as Europe.

Have you ever lived in, worked in or visited Europe?

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Facts matter.

The Trial Lawyers have spent $120 Million since 2000?

The NRA has raised and spent over FIVE BILLION DOLLARS in that period.

Go look at the numbers: Just a moment...

Love it! I wonder how much of the $5 B the NRA spent was on trial lawyers.