[Pugchief]

Originally Posted by Whatnext

Have you ever lived in, worked in or visited Europe?

Yes. And there's plenty of stabbing and other crime to make up for the lack of guns.

[Pugchief]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

This is one of the most ludicrous assertions I've ever seen on ToTV.

Then you're not spending as much time on here as it seems...

You are approximately 20 times safer from "gun violence" in Europe, than you are in the USA. 20 times.

How about knife and machete violence?

Among "democratic countries", not one country has a gun violence rate in the same universe as the United States.

Canada effectively ended gun ownership a few years back, and the gun violence in Toronto and surrounding areas hasn't slowed down even a little. Because the criminals using them don't follow the law. Imagine that.

The 3 biggest myths in 21st Century USA, are: Guns make people safer, elections are rigged and "loud pipes save lives".

False, false and true.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

The 3 biggest myths in 21st Century USA, are: Guns make people safer, elections are rigged and "loud pipes save lives".

Originally Posted by Pugchief

False, false and true.

If you disputed the 1st one, I get it ... it's political and a huge portion of America doesn't look at the statistics or facts, because they have such a visceral reaction to losing their perceived "Constitutional Right".

They 2nd one? Every independent analysis of USA Elections, conclude that Election Fraud is miniscule. Even Republicans agree ... see attached.

The 3rd one? Every responsible Biker on earth, knows that's simply not true. If it were, Honda's & BMW's would be the most accident prone motorcycles on earth and they're not. Not even close. Both Harley Davidson and Indian Motorcycles have official disavowed the notion that "loud pipes save lives".

Stop saying "loud pipes save lives" - RevZilla

Loud Pipes Do Not Save Lives: The Facts You Need to Know

https://www.hemmings.com/stories/lou...-myth-or-fact/

LOUD PIPES / University research into loud pipes "myth" - Adventure Rider

https://www.indianmotorcycles.net/th...a-myth.337259/

https://www.triumphrat.net/threads/d...nswer.1010228/

[Whatnext]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

Yes. And there's plenty of stabbing and other crime to make up for the lack of guns.

Was asking ElDiabloJoe, and there is more knife crime in US than Europe. Fact.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

Yes. And there's plenty of stabbing and other crime to make up for the lack of guns.

Originally Posted by Whatnext

Was asking ElDiabloJoe, and there is more knife crime in US than Europe. Fact.

Please stop trying to confuse folks with FACTS. This is ToTV, facts don't matter.

From ChatGPT: attached.

[Pugchief]

Then which is it? A gun problem, or a USA problem?

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

Then which is it? A gun problem, or a USA problem?

Neither. It is a warped reading of the 2nd Amendment problem which is about a well-regulated militia. That is a group of people armed to the teeth in terms of 1798 weapons to act as a deterrent to wanna -be Julius Caesars of the 18th Century.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

What, exactly, does a "whack job", look like? How do you know that he/she/it is actually going to pull the trigger? How do you know that the gun is even loaded, or real?
How do you know until said "whack job" actually discharges the weapon and a bullet is actually out of the muzzle that you aren't witnessing a stunt. Do you take him/her/it down first? And how would you feel if you, fueled by fear or anxiety shot first and found you had been too hasty and mistook a harmless YouTube prank and ended a life? And, when you f8re all the other gun towers who didn't know what you were shooting for and decide YOU are the shooter and fire in your direction?

No idea what a "whack job" looks like. I was quoting OBB. Ask her...

To the rest of your post, do you stay up at night inventing these ridiculous fantasy scenarios with no basis in reality?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Mrprez

It isn’t defined under that law. It could be as little as a sip.

Doubtful. Please cite a case where that has happened...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

.08 is NOT A BIG difference.

It's a HUGE difference. One beer is nowhere near 0.08. 3-4 beers is a different story...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Not just me. But feeling somehow so insecure and impotent that you feel compelled to strap that big iron on your hip sounds like psychological issues to me.

Yup, it's a YOU issue. Projecting one's insecurities onto others is most certainly a psychological issue...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

I went grocery shopping today and was wondering why I got some odd looks and realized that my rather new belt has a kind of mind of its own and it must have looked like I was very happy to see someone.


Kind of puts a new spin on the words "packing heat".


I can be kind of absent minded at times.


I will have to pay more attention to my new belt's position.


It is funny though.


I had hoped to add a little levity to this thread. I am glad that no one thought I was carrying a different kind of weapon. No calls to the police that I know of anyway.


And no I did not feel an urge to sing Henry VIII I am as I think codpieces were popular in his court.

You really think someone would call the police if they thought you were concealed carrying?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Until some tragedies turn the tide which will probably happen sooner rather than later.

Wishful thinking?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

Yes. And there's plenty of stabbing and other crime to make up for the lack of guns.

Much of Europe has become very "rapey" of late...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Neither. It is a warped reading of the 2nd Amendment problem which is about a well-regulated militia. That is a group of people armed to the teeth in terms of 1798 weapons to act as a deterrent to wanna -be Julius Caesars of the 18th Century.

And the 1A only counts with Quill & Ink and a hand operated printing press...

The PEOPLE owned CANNONS! They also owned the most sophisticated weapons of their time. Even automatic weapons. Puckle gun - Wikipedia